Apple tablet rumors: Time Inc. in the dark, PA Semi chip, 'secret' negotiations

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  • Reply 21 of 55
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
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    Originally Posted by tipoo View Post


    I wonder if this means Apple will take (or have already taken) a Cortex A8 or A9 reference design, and built a SoC around it, of if they actually made their OWN processor design around the ARM architecture.



    In either case, it would have to be pretty damn impressive to compete with the Tegra 2 with its dual Cortex A9 goodness, or the future Snapdragon with two 1.5GHz Snapdragon cores.



    Samsung's Hummingbird (1Ghz 45nm Cortex A8) was reportedly very fast so they aren't slouches.



    Going to the A9 fixes one of Tegra's biggest shortfalls. What apple might want is more GPU performance (more than the SGX535) than the normal Cortex designs if there is to be a focus on games. That's one of Tegra's strong points (no surprise)...the assumption is that Tegra 2 will outperform the SGX545.



    I hope that the tablet will have the SGX545. Tegra 2 might be a bit faster but it shouldn't be a slouch.



    So my guess is a Samsung Cortex A9 design tweaked by PA Semi with a SGX545 for GPU. Not exactly out there as a risky prediction.
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  • Reply 22 of 55
    ssquirrelssquirrel Posts: 1,196member
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    Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post


    I wonder if Steve's still pissed at Time over the iMac G4.



    Didn't Time Canada release their cover with the iLamp a day early too? I thought I recalled Time busting an Apple story early at least 2-3 times. I would keep them in the dark if I were Steve too.
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  • Reply 23 of 55
    I'd like it if they did have a way to deliever newspaper/magazine content well. I love my Kindle for books, but the way it deals with newspapers (I subscribe to the Times) is crappy - really badly formatted.



    It would be great if they came up with a way that you could view the page exactly as it is in the print version, then could zoom in on articles etc....
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  • Reply 24 of 55
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by iGenius View Post


    Yeah, but if that is all it has, it will be because that will be all you need. Nobody else will want any more ports. Everybody will realize that the provided ports are the best, and that any additional ports would have made the product worse.



    Apple will not give users what users want. Instead, it will give users what Apple knows is best for them.



    Just like a nanny. When us kids ask to drink milk, our iNanny gives us delicious Apple juice! And then we all realize that it is PERFECT.



    I?ll never understand these personal attacks toward a company. What they produce is NOT a personal attack on you. They are trying to make money and finding the best way they know to do it. If you like what they offer then buy it, if you don?t then shop elsewhere. If no one makes it then create your company to fill the gap, if you think there is a market for it. It?s that fraking simple.



    Apple WILL put the ports that it feels are best suited to sell this device in droves. That mean finding ways to exclude ports as well as finding ways to add ports. Adding more just to add it isnt? usually in the consumer?s best interests.



    Personally, i?d like to see mDP on the device since it can transfer USB data at 750Mbps and I like the small size over the larger, 9-year old 30-pin dock connector. I bet you can find ways to complain about Apple only using the same connector for nearly a decade.
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  • Reply 25 of 55
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    Stranglehold? Apple provided the only way forward for the music industry. They should all be kissing Jobs' ring finger for helping those worthless executives keep their positions.



    Well, with Apple's 75% of the digital music distribution, the music industry is forced to comply with Apple's fixed prices. This only changed a bit with the 69/99/129 cents system, which was Apple's side of the bargain in exchange for iTunes Plus all around (DRM, CD-quality).



    The funny thing is, while Apple plays the good guy and the music labels try to fsck their costumers even more, when a movie has some scenes cut, when an album has a glitch or a song missing or when a song costs $1.39, all you read on the comments section is whining about "stupid iTunes" or "greedy Apple", even though Apple isn't the one who selects and sells the content...
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  • Reply 26 of 55
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    I completely agree with you, which is why the publishing comanies should be doing the same. But the music companies consider Apple a necessary evil, seeing as how they are much more in favor of giving Amazon, last.fm, et al much better licensing deals.



    The publishers have the iTMS history to pull from while the music labels had no idea what was in store for them. This seemed to backfire on Apple (and the AppleTV) when Apple tried this with the healthy movie studios, but the publishers can?t play hardball like they did.



    The publishers are hurting with many going completely under each year and most seemingly having to downsize to keep their heads above water. They may think they can butt heads but all Apple needs is one publisher, one catalyst to make the others want to whitewash the fence. As much as they may hate giving Apple control they have no choice.



    Just like with music, TV and movies being distributed by many online vendors I think this will be the same. I think the iTunes LP and Extras were first designed for the tablet for distributing content and I have to think that they have a Publication Design Kit in place, not just the documentation and examples that we saw for the iTunes LP and Extras. Hopefully we get to see it.
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  • Reply 27 of 55
    Given Apple's track record, it'd behoove the publishers to sit and listen, and not talk too much. They shouldn't throw out the baby with the bath water; pennies on the dollar is probably more than they'd make selling magazines and papers in the next decade.
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  • Reply 28 of 55
    jmmxjmmx Posts: 341member
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    Originally Posted by vinea View Post


    Samsung's Hummingbird (1Ghz 45nm Cortex A8) was reportedly very fast so they aren't slouches.

    ,,,

    So my guess is a Samsung Cortex A9 design tweaked by PA Semi with a SGX545 for GPU. Not exactly out there as a risky prediction.



    I have to admit, the specs on the processor is one of the exciting things for me. My bet is that it will have a few real surprises.



    I am also hoping for a full OSX, but find that a lot less likely. If there is no way to do real word processing, I will be really disappointed. I would also like to have Adobe Lightroom on it.



    If all we have is a reader on steroids, it WILL be disappointing.
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  • Reply 29 of 55
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    I am also hoping for a full OSX, but find that a lot less likely. If there is no way to do real word processing, I will be really disappointed. I would also like to have Adobe Lightroom on it.



    It?ll be ?full OSX? but I don?t see how it can be Mac OS X. How well would Lightroom work on a 10? display that uses your fingers to navigate? I had a 10? MSI Wind with Mac OS X installed. Mac OS X is not ideal for a 10? display, even when using something as simple as Safari or looking at your Dashboard Widgets. I can?t imagine how bad it would be for productivity apps.
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  • Reply 30 of 55
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    My guess is because the publishing industry does not want Apple to create a stranglehold on their products like they did with music. They just need to realize Apple is trying to do them a favor, much like with pushing music to the digital mainstream.



    Yes, yes. Apple is doing us all a favor by selling us something. What a benevolent company they are. We can all thank God or Steve for allow Apple to sell us commoners products. I get goose bumps just at the thought of all that Apple goodness poring forth from Cupertino.
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  • Reply 31 of 55
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I?ll never understand these personal attacks toward a company. What they produce is NOT a personal attack on you. They are trying to make money and finding the best way they know to do it. If you like what they offer then buy it, if you don?t then shop elsewhere. If no one makes it then create your company to fill the gap, if you think there is a market for it. It?s that fraking simple.



    Apple WILL put the ports that it feels are best suited to sell this device in droves. That mean finding ways to exclude ports as well as finding ways to add ports. Adding more just to add it isnt? usually in the consumer?s best interests.



    Personally, i?d like to see mDP on the device since it can transfer USB data at 750Mbps and I like the small size over the larger, 9-year old 30-pin dock connector. I bet you can find ways to complain about Apple only using the same connector for nearly a decade.



    Another great post. You said it. Apple in the business to make money. They are not the shining beacon on a hill. They are a company that makes innovative products, makes new innovative products out of old technology and so on. At the end of the day, they are a biz, first and foremost.
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  • Reply 32 of 55
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    Originally Posted by Lukeskymac View Post


    Well, with Apple's 75% of the digital music distribution, the music industry is forced to comply with Apple's fixed prices. This only changed a bit with the 69/99/129 cents system, which was Apple's side of the bargain in exchange for iTunes Plus all around (DRM, CD-quality).



    The funny thing is, while Apple plays the good guy and the music labels try to fsck their costumers even more, when a movie has some scenes cut, when an album has a glitch or a song missing or when a song costs $1.39, all you read on the comments section is whining about "stupid iTunes" or "greedy Apple", even though Apple isn't the one who selects and sells the content...



    At the risk of irritating the record labels even more, I hope Apple is able to become the exclusive distributor of some high profile artists in the future, acting as a distributor to connect artist with consumer in a more direct way. I bet Apple adopts some Twitter-like functionality on artist pages in the future also.
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  • Reply 33 of 55
    I would call the iTablet.......................The iSlablet.....just because it sounds funny and in we used to call "ho's", slabs or slabbies or butt slabs.
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  • Reply 34 of 55
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    As we've heard in the rumors, the tablet will likely be targeted at leisure computing such as magazines, books among other medias. I subscribe to quite a few magazines, mostly art and architecture. I just don't think I would enjoy them as much in a digital form on a small screen since they are mostly visually oriented in subject matter.



    Finding and sampling of magazines does sound appealing to me so rather than buying the digital version I would be much more interested in searching for and then previewing various publications which might lead to actually subscribing to the printed version.



    On the other hand the new format could work well for world publishers to gain exposure to foreign markets where postage and delay for printed versions might be a deterrent to many potential readers.
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  • Reply 35 of 55
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    ... and new allegations claim Time Inc. has little knowledge of the tablet.



    Allegations... doesn't that mean accusations of wrongdoing? Oh my, the plot thickens.
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  • Reply 36 of 55
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    Originally Posted by sapporobabyrtrns View Post


    Yes, yes. Apple is doing us all a favor by selling us something. What a benevolent company they are. We can all thank God or Steve for allow Apple to sell us commoners products. I get goose bumps just at the thought of all that Apple goodness poring forth from Cupertino.



    Oh c'mon. That's weak. No one's forcing you to buy anything (least of all, Apple).



    Add: Oops. I see you were being sarcastic...... pls ignore my post.
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  • Reply 37 of 55
    Last year i read an article about Rupert Murdoch and he was asked what plans he had to get mainstream news websites charging for its content. He replied, ?The current days of the internet will soon be over.?



    At first i thought he was planning something evil but he was making reference to the fact that corporate media websites cannot continue to survive under their current failing business model.



    I'm beginning to wonder now if he knew something about this tablet device.



    Maybe not but he is all powerful.
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  • Reply 38 of 55
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post


    Last year i read an article about Rupert Murdoch and he was asked what plans he had to get mainstream news websites charging for its content. He replied, ?The current days of the internet will soon be over.?



    The New York Times has announced that they will soon be charging for internet access, next year I believe. I thought this was already deemed to be failed model (with the exception of the Wall Street Journal) but it seems to be making a comeback. I suspect the newspapers in particular are anticipating a new breed of internet devices that will be received by the public as 1:1 substitutes for newsprint, which conventional web browser access has never been fully. So I don't think this means Murdoch necessarily knows something specific about Apple's plans.
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  • Reply 39 of 55
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post


    Last year i read an article about Rupert Murdoch and he was asked what plans he had to get mainstream news websites charging for its content. He replied, “The current days of the internet will soon be over.”



    At first i thought he was planning something evil but he was making reference to the fact that corporate media websites cannot continue to survive under their current failing business model.



    I'm beginning to wonder now if he knew something about this tablet device.



    Maybe not but he is all powerful.



    http://www.internetretailer.com/dail...a=track&ref=ya



    Doh! They just signed an exclusive with Sony. That's kinda like signing an exclusive to only be on Palm PDAs just before the Blackberry crushed them.
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  • Reply 40 of 55
    Good luck, Print Industry dictating terms to Apple. Apple are offering you access to millions of credit cards and what are they offering? Content that most people prefer on paper. At a 70-30 split...if they can't see you have to speculate to accumulate then they can take their dinosaur ways and shrivel and die. I don't care about Newspapers dying. Overpriced pap most of them. Magazines. Regurgitating the same content over and over again. Marvel Comics? Screw the big comics companies. Eating their own vommit of pointless and hollow re-invention for how long?



    In the internet era? Most of the really interesting stuff is coming from small independents. The big boys still don't get it. Like M$, they think their previous stranglehold will work on the digital frontier?



    Wrong. And they will be proven wrong. Because people can move in the blink of a hypertext link.



    Print industry? You'll suck it up and like it.



    If you don't. I'll get my 'free news' from elsewhere on the internet. I've done quite well without the the times so far. *Shrugs.



    I'd rather read blogs and smaller press outlets. I don't want to pay to hear a 'Murdoch' 2D spin on what I'm supposed to think... *Shrugs.



    And they'd better offer damn good prices for me to replace the tactile feedback of a good paper book. Good luck with that. You're going to need it.



    I don't see me buying books on it. I'll happily stay luddite for some time in this respect.



    I don't need some big company to be my conduit on the internet. I want direct access to the creator. Apple as a gate-keeper with iTunes? Hmm. I'll look into how they do with the print industry thing. But I recently bought a digital book (ironic in light of my comments...) for much cheaper than the print price. Got it downloaded and used Apple's Preview to view it as PDA doc. Ez. I'd look at it on my tablet if I get it. I suppose.



    It's a case of wait and see for me. Print industry and content creation of said is an area of interest to me. And if Apple allows independent creators of quality content to join the 'e-print' revolution of distribution on their iTunes store...I'll look into it. 30-70. It's better than the rate Diamond Comics Distributors gives to Independent Comic Publishers...



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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