Is it just me who would find it hilarious if Steve came on stage and just said something like, "we've re-designed our website" then wandered off!
I missed this on my first go-over of the thread -- yeah, that would be hysterical!
I could just picture him walking from one side of the stage to the other, glancing out at the crowd and saying, "Oh, we've re-designed our website!" as he exits.
I'm hoping that they have a painting-style graphics program to go with (or without) the tablet...
Nobody really knows what they want or need, except Steve. But when Apple comes out with a new product, everybody in the world realizes that they can't live without one.
You're probably being sarcastic, but it's actually true that people don't realise how useful something can be until they use it. If it's close enough to what they understand then they can imagine using it and make a pretty good guess at whether it's useful - but if it redefines things, people need to see it before they get it. As an example - my father doesn't want a TiVo and the reason he gives is that he doesn't use his old VCR - he equates them together and then can't quite make the leap to what a TiVo does without using it.
Steve is good at putting himself in the mind of potential users, and seeing it "for the first time" through their eyes. A focus group can only do so much (depending on how it's done of course). So when a product does come out that meets people's need many people do think they can't live without it.
The AppleTV was the biggest 'failure' to achieve that. And I think there are 2 reasons.
1) It didn't get the content he envisioned - existing contracts and studios trying to keep existing models didn't bite.
2) Even after it came out, many people didn't get it (partially due to the contracts).
I actually get cited in a major newspaper and it's for some random, bored speculation on a rainy Sunday afternoon. And edited down for simplicity, at that.
I demand the LA Times cite my much funnier, smarter posts, so that the Addabox Decade can begin properly.
Nah, they done you wrong by not quoting your "look Nano colours" post. That was an inspired moment.
What does it mean?
I'm sure my guess is just as vague (and wrong) as yours. \
Hate to take the wind out of your sails Dr Millmoss 'cause it's a cute idea, but aren't Rorschach tests symmetrical blots?
Nah, they done you wrong by not quoting your "look Nano colours" post. That was an inspired moment.
What does it mean?
I'm sure my guess is just as vague (and wrong) as yours. \
Hate to take the wind out of your sails Dr Millmoss 'cause it's a cute idea, but aren't Rorschach tests symmetrical blots?
Hey yeah! If the Nano colors thing turns out to be in any way significant, I trust the LA Times will revisit the matter, credit where credit is due, etc.
Because I'm pretty sure they have reporters reading Apple forums beyond the quick "Let's see if they're still loons" scan.
Yeah, they are. More preciously, bilateral symmetry.
I think the best wy to describe this thread is Apophenia: the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.
I love that word, Apophenia. I wanted to register Apophenia.com but, alas, taken. It's just that the determination to see patterns whether they're there or not seems so central to our human experience, and explains so much. What are conspiracy theories, if not a determined effort to make patterns out of disparate and probably unrelated bits of information?
I just think the whole mechanism is very beautiful.
I love that word, Apophenia. I wanted to register Apophenia.com but, alas, taken. It's just that the determination to see patterns whether they're there or not seems so central to our human experience, and explains so much. What are conspiracy theories, if not a determined effort to make patterns out of disparate and probably unrelated bits of information?
I just think the whole mechanism is very beautiful.
LOL I too tried to register that domain name years ago. It was my first screen name on AOL a very, very long time ago, but the reads that I?m female which brought out the perverts, so I chose the appellation Solipsism.
LOL I too tried to register that domain name years ago. It was my first screen name on AOL a very, very long time ago, but the reads that I?m female which brought out the perverts, so I chose the appellation Solipsism.
We should gang up on that guy that has the domain and take it by force. He doesn't appear to be doing anything very interesting with it.
Yeah, they are. More preciously, bilateral symmetry.
I think the best wy to describe this thread is Apophenia: the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.
Oh if only it was applophenia that would be purrrrrrrrfect.
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Hey yeah! If the Nano colors thing turns out to be in any way significant, I trust the LA Times will revisit the matter, credit where credit is due, etc.
Because I'm pretty sure they have reporters reading Apple forums beyond the quick "Let's see if they're still loons" scan.
Well clearly the Nano colours aren't an accident but yeah, whether they have any significance beyond either the colour of the iThingy or painting apps remains to be seen.
No doubt about the reporters lurking. Remember there was an incident a few years back now, can't recall what product, where someone posted a reasonably convincing rumor and fake pic. Had a few people fooled. Instead of hanging around, one or more reporters jumped on the news and reported it as CONFIRMED!11!!!!!1 (in several publications IIRC). About 3 thread pages later, it had been dismissed as a photoshop job resulting in retractions abounding in several high profile publications.
If nothing else, I'm sure the whole Worker Bee business put the rumor sites on the list of potential information sources. I was thinking just recently that, these days, it's a wonder one of the sleazier publications hasn't bought off a Worker Bee v.2. NDA or no NDA. You'd think someone at Apple might be tempted to offer up info under the right conditions and for the right price. Maybe Steve pays the minions working on the Next Big Thing® well enough for them to resist temptation.
Well clearly the Nano colours aren't an accident but yeah, whether they have any significance beyond either the colour of the iThingy or painting apps remains to be seen.
Somebody, somewhere (too many threads, who knows where) said that they looked like inkjet spurts. And indicated the connection to replacing traditional printed colour media.
Somebody, somewhere (too many threads, who knows where) said that they looked like inkjet spurts. And indicated the connection to replacing traditional printed colour media.
I liked that one.
Oops! Yeah forgot that one. Even before the Harper Collins story there have been some fairly convincing reports of secret talks between Apple and various publishers.
I incline to Daring Fireball's (and other's) theory that it will be more computer than iPhone. And really, if it serves up ebooks and includes basic computer functions - internet, email, iPhoto, iTunes etc plus allows for faster and easier typing/note-taking on a larger virtual keyboard - what student wouldn't want one? There's a lot of situations where an iPhone is inadequate but a laptop is too cumbersome. Waiting in doctor's surgeries, travelling on public transport, hell even using a 12" laptop in a cafe can be awkward.
While some educational institutions have picked up on using iPods to transfer course content to students, currently they still need a second device to use the material. Apple knows the education market and a learning device like that could revolutionize not just how students access published works but a whole lot more besides.
Rather than ditching the desktop because I can't move it around, I'd be sorely tempted to go back to a nice big honking iMac and ditch the laptop in favor of an iThingy if they do it well enough. Then if they could just work out a way to make use of all the enrgy they put into developing the iLamp's "neck" so I could attach my iThingy to it and be able to lie on the couch or in bed and have it suspended above or in front of me while being able to get it out of the way with a gentle nudge, damn I'd be a happy chappy.
IMHO the personal computer won't really reach it's stride until you can comfortably use one lying down.
Apple has certainly pursued products that may not be the smallest available but offer far the most bang for their size. I'll be disappointed if I'm not surprised by how much they manage to cram into such a small device.
And if it's more computer than iPhone/iPod it may not be an iThingy at all. It would have to be a MacThingy. Surely?
OTOH the Jackson Pollock debate reminded me that David Hockney is apparently enamoured with the iPhone as sketchpad. Maybe he's going to replace John Mayer as the celebrity guest. Nah. I think I'm suffering from applephonia now.
I've seen a couple of his sketches but those ones linked to a few pages back were even more amazing in terms of their detail. Makes me wish I could draw.
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Not to be a party pooper but I don't see a tablet being very successful.
Stop being a party pooper.
Is it just me who would find it hilarious if Steve came on stage and just said something like, "we've re-designed our website" then wandered off!
I missed this on my first go-over of the thread -- yeah, that would be hysterical!
I could just picture him walking from one side of the stage to the other, glancing out at the crowd and saying, "Oh, we've re-designed our website!" as he exits.
I'm hoping that they have a painting-style graphics program to go with (or without) the tablet...
Nobody really knows what they want or need, except Steve. But when Apple comes out with a new product, everybody in the world realizes that they can't live without one.
You're probably being sarcastic, but it's actually true that people don't realise how useful something can be until they use it. If it's close enough to what they understand then they can imagine using it and make a pretty good guess at whether it's useful - but if it redefines things, people need to see it before they get it. As an example - my father doesn't want a TiVo and the reason he gives is that he doesn't use his old VCR - he equates them together and then can't quite make the leap to what a TiVo does without using it.
Steve is good at putting himself in the mind of potential users, and seeing it "for the first time" through their eyes. A focus group can only do so much (depending on how it's done of course). So when a product does come out that meets people's need many people do think they can't live without it.
The AppleTV was the biggest 'failure' to achieve that. And I think there are 2 reasons.
1) It didn't get the content he envisioned - existing contracts and studios trying to keep existing models didn't bite.
2) Even after it came out, many people didn't get it (partially due to the contracts).
Most people who have the AppleTV swear by it.
Not to be a party pooper but I don't see a tablet being very successful.
Just my 2 cents...
I guess success is relative. If Apple charges its usual 40% margin, how many do they really have to sell? They won't sell many.
Stop being a party pooper.
You'd better change your sig quick to "The name will be 'iPad' or I'll eat my hat".
I'm going to miss yelling MacTouch FTW!!
I actually get cited in a major newspaper and it's for some random, bored speculation on a rainy Sunday afternoon. And edited down for simplicity, at that.
I demand the LA Times cite my much funnier, smarter posts, so that the Addabox Decade can begin properly.
Nah, they done you wrong by not quoting your "look Nano colours" post. That was an inspired moment.
What does it mean?
I'm sure my guess is just as vague (and wrong) as yours.
Hate to take the wind out of your sails Dr Millmoss 'cause it's a cute idea, but aren't Rorschach tests symmetrical blots?
Hate to take the wind out of your sails Dr Millmoss 'cause it's a cute idea, but aren't Rorschach tests symmetrical blots?
Yeah, they are. More preciously, bilateral symmetry.
I think the best wy to describe this thread is Apophenia: the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.
I'll never make that mistake again. I will have to make others.
Nah, they done you wrong by not quoting your "look Nano colours" post. That was an inspired moment.
What does it mean?
I'm sure my guess is just as vague (and wrong) as yours.
Hate to take the wind out of your sails Dr Millmoss 'cause it's a cute idea, but aren't Rorschach tests symmetrical blots?
Hey yeah! If the Nano colors thing turns out to be in any way significant, I trust the LA Times will revisit the matter, credit where credit is due, etc.
Because I'm pretty sure they have reporters reading Apple forums beyond the quick "Let's see if they're still loons" scan.
Yeah, they are. More preciously, bilateral symmetry.
I think the best wy to describe this thread is Apophenia: the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.
I love that word, Apophenia. I wanted to register Apophenia.com but, alas, taken. It's just that the determination to see patterns whether they're there or not seems so central to our human experience, and explains so much. What are conspiracy theories, if not a determined effort to make patterns out of disparate and probably unrelated bits of information?
I just think the whole mechanism is very beautiful.
Well I stand corrected then!
I'll never make that mistake again. I will have to make others.
That's the beauty of it, isn't it? Always more mistakes to make, each more intricate than the last.
I love that word, Apophenia. I wanted to register Apophenia.com but, alas, taken. It's just that the determination to see patterns whether they're there or not seems so central to our human experience, and explains so much. What are conspiracy theories, if not a determined effort to make patterns out of disparate and probably unrelated bits of information?
I just think the whole mechanism is very beautiful.
LOL I too tried to register that domain name years ago. It was my first screen name on AOL a very, very long time ago, but the reads that I?m female which brought out the perverts, so I chose the appellation Solipsism.
LOL I too tried to register that domain name years ago. It was my first screen name on AOL a very, very long time ago, but the reads that I?m female which brought out the perverts, so I chose the appellation Solipsism.
We should gang up on that guy that has the domain and take it by force. He doesn't appear to be doing anything very interesting with it.
We should gang up on that guy that has the domain and take it by force. He doesn't appear to be doing anything very interesting with it.
Danah has at least 2 other sites and she isn?t using any of them well.
Yeah, they are. More preciously, bilateral symmetry.
I think the best wy to describe this thread is Apophenia: the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.
Oh if only it was applophenia that would be purrrrrrrrfect.
Hey yeah! If the Nano colors thing turns out to be in any way significant, I trust the LA Times will revisit the matter, credit where credit is due, etc.
Because I'm pretty sure they have reporters reading Apple forums beyond the quick "Let's see if they're still loons" scan.
Well clearly the Nano colours aren't an accident but yeah, whether they have any significance beyond either the colour of the iThingy or painting apps remains to be seen.
No doubt about the reporters lurking. Remember there was an incident a few years back now, can't recall what product, where someone posted a reasonably convincing rumor and fake pic. Had a few people fooled. Instead of hanging around, one or more reporters jumped on the news and reported it as CONFIRMED!11!!!!!1 (in several publications IIRC). About 3 thread pages later, it had been dismissed as a photoshop job resulting in retractions abounding in several high profile publications.
If nothing else, I'm sure the whole Worker Bee business put the rumor sites on the list of potential information sources. I was thinking just recently that, these days, it's a wonder one of the sleazier publications hasn't bought off a Worker Bee v.2. NDA or no NDA. You'd think someone at Apple might be tempted to offer up info under the right conditions and for the right price. Maybe Steve pays the minions working on the Next Big Thing® well enough for them to resist temptation.
Well clearly the Nano colours aren't an accident but yeah, whether they have any significance beyond either the colour of the iThingy or painting apps remains to be seen.
Somebody, somewhere (too many threads, who knows where) said that they looked like inkjet spurts. And indicated the connection to replacing traditional printed colour media.
I liked that one.
Oh if only it was applophenia that would be purrrrrrrrfect.
Hmm? Applephenia.com does sound like a pretty good name for an Apple rumour site.
Somebody, somewhere (too many threads, who knows where) said that they looked like inkjet spurts. And indicated the connection to replacing traditional printed colour media.
I liked that one.
Oops! Yeah forgot that one. Even before the Harper Collins story there have been some fairly convincing reports of secret talks between Apple and various publishers.
I incline to Daring Fireball's (and other's) theory that it will be more computer than iPhone. And really, if it serves up ebooks and includes basic computer functions - internet, email, iPhoto, iTunes etc plus allows for faster and easier typing/note-taking on a larger virtual keyboard - what student wouldn't want one? There's a lot of situations where an iPhone is inadequate but a laptop is too cumbersome. Waiting in doctor's surgeries, travelling on public transport, hell even using a 12" laptop in a cafe can be awkward.
While some educational institutions have picked up on using iPods to transfer course content to students, currently they still need a second device to use the material. Apple knows the education market and a learning device like that could revolutionize not just how students access published works but a whole lot more besides.
Rather than ditching the desktop because I can't move it around, I'd be sorely tempted to go back to a nice big honking iMac and ditch the laptop in favor of an iThingy if they do it well enough. Then if they could just work out a way to make use of all the enrgy they put into developing the iLamp's "neck" so I could attach my iThingy to it and be able to lie on the couch or in bed and have it suspended above or in front of me while being able to get it out of the way with a gentle nudge, damn I'd be a happy chappy.
IMHO the personal computer won't really reach it's stride until you can comfortably use one lying down.
Apple has certainly pursued products that may not be the smallest available but offer far the most bang for their size. I'll be disappointed if I'm not surprised by how much they manage to cram into such a small device.
And if it's more computer than iPhone/iPod it may not be an iThingy at all. It would have to be a MacThingy. Surely?
OTOH the Jackson Pollock debate reminded me that David Hockney is apparently enamoured with the iPhone as sketchpad. Maybe he's going to replace John Mayer as the celebrity guest. Nah. I think I'm suffering from applephonia now.
I've seen a couple of his sketches but those ones linked to a few pages back were even more amazing in terms of their detail. Makes me wish I could draw.
That's the beauty of it, isn't it? Always more mistakes to make, each more intricate than the last.
One can aspire to perfect error.
One can aspire to perfect error.
If that is the goal then Teckstud has a perfect record of being wrong.