What about the yellow screen discoloration issue? No mention of that in the article. There's some blogger over at Gizmodo who's gone through at least two 27" iMacs. The answer from Apple is to keep returning them until you get a good one.
After I ordered a quad-core 27-incher I was told it would take 3 weeks, but those child workers in Shanghai obviously worked over Christmas and it arrived within 2 weeks. No stripes no stutter. Together with the new mouse, the performance is fantastic. For example, open a set of web bookmarks in Tabs and flick the mouse surface backwards or forwards to go to next or previous page. Flick past the top level and it takes you back to the previous set of tabs! I had to try this several times backwards and forwards instantaneously between sets of dozens of websites before I really believed it was doing this.
Don't listen to any of those holdouts saying that a matte screen is better. I ran the iMac27 next to a 23HD display, which looked so dull I couldn't take side-by-side photos (well I could and did- if exposed for the ACHD the iMac27 flares out, if exposed for the iMac27 the ACHD looks like it's switched off). Plus the 27-inch screen makes the 23-inch Cinema Display look TINY! With a tuner, the iMac27 is now my HDTV. Only comment is that the sound is very good as a PC, but it is reflected off the desktop, if you sit further away it sounds too quiet - plug the audio into your HiFi.
Connection with a possible Apple Tablet? The triple combination of Speed, Screen and Touch makes the iMac27 with Magic Mouse a very different and more enjoyable computing experience than any Mac, Windows or Linux PC I have ever used. Just imagine what they can do with a format that is 10-years younger than the OS X desktop PC.
Ha ha, we will see on the 25th how many people didn't buy a Mac.
As for the whining; it will get you nowhere, except for a pitiful life (sic).
Remember, Apple is very low on the list of market share compared to other computer companies like Dell, HP and even Leveno (who do offer matte screens).
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Steve understands that, and that's why there are some matte options, hopefully he is researching the issue and will come up with a reflection and glare free glass that we all can enjoy.
Remember, Apple is very low on the list of market share compared to other computer companies like Dell, HP and even Leveno (who do offer matte screens).
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Steve understands that, and that's why there are some matte options, hopefully he is researching the issue and will come up with a reflection and glare free glass that we all can enjoy.
Those of us who don't care about Matte vs. Glossy are sick of listening to this in every single topic posted on here. You're doing a good enough job of alienating the rest of us on your own.
Hmm, how can we force a connection between this and the tablet?
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Originally Posted by rbonner
I think your post is very respectful, probably the first I have seen on this issue. Nice job.
I concur. Most of the people wanting matte on here just spew nonsense that Apple is doomed. It?s too bad more posts can?t be as level headed as Rebelmusik?s.
y bad fortune at Apple, but I am hopeful that their troubles with the newest generation iMacs cause them to re-evaluate its design and structure, and possibly re-instate a matte / anti-glare option for those who are willing to pay for it.
It is unlikely that Apple would do anything matte or otherwise due any problem of any kind. just not the way the game works. Apple will do matte when they fell the demand is there AND they can do it while staying within their design and environmental plans.
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Originally Posted by extremeskater
Not sure if the GPU is the issue in this case.
well they did issue an update and many folks are reporting that their problems are solved. Also supposedly some authorized repair guy cracked open a 'defective' machine to test the LEDs against a working one and found no defect. so he believes the GPU is the issue.
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The other issue is just poor design with the edge to edge glass with such a large screen. Makes it way too easy to chip or crack durning shipping.
yeah which is why all those units bought at stores were damaged (oh wait)
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Originally Posted by DaHarder
Personally...
I just wish that Apple would show a bit more transparency regarding these matters.
At this point, the entire situation looks a bit 'shady'
some things to note
1. Apple doesn't have to tell the public anything about why delivery times have changed. No law requires it.
2. 99% of the time, reports of defects are highly exaggerated due to the simple fact that folks with a problem will always talk, talk loud and talk everywhere they can. But folks without a problem are too busy having fun to bother chiming in. So what might seem like a huge issue rarely is. Especially when there's not an immediate response. in fact the only reason this display issue got hot so fast is because a couple of the machines went to bloggers who will always scream when they have a problem and rally others to do so.
3. Apple doesn't speculate. They state. When they know what the problem is, they give an answer. Sometimes it takes a couple of rounds (we are currently in round two). But they are working on the problem. There is likely no law that requires them to state to the public every step, test and result. The law is just that they fix the situation. How they do that isn't in the law, just that they do
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Originally Posted by jasenj1
What about the yellow screen discoloration issue? No mention of that in the article. There's some blogger over at Gizmodo who's gone through at least two 27" iMacs. The answer from Apple is to keep returning them until you get a good one.
- Jasen.
actually no. the reason said blogger is on his warpath is because Apple refused to issue him a return on the second one (for an exchange) until he takes the machine into a store to be tested.
He got pissed and has been running almost daily blasts against the company
Forgetting that the in store testing is part of what provides Apple with needed data about what could be the problem so they can have the means to test outgoing machines and better prevent him from getting yet another bad one. If Apple waits until all these machines come back to the main factories, that adds time to the process.
Also said gentleman has not acknowledged that a firmware update was issued and he tried that step. Something they would do at the store. He is demanding that Apple send him a perfect model (forgetting also that any company can have issues and have updates that come up after wide release). Period.
And to top it off, some of his early comments make it sound like he didn't buy this computer but it was sent to them for free to review. a detail he still hasn't clarified (same for the screaming guy that was over at TUAW, although apparently his second machine was fine)
Actually I never sent mine back because I knew it had to be something like a firmware issue with the GPU and it would get resolved. It was a bit of a pain for a while but I seemed to be having far less problems them most so I just waited it out. In the end they released a fireware update and I never had an issue after that.
I don't know if this is the same kind of issue but I do feel of the people having problems because it sucks to get something like this and start to have problems. Kind of takes all the fun away.
I'm sending my 27" back tomorrow. I've called Apple but they haven't been able to resolve the screen flickering which freezes my computer and forces a hard restart. I wish they'd resolve this problem already
After I ordered a quad-core 27-incher I was told it would take 3 weeks, but those child workers in Shanghai obviously worked over Christmas and it arrived within 2 weeks. No stripes no stutter. Together with the new mouse, the performance is fantastic. For example, open a set of web bookmarks in Tabs and flick the mouse surface backwards or forwards to go to next or previous page. Flick past the top level and it takes you back to the previous set of tabs! I had to try this several times backwards and forwards instantaneously between sets of dozens of websites before I really believed it was doing this.
Don't listen to any of those holdouts saying that a matte screen is better. I ran the iMac27 next to a 23HD display, which looked so dull I couldn't take side-by-side photos (well I could and did- if exposed for the ACHD the iMac27 flares out, if exposed for the iMac27 the ACHD looks like it's switched off). Plus the 27-inch screen makes the 23-inch Cinema Display look TINY! With a tuner, the iMac27 is now my HDTV. Only comment is that the sound is very good as a PC, but it is reflected off the desktop, if you sit further away it sounds too quiet - plug the audio into your HiFi.
Connection with a possible Apple Tablet? The triple combination of Speed, Screen and Touch makes the iMac27 with Magic Mouse a very different and more enjoyable computing experience than any Mac, Windows or Linux PC I have ever used. Just imagine what they can do with a format that is 10-years younger than the OS X desktop PC.
I know this story doesn't leave us with much (or any) indication that this is a mid-cycle update issue, but I do want to remind those reading this thread that there are plenty of Apple customers ? mostly design professionals like myself ? who are incredibly upset by the lack of matte option on the new iMacs. I don't wish for any bad fortune at Apple, but I am hopeful that their troubles with the newest generation iMacs cause them to re-evaluate its design and structure, and possibly re-instate a matte / anti-glare option for those who are willing to pay for it.
As a design professional, what is the problem (as you see it) with the iMac design and structure?
1. Apple doesn't have to tell the public anything about why delivery times have changed. No law requires it.
2. 99% of the time, reports of defects are highly exaggerated due to the simple fact that folks with a problem will always talk, talk loud and talk everywhere they can. But folks without a problem are too busy having fun to bother chiming in. So what might seem like a huge issue rarely is. Especially when there's not an immediate response. in fact the only reason this display issue got hot so fast is because a couple of the machines went to bloggers who will always scream when they have a problem and rally others to do so.
3. Apple doesn't speculate. They state. When they know what the problem is, they give an answer. Sometimes it takes a couple of rounds (we are currently in round two). But they are working on the problem. There is likely no law that requires them to state to the public every step, test and result. The law is just that they fix the situation. How they do that isn't in the law, just that they do
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I was one of the first to get the iMac 27"; it arrived within 24 hours! And no hardware issues to speak of (sleep, took a while sometimes and my right mouse button (the virtual one) disappeared sometimes; but all is fixed with the latest updates), its performance and ease of use is the best I experienced ever!
Remember, Apple is very low on the list of market share compared to other computer companies like Dell, HP and even Leveno (who do offer matte screens).
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Steve understands that, and that's why there are some matte options, hopefully he is researching the issue and will come up with a reflection and glare free glass that we all can enjoy.
I understand completely, your paid to spew FUD (or otherwise willfully misinformed, with the same effect).
To respond to your remarks (only to DE-FUD), your wrong, Apple has the biggest share of all 1000$ + computers, and thats what brings in the dollars.
I'm sending my 27" back tomorrow. I've called Apple but they haven't been able to resolve the screen flickering which freezes my computer and forces a hard restart. I wish they'd resolve this problem already
I don't blame you for sending it back because there really doesn't seem to be any progress on the problem and you payed alot of money. With my situation they were fairly certain it was either a software of firmware issue and it simply needed to be resolved so I was willing to wait it out. But in this case I think I would have also returned the system.
By the way, not to toot my horn, but it was I that got personally in touch with Steve Jobs and he brought back the 15" matte screen MacBook Pro models a few weeks later.
I love when members on this forum talk about Steve Jobs as if they actually know him. It ranks up there with people that own 2 shares of Apple stock calling themselves sharholders. It just cracks me up.
perhaps there is an upgrade that Apple has made to some feature and will be included with new imacs, but since they are going to announce it at the upcoming event and include it in all imacs sold after a certain day, they are delaying any receipt until after the event.
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Obviously the millions including me buying glossy screens don't really care for matte like you think they do. They'd prefer the glossy screen compared to the matte, because it offers so much better color. Plus, the reflection is really not that bad, unless you have OCD when you turn off the screen or something. Sometimes I do agree... MacTripper is an alias for Teckstud. BTW, like another poster said, they own 93% of the $1000+ computers, so you can't say that professionals don't care for glossy, because obviously they pick glossy... and then buy them
Obviously the millions including me buying glossy screens don't really care for matte like you think they do. They'd prefer the glossy screen compared to the matte, because it offers so much better color. Plus, the reflection is really not that bad, unless you have OCD when you turn off the screen or something. Sometimes I do agree... MacTripper is an alias for Teckstud. BTW, like another poster said, they own 93% of the $1000+ computers, so you can't say that professionals don't care for glossy, because obviously they pick glossy... and then buy them
There is a segment of professionals that don't care for glossy but they wouldn't be buying iMacs or MBP anyways. They would in most cases be using a MacPro with the display of their choice.
Apple users talk about this like it has only happened on the Apple side. On the PC side its next to impossible to find any notebook that uses a matte screen anymore for the exception of some netbooks. On the desktop side then you have the option to select any monitor you want.
I do however believe that it wouldn't take much for Apple to offer their MBP line with a matte screen option even if it was only a BTO option. Then at least they could have some solid data to see if they really were losing business by not offering a matte option.
I love when members on this forum talk about Steve Jobs as if they actually know him. It ranks up there with people that own 2 shares of Apple stock calling themselves sharholders. It just cracks me up.
1) So people that hold shares in a company are not shareholders?
2) How many shares does one need to have before you would consider them shareholders?
3) Your arrogance in thinking that people who aren?t as heavily invested as others means they shouldn?t be as concerned about their investment is pathetic. I think that is a low, even for you.
2. 99% of the time, reports of defects are highly exaggerated due to the simple fact that folks with a problem will always talk, talk loud and talk everywhere they can. But folks without a problem are too busy having fun to bother chiming in. So what might seem like a huge issue rarely is. Especially when there's not an immediate response. in fact the only reason this display issue got hot so fast is because a couple of the machines went to bloggers who will always scream when they have a problem and rally others to do so.
Well, this is not the case this time. Many resellers are telling their customers that Apple itself told them about delays because of quality problems. I'm sure that Apple stats are telling the same. The iMac thread at their support discussion forums is one of the longest in that forum history!
It is not only a problem of flickering: the major problem is that of the yellowish discoloration in the bottom half of the screen, a problem so common that there's people who got 4 replacement in a row, all with the same problem (Apple instructions are to ask for a replacement until you get a good one). There are also the noise problems coming when the lcd brightness is dimmed or put to top, the HD noise and the iSight dead pixels (an average of more than 20).
Anyway, Apple is replacing units, and also sending out refunds, so their support to people with problems is excellent! Anyway it is not that good that all that problems went into production, far more than any other rev a product. Especially because this is the best iMac ever from all pow, and this issues may give a bad image to some new customers.
Comments
- Jasen.
Don't listen to any of those holdouts saying that a matte screen is better. I ran the iMac27 next to a 23HD display, which looked so dull I couldn't take side-by-side photos (well I could and did- if exposed for the ACHD the iMac27 flares out, if exposed for the iMac27 the ACHD looks like it's switched off). Plus the 27-inch screen makes the 23-inch Cinema Display look TINY! With a tuner, the iMac27 is now my HDTV. Only comment is that the sound is very good as a PC, but it is reflected off the desktop, if you sit further away it sounds too quiet - plug the audio into your HiFi.
Connection with a possible Apple Tablet? The triple combination of Speed, Screen and Touch makes the iMac27 with Magic Mouse a very different and more enjoyable computing experience than any Mac, Windows or Linux PC I have ever used. Just imagine what they can do with a format that is 10-years younger than the OS X desktop PC.
Ha ha, we will see on the 25th how many people didn't buy a Mac.
As for the whining; it will get you nowhere, except for a pitiful life (sic).
Remember, Apple is very low on the list of market share compared to other computer companies like Dell, HP and even Leveno (who do offer matte screens).
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Steve understands that, and that's why there are some matte options, hopefully he is researching the issue and will come up with a reflection and glare free glass that we all can enjoy.
Remember, Apple is very low on the list of market share compared to other computer companies like Dell, HP and even Leveno (who do offer matte screens).
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Steve understands that, and that's why there are some matte options, hopefully he is researching the issue and will come up with a reflection and glare free glass that we all can enjoy.
Those of us who don't care about Matte vs. Glossy are sick of listening to this in every single topic posted on here. You're doing a good enough job of alienating the rest of us on your own.
Hmm, how can we force a connection between this and the tablet?
I think your post is very respectful, probably the first I have seen on this issue. Nice job.
I concur. Most of the people wanting matte on here just spew nonsense that Apple is doomed. It?s too bad more posts can?t be as level headed as Rebelmusik?s.
y bad fortune at Apple, but I am hopeful that their troubles with the newest generation iMacs cause them to re-evaluate its design and structure, and possibly re-instate a matte / anti-glare option for those who are willing to pay for it.
It is unlikely that Apple would do anything matte or otherwise due any problem of any kind. just not the way the game works. Apple will do matte when they fell the demand is there AND they can do it while staying within their design and environmental plans.
Not sure if the GPU is the issue in this case.
well they did issue an update and many folks are reporting that their problems are solved. Also supposedly some authorized repair guy cracked open a 'defective' machine to test the LEDs against a working one and found no defect. so he believes the GPU is the issue.
The other issue is just poor design with the edge to edge glass with such a large screen. Makes it way too easy to chip or crack durning shipping.
yeah which is why all those units bought at stores were damaged (oh wait)
Personally...
I just wish that Apple would show a bit more transparency regarding these matters.
At this point, the entire situation looks a bit 'shady'
some things to note
1. Apple doesn't have to tell the public anything about why delivery times have changed. No law requires it.
2. 99% of the time, reports of defects are highly exaggerated due to the simple fact that folks with a problem will always talk, talk loud and talk everywhere they can. But folks without a problem are too busy having fun to bother chiming in. So what might seem like a huge issue rarely is. Especially when there's not an immediate response. in fact the only reason this display issue got hot so fast is because a couple of the machines went to bloggers who will always scream when they have a problem and rally others to do so.
3. Apple doesn't speculate. They state. When they know what the problem is, they give an answer. Sometimes it takes a couple of rounds (we are currently in round two). But they are working on the problem. There is likely no law that requires them to state to the public every step, test and result. The law is just that they fix the situation. How they do that isn't in the law, just that they do
What about the yellow screen discoloration issue? No mention of that in the article. There's some blogger over at Gizmodo who's gone through at least two 27" iMacs. The answer from Apple is to keep returning them until you get a good one.
- Jasen.
actually no. the reason said blogger is on his warpath is because Apple refused to issue him a return on the second one (for an exchange) until he takes the machine into a store to be tested.
He got pissed and has been running almost daily blasts against the company
Forgetting that the in store testing is part of what provides Apple with needed data about what could be the problem so they can have the means to test outgoing machines and better prevent him from getting yet another bad one. If Apple waits until all these machines come back to the main factories, that adds time to the process.
Also said gentleman has not acknowledged that a firmware update was issued and he tried that step. Something they would do at the store. He is demanding that Apple send him a perfect model (forgetting also that any company can have issues and have updates that come up after wide release). Period.
And to top it off, some of his early comments make it sound like he didn't buy this computer but it was sent to them for free to review. a detail he still hasn't clarified (same for the screaming guy that was over at TUAW, although apparently his second machine was fine)
Actually I never sent mine back because I knew it had to be something like a firmware issue with the GPU and it would get resolved. It was a bit of a pain for a while but I seemed to be having far less problems them most so I just waited it out. In the end they released a fireware update and I never had an issue after that.
I don't know if this is the same kind of issue but I do feel of the people having problems because it sucks to get something like this and start to have problems. Kind of takes all the fun away.
I'm sending my 27" back tomorrow. I've called Apple but they haven't been able to resolve the screen flickering which freezes my computer and forces a hard restart. I wish they'd resolve this problem already
After I ordered a quad-core 27-incher I was told it would take 3 weeks, but those child workers in Shanghai obviously worked over Christmas and it arrived within 2 weeks. No stripes no stutter. Together with the new mouse, the performance is fantastic. For example, open a set of web bookmarks in Tabs and flick the mouse surface backwards or forwards to go to next or previous page. Flick past the top level and it takes you back to the previous set of tabs! I had to try this several times backwards and forwards instantaneously between sets of dozens of websites before I really believed it was doing this.
Don't listen to any of those holdouts saying that a matte screen is better. I ran the iMac27 next to a 23HD display, which looked so dull I couldn't take side-by-side photos (well I could and did- if exposed for the ACHD the iMac27 flares out, if exposed for the iMac27 the ACHD looks like it's switched off). Plus the 27-inch screen makes the 23-inch Cinema Display look TINY! With a tuner, the iMac27 is now my HDTV. Only comment is that the sound is very good as a PC, but it is reflected off the desktop, if you sit further away it sounds too quiet - plug the audio into your HiFi.
Connection with a possible Apple Tablet? The triple combination of Speed, Screen and Touch makes the iMac27 with Magic Mouse a very different and more enjoyable computing experience than any Mac, Windows or Linux PC I have ever used. Just imagine what they can do with a format that is 10-years younger than the OS X desktop PC.
I second that!
I know this story doesn't leave us with much (or any) indication that this is a mid-cycle update issue, but I do want to remind those reading this thread that there are plenty of Apple customers ? mostly design professionals like myself ? who are incredibly upset by the lack of matte option on the new iMacs. I don't wish for any bad fortune at Apple, but I am hopeful that their troubles with the newest generation iMacs cause them to re-evaluate its design and structure, and possibly re-instate a matte / anti-glare option for those who are willing to pay for it.
As a design professional, what is the problem (as you see it) with the iMac design and structure?
(just curious)
some things to note
1. Apple doesn't have to tell the public anything about why delivery times have changed. No law requires it.
2. 99% of the time, reports of defects are highly exaggerated due to the simple fact that folks with a problem will always talk, talk loud and talk everywhere they can. But folks without a problem are too busy having fun to bother chiming in. So what might seem like a huge issue rarely is. Especially when there's not an immediate response. in fact the only reason this display issue got hot so fast is because a couple of the machines went to bloggers who will always scream when they have a problem and rally others to do so.
3. Apple doesn't speculate. They state. When they know what the problem is, they give an answer. Sometimes it takes a couple of rounds (we are currently in round two). But they are working on the problem. There is likely no law that requires them to state to the public every step, test and result. The law is just that they fix the situation. How they do that isn't in the law, just that they do
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I was one of the first to get the iMac 27"; it arrived within 24 hours! And no hardware issues to speak of (sleep, took a while sometimes and my right mouse button (the virtual one) disappeared sometimes; but all is fixed with the latest updates), its performance and ease of use is the best I experienced ever!
J.
Remember, Apple is very low on the list of market share compared to other computer companies like Dell, HP and even Leveno (who do offer matte screens).
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Steve understands that, and that's why there are some matte options, hopefully he is researching the issue and will come up with a reflection and glare free glass that we all can enjoy.
I understand completely, your paid to spew FUD (or otherwise willfully misinformed, with the same effect).
To respond to your remarks (only to DE-FUD), your wrong, Apple has the biggest share of all 1000$ + computers, and thats what brings in the dollars.
I'm sending my 27" back tomorrow. I've called Apple but they haven't been able to resolve the screen flickering which freezes my computer and forces a hard restart. I wish they'd resolve this problem already
I don't blame you for sending it back because there really doesn't seem to be any progress on the problem and you payed alot of money. With my situation they were fairly certain it was either a software of firmware issue and it simply needed to be resolved so I was willing to wait it out. But in this case I think I would have also returned the system.
By the way, not to toot my horn, but it was I that got personally in touch with Steve Jobs and he brought back the 15" matte screen MacBook Pro models a few weeks later.
Prove it.
Prove it.
I love when members on this forum talk about Steve Jobs as if they actually know him. It ranks up there with people that own 2 shares of Apple stock calling themselves sharholders. It just cracks me up.
perhaps there is an upgrade that Apple has made to some feature and will be included with new imacs, but since they are going to announce it at the upcoming event and include it in all imacs sold after a certain day, they are delaying any receipt until after the event.
or maybe they are just having supply side issues
I bet that you're right.
It's stupid of Apple to fracture their tiny niche even further by alienating nearly half of present computer customers with annoying glare and reflections.
Obviously the millions including me buying glossy screens don't really care for matte like you think they do. They'd prefer the glossy screen compared to the matte, because it offers so much better color. Plus, the reflection is really not that bad, unless you have OCD when you turn off the screen or something. Sometimes I do agree... MacTripper is an alias for Teckstud. BTW, like another poster said, they own 93% of the $1000+ computers, so you can't say that professionals don't care for glossy, because obviously they pick glossy... and then buy them
Obviously the millions including me buying glossy screens don't really care for matte like you think they do. They'd prefer the glossy screen compared to the matte, because it offers so much better color. Plus, the reflection is really not that bad, unless you have OCD when you turn off the screen or something. Sometimes I do agree... MacTripper is an alias for Teckstud. BTW, like another poster said, they own 93% of the $1000+ computers, so you can't say that professionals don't care for glossy, because obviously they pick glossy... and then buy them
There is a segment of professionals that don't care for glossy but they wouldn't be buying iMacs or MBP anyways. They would in most cases be using a MacPro with the display of their choice.
Apple users talk about this like it has only happened on the Apple side. On the PC side its next to impossible to find any notebook that uses a matte screen anymore for the exception of some netbooks. On the desktop side then you have the option to select any monitor you want.
I do however believe that it wouldn't take much for Apple to offer their MBP line with a matte screen option even if it was only a BTO option. Then at least they could have some solid data to see if they really were losing business by not offering a matte option.
I love when members on this forum talk about Steve Jobs as if they actually know him. It ranks up there with people that own 2 shares of Apple stock calling themselves sharholders. It just cracks me up.
1) So people that hold shares in a company are not shareholders?
2) How many shares does one need to have before you would consider them shareholders?
3) Your arrogance in thinking that people who aren?t as heavily invested as others means they shouldn?t be as concerned about their investment is pathetic. I think that is a low, even for you.
2. 99% of the time, reports of defects are highly exaggerated due to the simple fact that folks with a problem will always talk, talk loud and talk everywhere they can. But folks without a problem are too busy having fun to bother chiming in. So what might seem like a huge issue rarely is. Especially when there's not an immediate response. in fact the only reason this display issue got hot so fast is because a couple of the machines went to bloggers who will always scream when they have a problem and rally others to do so.
Well, this is not the case this time. Many resellers are telling their customers that Apple itself told them about delays because of quality problems. I'm sure that Apple stats are telling the same. The iMac thread at their support discussion forums is one of the longest in that forum history!
It is not only a problem of flickering: the major problem is that of the yellowish discoloration in the bottom half of the screen, a problem so common that there's people who got 4 replacement in a row, all with the same problem (Apple instructions are to ask for a replacement until you get a good one). There are also the noise problems coming when the lcd brightness is dimmed or put to top, the HD noise and the iSight dead pixels (an average of more than 20).
Anyway, Apple is replacing units, and also sending out refunds, so their support to people with problems is excellent! Anyway it is not that good that all that problems went into production, far more than any other rev a product. Especially because this is the best iMac ever from all pow, and this issues may give a bad image to some new customers.