Yeah, I know it?s easy to bash AT&T for a number of recent issues. However, remember that AT&T supports far more smart phones than any other US based carrier. Network upgrades take time, money, equipment, and advanced engineering. I?m not an apologist; I realize, too, that AT&T should have planned better.
As for all the recent comments about how AT&T could not survive without Apple, I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. (I was researching the origins of the cell phone for a project that I am working on.) It?s quite impressive.
1947: The first Transistor. This was one of the biggest inventions of the 20th century. This is the foundation of every single electronics device.
1954: The first (usable) modern Solar Cell.
1960: The first Communications Satellites.
1969: UNIX and the foundation of the Internet.
1969 The CCD (Charge-Coupled Device that transfers light into electric signals) Every one of the digital images you ? and millions of others ? take every day is made possible thanks to work done by two Bell Labs researchers in the late 1960s. Their ground-breaking work was recently recognized with the Nobel Prize in Physics.
1983: Cell Phones and the Cell Phone Network.
1983: C (1972) and C++. You may not know this, but just about every digital device runs some form of C++ generated code.
1989: HDTV Technology?..and first demonstration to the FCC.
1997: a2b secure digital transmission of Music (compression, authorization). This cleared the way for online music resellers to distribute digital music over the Internet.
There are plenty more out there?..these are just a few as they relate to Apple.
So, yes AT&T is benefitting from Apple?s iPhone??but I would argue that Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s accomplishments as well. AT&T has invented many of the critical components that are at the core of the most popular products that Apple sells today.
Apple?s strength is the ability to integrate and enhance previously developed technologies into desirable consumer products. Here are some examples:
Mac OS X: The foundation of this OS is UNIX??UNIX was created by AT&T.
iPod/iTunes: AT&T developed stereo recordings, compression, secure digital transfers, C++, and of course the transistor. The latest iPods now have CCDs (picture/video)?all developed by AT&T.
iPhone: AT&T invented the Cell Phone Network. Apple?s recent growth (iPhone) is reliant upon this technology that AT&T invented.
So, yes, AT&T is benefiting from the iPhone?.but Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s inventions as well.
I am offering this to inspire intelligent discussion, debate, and comments.
I stand corrected. They're boring, but . . . accomplished.
I understood the commercial the 1st time around. I have a 3G iPhone but in our area we don't get 3G and we don't stand a chance in heck to get it unless AT&T gets their head out of their butt and upgrades the system. No 3G, but I still have to pay for it. A.T.& T. gave me a one-time rebate because of the poor service, but nothing on going.... A "sort-of" acknowledgement that their system in this area is inadequate. AT&T needs to not pay lawyers,but put their money in upgrading the system. This lawsuit only highlights what an embarassment AT&T's 3G system truly is at this point in time and I really don't think that the invention of the phone can be used as a credit to this particular company after it being broken up and then re-invented because they deregulated the whole business.
As for all the recent comments about how AT&T could not survive without Apple, I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. [...]
That would be one impressive list of accomplishments, but the current AT&T isn't the company that did those things. Today's AT&T is SBC renamed, not the AT&T that invented UNIX.
Yeah, I know it?s easy to bash AT&T for a number of recent issues. ..... I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. .....
I am offering this to inspire intelligent discussion, debate, and comments.
Excellent list. Most of it, if I am not mistaken, was from Bell Labs, which used to be a division of ATT. (I think they were responsible for the invention of the laser too.) Unfortunately, however, ATT also gutted Bell Labs over the years.
It also says something about how the innovative greatness that was once the hallmark of the American companies has now been reduced to fighting over scraps of competing ads and tiny market share gains from borrowed technology. No major company - not Microsoft, not Intel, not Cisco, not Apple - seems to to be doing that type of path-breaking, world-changing research anymore.
Really???? Hmmmm, I have a G1 with Tmobile, and I use data apps all the time while talking on the phone. I think you've gotten some bad info.
Your Andriod phone runs on UMTS which supports simultaneous voice and data. Verizon's Android phones will not support this (nor will any of AT&T or T-Mobile's phones when used outside of a 3G coverage area; EDGE/GPRS [2.5/2g] do not support simultaneous use of voice and data either).
T-mobile is GSM, weird 1700Mhz GSM that no-one else on earth uses but GSM nonetheless, hence capable of simultaneous voice/data transmissions to donuts or cupcakes.
Has T-Mobile also licensed the use of the name "Droid" from LucasArts and are they using it in an extensive advertising campaign involving a specific Motorola CDMA handset?
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Really???? Hmmmm, I have a G1 with Tmobile, and I use data apps all the time while talking on the phone. I think you've gotten some bad info.
That would be one impressive list of accomplishments, but the current AT&T isn't the company that did those things. Today's AT&T is SBC renamed, not the AT&T that invented UNIX.
Quite true. But, in fairness, SBC used to be a part of the original ATT that did all this with its Bell Labs division.
It depends if AT&T's study is accurate. According to the article, more than 50% people surveyed thought that the white areas meant there was no coverage at all. I made the same mistake the first time I saw the commercial but since I've seen it a million times since, I got what they meant.
I don't think that's a problem. I saw the notice and I only saw the ad once. So I really have little sympathy for AT&T's argument. There's a certain point that I really can't just excuse the audience's unwillingness to pay attention or investigate the facts for themselves.
Yeah, I know it?s easy to bash AT&T for a number of recent issues. However, remember that AT&T supports far more smart phones than any other US based carrier. Network upgrades take time, money, equipment, and advanced engineering. I?m not an apologist; I realize, too, that AT&T should have planned better.
As for all the recent comments about how AT&T could not survive without Apple, I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. (I was researching the origins of the cell phone for a project that I am working on.) It?s quite impressive.
1947: The first Transistor. This was one of the biggest inventions of the 20th century. This is the foundation of every single electronics device.
1954: The first (usable) modern Solar Cell.
1960: The first Communications Satellites.
1969: UNIX and the foundation of the Internet.
1969 The CCD (Charge-Coupled Device that transfers light into electric signals) Every one of the digital images you ? and millions of others ? take every day is made possible thanks to work done by two Bell Labs researchers in the late 1960s. Their ground-breaking work was recently recognized with the Nobel Prize in Physics.
1983: Cell Phones and the Cell Phone Network.
1983: C (1972) and C++. You may not know this, but just about every digital device runs some form of C++ generated code.
1989: HDTV Technology?..and first demonstration to the FCC.
1997: a2b secure digital transmission of Music (compression, authorization). This cleared the way for online music resellers to distribute digital music over the Internet.
There are plenty more out there?..these are just a few as they relate to Apple.
So, yes AT&T is benefitting from Apple?s iPhone??but I would argue that Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s accomplishments as well. AT&T has invented many of the critical components that are at the core of the most popular products that Apple sells today.
Apple?s strength is the ability to integrate and enhance previously developed technologies into desirable consumer products. Here are some examples:
Mac OS X: The foundation of this OS is UNIX??UNIX was created by AT&T.
iPod/iTunes: AT&T developed stereo recordings, compression, secure digital transfers, C++, and of course the transistor. The latest iPods now have CCDs (picture/video)?all developed by AT&T.
iPhone: AT&T invented the Cell Phone Network. Apple?s recent growth (iPhone) is reliant upon this technology that AT&T invented.
So, yes, AT&T is benefiting from the iPhone?.but Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s inventions as well.
I am offering this to inspire intelligent discussion, debate, and comments.
sadly the ATT you speak of went cold all ties broken dead about 5 years ago
THERE IS NO connection betwixt the old att and the new att
none
great history
i love your timeline
my son whose 9 will read this and we will discuss some things we find from it
It depends if AT&T's study is accurate. According to the article, more than 50% people surveyed thought that the white areas meant there was no coverage at all. I made the same mistake the first time I saw the commercial but since I've seen it a million times since, I got what they meant.
Their survey results are meaningless unless you know who, where, and how they conducted their survey. You can basically get any results you want by simply asking the questions in the right way. For example, "Verizon's commercial shows a map of ATT coverage area that shows no coverage in large areas of the US. Will you have service in those areas?" A survey constructed in the right way can be far more misleading than Verizon's commercial.
Quite true. But, in fairness, SBC used to be a part of the original ATT that did all this with its Bell Labs division.
Yes, but not a part that had anything to do with Bell Labs. SBC, today's AT&T, had essentially nothing to do with any of the things Bell Labs accomplished.
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Yeah, I know it?s easy to bash AT&T for a number of recent issues. However, remember that AT&T supports far more smart phones than any other US based carrier. Network upgrades take time, money, equipment, and advanced engineering. I?m not an apologist; I realize, too, that AT&T should have planned better.
As for all the recent comments about how AT&T could not survive without Apple, I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. (I was researching the origins of the cell phone for a project that I am working on.) It?s quite impressive.
http://www.corp.att.com/attlabs/reputation/timeline/
Some highlights:
1876: The first telephone.
1924: The first Electrical Sound Recordings.
1926: The first Sound in Motion Pictures.
1939: The first Digital Computer.
1946: The first Mobile Call.
1947: The first Transistor. This was one of the biggest inventions of the 20th century. This is the foundation of every single electronics device.
1954: The first (usable) modern Solar Cell.
1960: The first Communications Satellites.
1969: UNIX and the foundation of the Internet.
1969 The CCD (Charge-Coupled Device that transfers light into electric signals) Every one of the digital images you ? and millions of others ? take every day is made possible thanks to work done by two Bell Labs researchers in the late 1960s. Their ground-breaking work was recently recognized with the Nobel Prize in Physics.
1983: Cell Phones and the Cell Phone Network.
1983: C (1972) and C++. You may not know this, but just about every digital device runs some form of C++ generated code.
1989: HDTV Technology?..and first demonstration to the FCC.
1997: a2b secure digital transmission of Music (compression, authorization). This cleared the way for online music resellers to distribute digital music over the Internet.
There are plenty more out there?..these are just a few as they relate to Apple.
So, yes AT&T is benefitting from Apple?s iPhone??but I would argue that Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s accomplishments as well. AT&T has invented many of the critical components that are at the core of the most popular products that Apple sells today.
Apple?s strength is the ability to integrate and enhance previously developed technologies into desirable consumer products. Here are some examples:
Mac OS X: The foundation of this OS is UNIX??UNIX was created by AT&T.
iPod/iTunes: AT&T developed stereo recordings, compression, secure digital transfers, C++, and of course the transistor. The latest iPods now have CCDs (picture/video)?all developed by AT&T.
iPhone: AT&T invented the Cell Phone Network. Apple?s recent growth (iPhone) is reliant upon this technology that AT&T invented.
So, yes, AT&T is benefiting from the iPhone?.but Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s inventions as well.
I am offering this to inspire intelligent discussion, debate, and comments.
I stand corrected. They're boring, but . . . accomplished.
I wonder if anyone will take the Droid multitasking statement to task.
No simultaneous voice and data = no multitasking like the iPhone is capable of.
Oh, the irony of all ironies.
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As for all the recent comments about how AT&T could not survive without Apple, I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. [...]
That would be one impressive list of accomplishments, but the current AT&T isn't the company that did those things. Today's AT&T is SBC renamed, not the AT&T that invented UNIX.
I wonder if anyone will take the Droid multitasking statement to task.
No simultaneous voice and data = no multitasking like the iPhone is capable of.
Really???? Hmmmm, I have a G1 with Tmobile, and I use data apps all the time while talking on the phone. I think you've gotten some bad info.
Yeah, I know it?s easy to bash AT&T for a number of recent issues. ..... I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. .....
I am offering this to inspire intelligent discussion, debate, and comments.
Excellent list. Most of it, if I am not mistaken, was from Bell Labs, which used to be a division of ATT. (I think they were responsible for the invention of the laser too.) Unfortunately, however, ATT also gutted Bell Labs over the years.
It also says something about how the innovative greatness that was once the hallmark of the American companies has now been reduced to fighting over scraps of competing ads and tiny market share gains from borrowed technology. No major company - not Microsoft, not Intel, not Cisco, not Apple - seems to to be doing that type of path-breaking, world-changing research anymore.
I have to admit, I rather like the "there's a map for that" ad's.
I've no idea if they are true, but I think it's a smart idea.
yea its a great iphone ad
all i think of is the app store maps
Really???? Hmmmm, I have a G1 with Tmobile, and I use data apps all the time while talking on the phone. I think you've gotten some bad info.
Your Andriod phone runs on UMTS which supports simultaneous voice and data. Verizon's Android phones will not support this (nor will any of AT&T or T-Mobile's phones when used outside of a 3G coverage area; EDGE/GPRS [2.5/2g] do not support simultaneous use of voice and data either).
Has T-Mobile also licensed the use of the name "Droid" from LucasArts and are they using it in an extensive advertising campaign involving a specific Motorola CDMA handset?
Really???? Hmmmm, I have a G1 with Tmobile, and I use data apps all the time while talking on the phone. I think you've gotten some bad info.
That would be one impressive list of accomplishments, but the current AT&T isn't the company that did those things. Today's AT&T is SBC renamed, not the AT&T that invented UNIX.
Quite true. But, in fairness, SBC used to be a part of the original ATT that did all this with its Bell Labs division.
It depends if AT&T's study is accurate. According to the article, more than 50% people surveyed thought that the white areas meant there was no coverage at all. I made the same mistake the first time I saw the commercial but since I've seen it a million times since, I got what they meant.
I don't think that's a problem. I saw the notice and I only saw the ad once. So I really have little sympathy for AT&T's argument. There's a certain point that I really can't just excuse the audience's unwillingness to pay attention or investigate the facts for themselves.
Yeah, I know it?s easy to bash AT&T for a number of recent issues. However, remember that AT&T supports far more smart phones than any other US based carrier. Network upgrades take time, money, equipment, and advanced engineering. I?m not an apologist; I realize, too, that AT&T should have planned better.
As for all the recent comments about how AT&T could not survive without Apple, I recently ran across this website that show cased all of the accomplishments and inventions by AT&T over the last 130 years. (I was researching the origins of the cell phone for a project that I am working on.) It?s quite impressive.
http://www.corp.att.com/attlabs/reputation/timeline/
Some highlights:
1876: The first telephone.
1924: The first Electrical Sound Recordings.
1926: The first Sound in Motion Pictures.
1939: The first Digital Computer.
1946: The first Mobile Call.
1947: The first Transistor. This was one of the biggest inventions of the 20th century. This is the foundation of every single electronics device.
1954: The first (usable) modern Solar Cell.
1960: The first Communications Satellites.
1969: UNIX and the foundation of the Internet.
1969 The CCD (Charge-Coupled Device that transfers light into electric signals) Every one of the digital images you ? and millions of others ? take every day is made possible thanks to work done by two Bell Labs researchers in the late 1960s. Their ground-breaking work was recently recognized with the Nobel Prize in Physics.
1983: Cell Phones and the Cell Phone Network.
1983: C (1972) and C++. You may not know this, but just about every digital device runs some form of C++ generated code.
1989: HDTV Technology?..and first demonstration to the FCC.
1997: a2b secure digital transmission of Music (compression, authorization). This cleared the way for online music resellers to distribute digital music over the Internet.
There are plenty more out there?..these are just a few as they relate to Apple.
So, yes AT&T is benefitting from Apple?s iPhone??but I would argue that Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s accomplishments as well. AT&T has invented many of the critical components that are at the core of the most popular products that Apple sells today.
Apple?s strength is the ability to integrate and enhance previously developed technologies into desirable consumer products. Here are some examples:
Mac OS X: The foundation of this OS is UNIX??UNIX was created by AT&T.
iPod/iTunes: AT&T developed stereo recordings, compression, secure digital transfers, C++, and of course the transistor. The latest iPods now have CCDs (picture/video)?all developed by AT&T.
iPhone: AT&T invented the Cell Phone Network. Apple?s recent growth (iPhone) is reliant upon this technology that AT&T invented.
So, yes, AT&T is benefiting from the iPhone?.but Apple has also benefitted from AT&T?s inventions as well.
I am offering this to inspire intelligent discussion, debate, and comments.
sadly the ATT you speak of went cold all ties broken dead about 5 years ago
THERE IS NO connection betwixt the old att and the new att
none
great history
i love your timeline
my son whose
so thank you dude
peace 9
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A great part of ma bell was bell labs whom invented all the stuff you speak of and tons more
as a child i watched each new invention bell labs made with great interest . There will never be a bell lab again
sad i am to say this .
back then AN ATT made phone lasted 20 YRS
It depends if AT&T's study is accurate. According to the article, more than 50% people surveyed thought that the white areas meant there was no coverage at all. I made the same mistake the first time I saw the commercial but since I've seen it a million times since, I got what they meant.
Their survey results are meaningless unless you know who, where, and how they conducted their survey. You can basically get any results you want by simply asking the questions in the right way. For example, "Verizon's commercial shows a map of ATT coverage area that shows no coverage in large areas of the US. Will you have service in those areas?" A survey constructed in the right way can be far more misleading than Verizon's commercial.
edit: pipped by everyone.
and every one is pipped by you!!
Quite true. But, in fairness, SBC used to be a part of the original ATT that did all this with its Bell Labs division.
I would suggest that the intellectual heritage is gone, and so is Bell Labs, they've been spun off about a decade ago, and squandered too.
Quite true. But, in fairness, SBC used to be a part of the original ATT that did all this with its Bell Labs division.
Yes, but not a part that had anything to do with Bell Labs. SBC, today's AT&T, had essentially nothing to do with any of the things Bell Labs accomplished.
I would suggest that the intellectual heritage is gone, and so is Bell Labs, they've been spun off about a decade ago, and squandered too.
See post #28, above.