The expensive stuff from Apple that I've ever received via UPS or FedEx had to have a signature.
If it's such an issue, why can't you bring your own?
Back in the day, I rode BART from Market St. to Oakland, then took a bus to Alameda to get home from work. I might've brought home an iMac type box at 5:00 PM but not at 8:30 PM. A little discretion goes a long way. If you are that concerned with your personal safety, then take ownership of it. Get a friend to go along. Take a cab. Etc. etc. etc.
For some reason I can't really picture burglars following people coming out of a Microsoft Store.
The reason being, there is a much much better profit in selling overpriced stolen goods.
Nothing at all to do with what OS they run.
Why go through the effort of stealing 2-3 windows machines when you can just steal one imac, and if you can nail a mac pro..... super duper overpriced you can retire for the month! These guys are smart!!!
The same thing has been happening in Atlanta. Robbers will follow a person who bought a new mac and steal it from them when they are either at a stoplight or when they leave their vehicle.
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Another reason to buy online.
The only problem is some of the shipping companies are stupid enough to simply leave your product on the front door or give to a friendly "neighbor" and then you are left with the same headaches.
I agreed with you until that last line. It's political charged and wrong when faced with the economic facts. The problem has stretched back many years before as I will show you.
When the Congress switched Democratic, in 2005 saw the two government sponsored organizations (GSE's) Freddie and Fannie mandated to increase their sub-prime exposure when they wasn't exposed before.
BZZZZ WRONG. The 108th (January 3, 2003 ? January 3, 2005) and 109th (January 3, 2005 ? January 3, 2007) were both REPUBLICAN
Even the The 108th Congress (January 3, 2001 ? January 3, 2003) was split between Republican (House) and Democrat (Senate June 6, 2001 to end) and the last Congress before the current one that was controlled by the Demoncrats was the 103rd (January 3, 1993 ? January 3, 1995)
If you want to spout political drivel at least get the basic facts right.
The cold weather must be really getting to some of you!
Hummers, Mossad, Political discourse, Jailhouse experiences, Tenderloin(s) , Brown-paper bags... and much, much more... all in the same topic. You could make a Jason Statham movie from this thread!
May I suggest (to a select few) that you should put your head in a microwave and "*reboot" your brain... that is if it's still attached and not in a bucket of saline and formaldehyde.
*Sorry, I meant "Restart...", naturally with "Cmd-Opt-P-R".
I can see it now: Jason Statham starring in.... "Prison Food!"
The current employment amount is leveling out to almost the same level as the last recession under Clinton, so something very bad is occurring, we are not creating new jobs, most likely China is to blame. Bush gave us a temporary boost, but now that's all gone.
Heads need to roll in Congress and we need a government that's more friendly to business that puts people to work and rebuilds America, we are done playing socialist now.
The above two statements, to me at least, appear to be at odds with one another. You say we are not creating new jobs and that China is to blame. Perhaps we all should look in the mirror and ask why we all demand the cheapest price possible with hardly any thought to quality, hence the rush to cheap net books. Is there a willingness to pay more for "a made in America" approach? I think not.
"Bush gave us a temporary boost, but now that's all gone". Well, if you look at the government debt when Bush came in and at the same debt when he left it makes that statement look foolish, to say the least. Some boost.
"we are done playing socialist now" ... Was the financial system "playing socialist" with the huge corporate bonuses even as their companies were having to receive bailouts? Are they playing socialist now as they attempt to repeat that situation all over again? There is lots of blame to go around and it may be easier to blame whatever political party you don't like .... but that approach hardly ever identifies the correct "villain".
Guys, there is a PoliticalOutsider forum expressly created (with special rules) so you can argue this political crap until you are blue in the face. But it doesn't belong here.
Point taken, but not completely accurate. Ownership is not ONLY determined in court. If you have legal proof of ownership and the other party does not, case closed. If I have a pink slip and purchase receipt with my VIN for my stolen Apple Car, I can file a stolen Apple Car report to the police. That's all the proof I need. Apple has the ability and does track product ownership by serial number (and they are not as easily filed off).
If I made the effort to send a police report to Apple regarding a stolen MAC, I wouldn't expect Apple to prosecute someone that showed up with a stolen MAC (or other track-able product), but I would love to get notified and have the option to call the police and send them on over to the Apple store. There are a lot of ways to track and verify ownership, and a computer is very easy to track these days. And you are right, the world is not a simply place, we can only suggest ideas to improve it.
I should have been more clear in stating that ownership can only be legally determined in court when it is contested.
Apple does not track ownership. Apple tracks warranty and has profiles associated with warranties. Apple uses registration data not for ownership determination but rather marketing data. Apple has no idea who sold what to whom and when or would get involved with proof of ownership. That would be a mess.
AT&T tracks accounts and when an account is confirmed that account may have the account phone number deactivated, etc.
Ultimately consumers have the option to protect their purchases with everything from products like MobileMe's Find My iPhone/iPod or Lo Jack for laptops... as well as being conscious of their surroundings, not leaving computers in their car (seriously?), and generally making sure their property is safe and secure.
sflocal.....very wise suggestions and comment. I'm in SF 2-3 times a year, and have only been in that store a few times, and mainly was during the old Macworld. Never have purchased anything expensive, but if I had, I would have had it delivered to the Hotel, or to my house. We did purchase an iPod touch there once, but eschewed the bag, and stuck it in my wife's bag.
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The expensive stuff from Apple that I've ever received via UPS or FedEx had to have a signature.
If it's such an issue, why can't you bring your own?
Back in the day, I rode BART from Market St. to Oakland, then took a bus to Alameda to get home from work. I might've brought home an iMac type box at 5:00 PM but not at 8:30 PM. A little discretion goes a long way. If you are that concerned with your personal safety, then take ownership of it. Get a friend to go along. Take a cab. Etc. etc. etc.
NYC feels so much safer these days
sad
For some reason I can't really picture burglars following people coming out of a Microsoft Store.
The reason being, there is a much much better profit in selling overpriced stolen goods.
Nothing at all to do with what OS they run.
Why go through the effort of stealing 2-3 windows machines when you can just steal one imac, and if you can nail a mac pro..... super duper overpriced you can retire for the month! These guys are smart!!!
If I was buying a MAC or anything of value...
A Mac is a computer, MAC is a cosmetic company or a networking term used to identify individual network card addresses.
The same thing has been happening in Atlanta. Robbers will follow a person who bought a new mac and steal it from them when they are either at a stoplight or when they leave their vehicle.
Another reason to buy online.
The only problem is some of the shipping companies are stupid enough to simply leave your product on the front door or give to a friendly "neighbor" and then you are left with the same headaches.
I agreed with you until that last line. It's political charged and wrong when faced with the economic facts. The problem has stretched back many years before as I will show you.
When the Congress switched Democratic, in 2005 saw the two government sponsored organizations (GSE's) Freddie and Fannie mandated to increase their sub-prime exposure when they wasn't exposed before.
BZZZZ WRONG.
Even the The 108th Congress (January 3, 2001 ? January 3, 2003) was split between Republican (House) and Democrat (Senate June 6, 2001 to end) and the last Congress before the current one that was controlled by the Demoncrats was the 103rd (January 3, 1993 ? January 3, 1995)
If you want to spout political drivel at least get the basic facts right.
...the mall is right next door to the local police prescient station.
This solves the whole thread! We just need more police who can see the future
and get to where the crimes are about to be committed . . .
The cold weather must be really getting to some of you!
May I suggest (to a select few) that you should put your head in a microwave and "*reboot" your brain... that is if it's still attached and not in a bucket of saline and formaldehyde.
*Sorry, I meant "Restart...", naturally with "Cmd-Opt-P-R".
The current employment amount is leveling out to almost the same level as the last recession under Clinton, so something very bad is occurring, we are not creating new jobs, most likely China is to blame. Bush gave us a temporary boost, but now that's all gone.
Heads need to roll in Congress and we need a government that's more friendly to business that puts people to work and rebuilds America, we are done playing socialist now.
The above two statements, to me at least, appear to be at odds with one another. You say we are not creating new jobs and that China is to blame. Perhaps we all should look in the mirror and ask why we all demand the cheapest price possible with hardly any thought to quality, hence the rush to cheap net books. Is there a willingness to pay more for "a made in America" approach? I think not.
"Bush gave us a temporary boost, but now that's all gone". Well, if you look at the government debt when Bush came in and at the same debt when he left it makes that statement look foolish, to say the least. Some boost.
"we are done playing socialist now" ... Was the financial system "playing socialist" with the huge corporate bonuses even as their companies were having to receive bailouts? Are they playing socialist now as they attempt to repeat that situation all over again? There is lots of blame to go around and it may be easier to blame whatever political party you don't like .... but that approach hardly ever identifies the correct "villain".
Point taken, but not completely accurate. Ownership is not ONLY determined in court. If you have legal proof of ownership and the other party does not, case closed. If I have a pink slip and purchase receipt with my VIN for my stolen Apple Car, I can file a stolen Apple Car report to the police. That's all the proof I need. Apple has the ability and does track product ownership by serial number (and they are not as easily filed off).
If I made the effort to send a police report to Apple regarding a stolen MAC, I wouldn't expect Apple to prosecute someone that showed up with a stolen MAC (or other track-able product), but I would love to get notified and have the option to call the police and send them on over to the Apple store. There are a lot of ways to track and verify ownership, and a computer is very easy to track these days. And you are right, the world is not a simply place, we can only suggest ideas to improve it.
I should have been more clear in stating that ownership can only be legally determined in court when it is contested.
Apple does not track ownership. Apple tracks warranty and has profiles associated with warranties. Apple uses registration data not for ownership determination but rather marketing data. Apple has no idea who sold what to whom and when or would get involved with proof of ownership. That would be a mess.
AT&T tracks accounts and when an account is confirmed that account may have the account phone number deactivated, etc.
Ultimately consumers have the option to protect their purchases with everything from products like MobileMe's Find My iPhone/iPod or Lo Jack for laptops... as well as being conscious of their surroundings, not leaving computers in their car (seriously?), and generally making sure their property is safe and secure.