B & B up for Nobel Peace prize

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Bush and Blair. Can you share a Nobel prize?
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  • Reply 1 of 32
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    well, Rabin, Peres and Arafat shared the price... and a lot of others too... In fact its very common...
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  • Reply 2 of 32
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    I think Bush should get it.



    He has done more than anyone in history to reduce nuclear arms, after all.
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  • Reply 3 of 32
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    They're nominated for a Peace prize for having a war against Afghanistan?
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  • Reply 4 of 32
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Part of it may be that, BRussell, yes. Ousting an oppressive regime and replacing it with a less oppressive democratic system is generally smiled upon.



    And so is cutting the world's largest nuclear arsenal from around 7,000 to less than 1,700. That's usually a good thing, so far as peace is concerned.



    Oh wait, you were trying to say that's a bad thing?



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  • Reply 5 of 32
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    I think that giving this prize to rudolph Guliani and the architect of the twins , will be a fantastic symbol. The Nobel prize will be given to The city of New york in the name of memory of the victims and the loss of monumental symbol of USA the twins towers, who where really astonishing.

    For me : if you say Skycrepers , i will say New - York.
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  • Reply 5 of 32
    sebseb Posts: 676member
    They gave it to Kissinger right at the end of the Vietnam War.



    I saw a cool documentary recently, where they interviewed many of the Nobel Committee. It seems they often give the prize to those who they also wish were a little more peaceful.



    Like Yasser Arafat when he got it - although I still don't get that one.



    Oh well, Bush is still planning to build his 'peace laser' so maybe he deserves it.
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  • Reply 7 of 32
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Like Yasser Arafat when he got it - although I still don't get that one.



    Yeah i don't get that one either. Maybe they can revoke it?
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  • Reply 8 of 32
    g4dudeg4dude Posts: 1,016member
    When I read the title, I thought you were talking about those two Star Trek morons. I think Bush and Blair should win
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  • Reply 9 of 32
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>Like Yasser Arafat when he got it - although I still don't get that one.



    Yeah i don't get that one either. Maybe they can revoke it?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Why should they? Because Bush said Arafat is a terrorist? "Hey they are not with us. Go bomb Oslo" <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    BTW. Harald Tom Nesvik nominated B&B (all members of the Norweigian parliament can nominate). It is not the most flattering thing in the world to be nominated by a member of Fremskrittspartiet. Like their danish sister party its clearly racist (the founder of the danish Fremskridtsparti said just four month ago that ALL immigrants (also political refugees) from Islamic countries is send by Iran to kill all danes. They all wait for the signal and then they will get their knives and cut the throats on all danes and one of their candidates to the last election denied the killing of jews during WWII). Even if B&B in some freak accident got the Nobel prize they should refuse to accept it because of who nominated them.
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  • Reply 10 of 32
    tmptmp Posts: 601member
    The architect who designed the twin towers is dead. His name was Minoru Yamasaki, and he also designed the twin towers in Century City in LA



    <a href="http://www.microla.com/ltpages/century.htm"; target="_blank">Century City</a>
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  • Reply 11 of 32
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    [quote]Originally posted by Anders:

    <strong>



    Why should they? Because Bush said Arafat is a terrorist? "Hey they are not with us. Go bomb Oslo" <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    They should because Arafat is a terrorist.
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  • Reply 12 of 32
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    bush, blair or guliani will never get the peace price - period.
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  • Reply 13 of 32
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>Part of it may be that, BRussell, yes. Ousting an oppressive regime and replacing it with a less oppressive democratic system is generally smiled upon.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Hitting back against bin Laden was necessary, but it's ludicrous to suggest it deserves a Peace prize.
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  • Reply 14 of 32
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Hey, if a nuclear scientist can get one for saying "I'm sorry" why doesn't the man who has done more than anyone in history in regards nuclear disarmament deserve one?



    Other than the fact that you dislike him, of course.
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  • Reply 15 of 32
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    The only concrete thing Bush has done so far regarding nuclear weapons is abandon one of the cornerstone nuclear-era treaties. Has even a single nuclear weapon been disarmed under Bush?



    And what does this have to do with nuclear disarmament anyway? The nomination had nothing to do with that.
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  • Reply 16 of 32
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Get real. Someone working up tension by dividing the world in two ("Those with us bla bla") and putting stigmas on others ("axle of evil") should NEVER be considered for a Nobel prize.

    This is truly a strange thread that would never have started if it haven´t been for a attention seeking member of the norwegian parliarment for a racist party.

    People can agree or disagree on the actions taken under the label "war on terrorism" but noone in the nobel comity will take such a suggestion seriously.



    Edit: NEVER instead of EVER.



    [ 02-05-2002: Message edited by: Anders ]</p>
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  • Reply 17 of 32
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    [quote]Originally posted by powerdoc:

    <strong>I think that giving this prize to rudolph Guliani and the architect of the twins , will be a fantastic symbol.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Oh please. What have Guliani and Minoru Yamasaki done for peace? Guliani has done a great job for his citizents but lets keep things seperate.
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  • Reply 18 of 32
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [quote]Originally posted by BRussell:

    <strong>The only concrete thing Bush has done so far regarding nuclear weapons is abandon one of the cornerstone nuclear-era treaties. Has even a single nuclear weapon been disarmed under Bush?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <a href="http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1655000/1655049.stm"; target="_blank">http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1655000/1655049.stm</a>;



    Give it a little time.



    [quote]<strong>And what does this have to do with nuclear disarmament anyway? The nomination had nothing to do with that.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Just an example of how, maybe, despite your own bias it isn't such a foolish idea to nominate him.
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  • Reply 19 of 32
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Anders:

    <strong>



    Oh please. What have Guliani and Minoru Yamasaki done for peace? Guliani has done a great job for his citizents but lets keep things seperate.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    he certainly helped create peace of the attacks in NYC and did a great job and went beyond what he was ever expected to do.



    He deserves i just as much as the others named in this thread... not like that is saying much.. but still
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  • Reply 20 of 32
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>Just an example of how, maybe, despite your own bias it isn't such a foolish idea to nominate him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Hmm, you think George W. Bush should get a Nobel Peace prize and I don't, and I'm the one who's biased?

    :eek:
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