Publisher Hearst releases plans for digital magazine, newspaper service

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    "I don't spar with unworthy competitors"? Comic book guy, is that you?



    You’re always have funny and clever posts but this post made me bust a gut.





    (Comic Life is about as close to “photoshopping” as I like to go, as I’m capable of going)
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  • Reply 22 of 31
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    It's not worth my time.



    man, you are one arrogant bastard. its people like you that are going to muck up what could be a great opportunity for publishers and apple alike. thank you for bestowing us with your wisdom.
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  • Reply 23 of 31
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    Publisher's made it VERY clear that they would not let Apple control the situation. They are working together for a media that is platform independent and they will control the distribution just like they have for the last 100 years.



    It may be a new era but pulishers learned a lot from Apple and will make sure it is platform independent media that can be accessed from both touch e-readers as well as generic browsers on every platform.



    iDon't think the Apple Tablet is going to have a chance unless it's $300 and not tied to any carrier.



    Agreed. All the publishers have to do is look at music and iTunes. That's probably why they have been saying "no thanks" as they don't want their content to be tied down to an expensive piece of closed ended hardware. No way.



    H will make sure it's open source.



    I mean geez. Look at ABC LOST. Youncan go to the website, watch maybe 4 :15 to :30 interactive commercials or mute them and watch seasons 1, seasons 2, seasons 3, seasons 4 and most of five for free OR go to itunes and pay $1.99' to $2.99 per episode that you can't even share. Thus no DVD on apple tv and no flash on iPhone





    Inse this as big and if educational books come out think how big microsofts courier could become. It's all about pen ended systems. Not closed
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  • Reply 24 of 31
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    Time Inc and Hearst are Billion dollar corporations. Do you honestly believe that with 50 magazines at least between the two of them and who knows else is in on the game that they haven't planned this out.



    Neither company is going to go it with their own media player. With a tablet coming out every other day they don't have to. Apple may have a tablet but they will have to stands in line to get distribution rights just like ever other vendor.



    Apple knows how to make money from digital distribution and they have the infrastructure already in place. These traditional publishers are like dinosaurs at a trackmeet--unable to compete, just standing around waiting to die. In the end, money talks and bullshit walks.



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    Any device that has a Google OS platform has an advantage. No/Low OS cost and it's already compatible with every publishers plans.



    In many of your posts you like to point out how the rumored Apple tablet doesn't exist. I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that the Google OS also doesn't exist as a shippable product ... and yet you are already proclaiming that it "has an advantage"??
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  • Reply 25 of 31
    nasseraenasserae Posts: 3,167member
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    Agreed. All the publishers have to do is look at music and iTunes. That's probably why they have been saying "no thanks" as they don't want their content to be tied down to an expensive piece of closed ended hardware. No way.



    When did they say "No Thanks"?! and who said it will be tied to one hardware? With the success of iTunes and the App Store I don't think they will pass. Beside, NYTimes is offered on Amazon Kindle. Does that mean they are locked in to that specific platform?



    I don't know why some here think just because it is on AI then everyone here believe it will be on Mac only. They are proposing a concept that should be platform independent. For this to work the publishers need to supply the contents and let others (Apple, Google, MS... etc) develop the end user software. The catch here is that they will need to agree on a standard.
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  • Reply 26 of 31
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,362member
    I think now that the industry understands that Apple is just around the corner with their take on "e-reading" they feel they must launch good alternatives before Apple does, so they stand a fair chance of competing.



    If it later shows that everyone was going for "e-reading" and Apple went for "full multimedia distribution"... I guess Apple is gonna come out pretty strong here.
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  • Reply 27 of 31
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Never again will any media let Apple (or anyone else for that matter) get away with like Apple did in the music business. The music/iPod model has taught them all a big lesson. First the movie/TV business thumbed their nose at Apple and now the publishing world. Interesting how things evolve.
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  • Reply 28 of 31
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member
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    Never again will any media let Apple (or anyone else for that matter) get away with like Apple did in the music business. The music/iPod model has taught them all a big lesson. First the movie/TV business thumbed their nose at Apple and now the publishing world. Interesting how things evolve.



    The publishing industry is on the verge of bankruptcy, and you think they're the ones calling the shots against Apple?

    Apple's throwing them a lifeline and the'll grab it just the way the recording dinos did.
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  • Reply 29 of 31
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    The publishing industry is on the verge of bankruptcy, and you think they're the ones calling the shots against Apple?

    Apple's throwing them a lifeline and the'll grab it just the way the recording dinos did.



    It sure seems that way. I?ve seen nothing viable coming from these companies in years. AgnusYoung, whom I think may be NonVendorFan/SeaHawkFan, claims they have banded together like Voltron some 5 years ago and have some grande plan in the works. We?ve seen nothing but vaporware and we?ve heard nothing about it.



    On top of that they don?t have the ability to do what it takes without some serious handholding from a company that does and we keep seeing periodicals shutting down door every month even while offering more outrageous subscription deals. They really are in a much worse situation than the RIAA was back in 2003. The music industry had a decline, but it?s one thing to be on the chopping block and quite another to already be in the grinder.



    Without a real company with technical know how of making HW, SW and integrating services it?s simply unlikely they can figure it out for themselves. Apple?s open format for iTunes LP and Extras looked even more likely that it was first conceived of for publishers.
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  • Reply 30 of 31
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    Put it this way. If the publisher's are wrong then Apple has no chance at a Tablet.



    If they are right then Apple will ride along with every other vendor and take what ever percentage the publishers are willing to give the vendors as the music industry has. Given the model of the iTunes store not making money (or very little) it doesn't look compelling for Apple in either event.



    If the success of a tablet depended on magazines, Apple wouldn't bring a tablet to market. Even if the major magazine and newspaper publishers all went out of business, a tablet would still be great for internet, TV shows, books, etc.



    That's why Apple has so much market power with the publishers and can dictate how the format, pricing, distribution, etc., on the tablet will work.



    Apple won't be the only distribution outlet for print media, but go ask the record labels what happens when you try to go around them.
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  • Reply 31 of 31
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    Apple doesn't make money from the iTunes and if they do very little given the financial exposure they have to keep it running (speaking in terms of music apps).



    Publishers already know it's a mess. You search for a song and get 44 apps that happen to have the same word you were looking for.



    Add Digital Print to the mess that iTunes already is. Publishers don't want somebody searching for Tom Brady and getting hits for the Brady Bunch music.

    If publishers want people to search for magazine content they don't want Apps, Music or any other content to come up on their hit list.



    It's very simple, it's going to happen, and will Apple make iTunes a worthy distribution Model that publishers will accept. Amazon, Google & Bing (Microsoft) will and know how big this is.



    Apple can be arrogant but I would guess they will play the game along with the other players.



    Wow, that's complete nonsense.



    1. Apple makes money on iTunes. Peter Oppenheimer has been pretty specific about that in the earnings calls.



    2. The publishers want to be on Apple's platforms. They would like to have it on their terms, but you're 100 percent dead wrong if you think the major publishers are not going to get on board with an Apple tablet.
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