Who cares about all of this? What Apple needs to do is quickly revamp the UI for both the iPhone/iPod and iPad to look like Windows Phone Series 7, 2010 Contiguous US Edition.
I've seen the future of consumer-touch UIs—and this is IT!
Not everything has to be a clone of each other and Microsoft is actually really good at making pretty UI's that look good in press shots and feel good during their first use but I find that navigating them can be rather frustrating. Believe it or not, I find Microsoft UI design to be form over function whereas Apple focuses a lot more on function, but they still look good.
PS. If iPhone OS gets widgets, there will be some changes in the UI design. It won't be a windows clone though.
Hmmm, maybe we'll see Dashboard on the iPad? Four finger pinch-in to "Zoom" into Dashboard, Reverse the pinch to zoom out. The iPad's screen should be large enough to accommodate several widgets.
Well maybe not with that interface but a Dashboard like feature none the less. Personally I'd like to see native dasboard apps myself. Better yet Dashboard needs to run as a process to keep all those applets updated. Ideally Dashboard would even get a few CPU cycles in sleep mode. This so that the applets have valid data at the transition to normal mode.
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Would love to have a calculator and dictionary widget available at all times.
Yes exactly! Even an accurate stop watch program would be nice. Believe it or not these apps are the ones that cause me to whip out my iPhone at work even if 3G or WiFi isn't available. Each one comes in very handy even when at a computer. The only qualification here is that the Dashboard apps would have to be of a higher quality than some of the current Mac OS Dasboard apps.
In this case I'm kinda equating quality with more features. For example the calculator ought to be full featured scientific and other functions. A dictionary should work as good or better than the Dictionary.com app on my iPhone.
Of course the neat thing about Dashboard is that it is fairly easy to produce your own. Hopefully it is as easy to install them on iPad. Even so I'd like to see the three mentioned here supported and maintained by Apple.
You could search the whole of the world wide web and you would not find one person who was eager to have the Apple Dictionary in iPhone OS.
It is not that the dictionary is a perfect implementation but rather it's integration with the OS as a whole that makes it useful. So yeah eager would be close to the emotion seen here.
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I don't know what it's doing in Desktop Mac OS X to be honest.
Most pointless "feature" ever.
it is a very handy feature. The integration is truly useful.
Hmmm, maybe we'll see Dashboard on the iPad? Four finger pinch-in to "Zoom" into Dashboard, Reverse the pinch to zoom out. The iPad's screen should be large enough to accommodate several widgets.
Would love to have a calculator and dictionary widget available at all times.
I really like the idea of setting urls to launch apps, and not web pages for some things. Althoguh, they would ha eto actually fix the facebook app so it doe sthings like show comments and what not.
One example is the iPhone's Contact app, which is internally called MobileAddressBook. In the new iPad SDK, it has morphed into an app referred to a LittleBrownBook. SpringBoard, which is the internal name of the app that runs the Home screen icons, uses the app tag "stand-alone-contacts" for this new app.
The stand alone Contacts app in iPhone OS has always been referred to as "stand-alone-contacts". In iPhone OS 1.0, there was no stand-alone Contacts app, it was just built into the Phone app.
You know the graphics are ALWAYS in the news story on the front page and have not been in the Kasper's Automated Slave forum posts for oh, the last 5 years or so...
Who cares about all of this? What Apple needs to do is quickly revamp the UI for both the iPhone/iPod and iPad to look like Windows Phone Series 7, 2010 Contiguous US Edition.
I've seen the future of consumer-touch UIs?and this is IT!
Is that a joke? That new UI is a huge FAIL. What the hell does a hub mean anyway? Can you explain how that's any better than what's being used now on the iPhone? I still yet to meet anyone who can explain how the hub works or how it's better. Can you?
What I DO notice is that their blocky icons looks awful. Second, the functions look confusing because the icons are basically the same. Also, everything about the Zune UI looks like it was developed by a retarded person. From the jumbo weird words scrolling across the top the the blocky menu icons that look the same. It's just bad all around.
Is that a joke? That new UI is a huge FAIL. What the hell does a hub mean anyway? Can you explain how that's any better than what's being used now on the iPhone? I still yet to meet anyone who can explain how the hub works or how it's better. Can you?
What I DO notice is that their blocky icons looks awful. Second, the functions look confusing because the icons are basically the same. Also, everything about the Zune UI looks like it was developed by a retarded person. From the jumbo weird words scrolling across the top the the blocky menu icons that look the same. It's just bad all around.
Yeah surly your are joking, the iPhone OS has a beautiful UI, and for other companies it's a "oh I wish we had thought of that, how close can we make ours before getting sued".
Microsoft's UI is different, so I'll give them that. It's also very blocky and almost like they got a print designer in, who ended up creating a leaflet that the user has to swipe across, and a lot of it doesn't even fit on the screen. Also Microsoft loves branding, so when they create standard icons, you get a couple of odd ones because they have to look a certain way. Xbox, IE Office etc.
In defence of columbus (having seen several posters seemingly missing the point), I assume that what he or she was talking about was the Apple Dictionary as opposed to the New Oxford American Dictionary, the Oxford American Writer?s Thesaurus or one of the three Japanese dictionaries (see the screenshot in the article); I completely agree that all these ordinary dictionaries can be very useful, and I regularly use ctrl-cmd-D to look up words in NOAD (in applications where this works).
The Apple Dictionary, which you can get to by clicking on the Apple button in Dictionary.app, is a glossary of mostly Apple- or Mac OS X-related terms ? a few hundred or so of them. I can safely say that I?ve never felt inclined to go there as a first source of information. The exact same dictionary would be even more pointless on an iPhone or iPad, as the interface is different and many of the terms have no relevance there. (I imagine that a dictionary of this sort could be useful for novice computer users ? if only they knew where to look!)
Still, it?s only a tiny dictionary, so hardly a great waste of space.
Yeah surly your are joking, the iPhone OS has a beautiful UI, and for other companies it's a "oh I wish we had thought of that, how close can we make ours before getting sued".
Microsoft's UI is different, so I'll give them that. It's also very blocky and almost like they got a print designer in, who ended up creating a leaflet that the user has to swipe across, and a lot of it doesn't even fit on the screen. Also Microsoft loves branding, so when they create standard icons, you get a couple of odd ones because they have to look a certain way. Xbox, IE Office etc.
I'm afraid that with his 'Widgets' suggestion based on finding the term 'stand-alone-contacts' as being something different from the 'little brown book', Daniel jumps too conclusions again.
It's a lot more probable that you can have stand-alone-contacts on your homescreen, which open specific contact screens within the Addressbook app, next to the little-brown-book, which opens the Addressbook app as your collection of contact data.
Especially since this feature has been rumored for several months now.
Apple just keeps us looking out for more. It seems like every week there's some new revelation about the iPad and it's supposed features and functions. It will be interesting to see how everything pans out over the next few months.
Yeah surly your are joking, the iPhone OS has a beautiful UI, and for other companies it's a "oh I wish we had thought of that, how close can we make ours before getting sued".
Microsoft's UI is different, so I'll give them that. It's also very blocky and almost like they got a print designer in, who ended up creating a leaflet that the user has to swipe across, and a lot of it doesn't even fit on the screen. Also Microsoft loves branding, so when they create standard icons, you get a couple of odd ones because they have to look a certain way. Xbox, IE Office etc.
Ugly office branding
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Whereas you don't appear to understand the fluidity of Microsoft's WinPho7s/Metro interface, there are also those who find Apple's 'blocky' and static grid of identically size icons seriously lacking both aesthetically and functionally in comparison.
WinPho7s/Metro (as based on the ZUNE HD UI) effectively guides its user on a visually dynamic virtual journey through their smartphone information, showing small hints , via the use of over-sized/cut-off text and arrows, to entice the user into the next level of information. It's like a GPS for data/information, and it's works brilliantly on the ZUNE HD, and appears even more thoroughly realized here.
Apple's mobile UI works well as a simple app/widget launcher, but seems rather dated in comparison as there's very little cohesion, either visually or functionally, which is to be expected on such a 'modal' system.
Personally, I always got the impression that with the iPhone/Touch IU, Apple was clearly inspired by those old scratch n' Sniff sticker cards from the early 1970s (as depicted below):
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Who cares about all of this? What Apple needs to do is quickly revamp the UI for both the iPhone/iPod and iPad to look like Windows Phone Series 7, 2010 Contiguous US Edition.
I've seen the future of consumer-touch UIs—and this is IT!
Not everything has to be a clone of each other and Microsoft is actually really good at making pretty UI's that look good in press shots and feel good during their first use but I find that navigating them can be rather frustrating. Believe it or not, I find Microsoft UI design to be form over function whereas Apple focuses a lot more on function, but they still look good.
PS. If iPhone OS gets widgets, there will be some changes in the UI design. It won't be a windows clone though.
Hmmm, maybe we'll see Dashboard on the iPad? Four finger pinch-in to "Zoom" into Dashboard, Reverse the pinch to zoom out. The iPad's screen should be large enough to accommodate several widgets.
Well maybe not with that interface but a Dashboard like feature none the less. Personally I'd like to see native dasboard apps myself. Better yet Dashboard needs to run as a process to keep all those applets updated. Ideally Dashboard would even get a few CPU cycles in sleep mode. This so that the applets have valid data at the transition to normal mode.
Would love to have a calculator and dictionary widget available at all times.
Yes exactly! Even an accurate stop watch program would be nice. Believe it or not these apps are the ones that cause me to whip out my iPhone at work even if 3G or WiFi isn't available. Each one comes in very handy even when at a computer. The only qualification here is that the Dashboard apps would have to be of a higher quality than some of the current Mac OS Dasboard apps.
In this case I'm kinda equating quality with more features. For example the calculator ought to be full featured scientific and other functions. A dictionary should work as good or better than the Dictionary.com app on my iPhone.
Of course the neat thing about Dashboard is that it is fairly easy to produce your own. Hopefully it is as easy to install them on iPad. Even so I'd like to see the three mentioned here supported and maintained by Apple.
Dave
You could search the whole of the world wide web and you would not find one person who was eager to have the Apple Dictionary in iPhone OS.
It is not that the dictionary is a perfect implementation but rather it's integration with the OS as a whole that makes it useful. So yeah eager would be close to the emotion seen here.
I don't know what it's doing in Desktop Mac OS X to be honest.
Most pointless "feature" ever.
it is a very handy feature. The integration is truly useful.
Dave
Hmmm, maybe we'll see Dashboard on the iPad? Four finger pinch-in to "Zoom" into Dashboard, Reverse the pinch to zoom out. The iPad's screen should be large enough to accommodate several widgets.
Would love to have a calculator and dictionary widget available at all times.
You're a legend.
One example is the iPhone's Contact app, which is internally called MobileAddressBook. In the new iPad SDK, it has morphed into an app referred to a LittleBrownBook. SpringBoard, which is the internal name of the app that runs the Home screen icons, uses the app tag "stand-alone-contacts" for this new app.
The stand alone Contacts app in iPhone OS has always been referred to as "stand-alone-contacts". In iPhone OS 1.0, there was no stand-alone Contacts app, it was just built into the Phone app.
Nice missing graphic there AI.
You know the graphics are ALWAYS in the news story on the front page and have not been in the Kasper's Automated Slave forum posts for oh, the last 5 years or so...
Who cares about all of this? What Apple needs to do is quickly revamp the UI for both the iPhone/iPod and iPad to look like Windows Phone Series 7, 2010 Contiguous US Edition.
I've seen the future of consumer-touch UIs?and this is IT!
Is that a joke? That new UI is a huge FAIL. What the hell does a hub mean anyway? Can you explain how that's any better than what's being used now on the iPhone? I still yet to meet anyone who can explain how the hub works or how it's better. Can you?
What I DO notice is that their blocky icons looks awful. Second, the functions look confusing because the icons are basically the same. Also, everything about the Zune UI looks like it was developed by a retarded person. From the jumbo weird words scrolling across the top the the blocky menu icons that look the same. It's just bad all around.
You could search the whole of the world wide web and you would not find one person who was eager to have the Apple Dictionary in iPhone OS.
I don't know what it's doing in Desktop Mac OS X to be honest.
Most pointless "feature" ever.
How is a Dictionary pointless, what a strange comment to make. Are you also unhappy about Mac's performing calculations?
Is that a joke? That new UI is a huge FAIL. What the hell does a hub mean anyway? Can you explain how that's any better than what's being used now on the iPhone? I still yet to meet anyone who can explain how the hub works or how it's better. Can you?
What I DO notice is that their blocky icons looks awful. Second, the functions look confusing because the icons are basically the same. Also, everything about the Zune UI looks like it was developed by a retarded person. From the jumbo weird words scrolling across the top the the blocky menu icons that look the same. It's just bad all around.
Yeah surly your are joking, the iPhone OS has a beautiful UI, and for other companies it's a "oh I wish we had thought of that, how close can we make ours before getting sued".
Microsoft's UI is different, so I'll give them that. It's also very blocky and almost like they got a print designer in, who ended up creating a leaflet that the user has to swipe across, and a lot of it doesn't even fit on the screen. Also Microsoft loves branding, so when they create standard icons, you get a couple of odd ones because they have to look a certain way. Xbox, IE Office etc.
Ugly office branding
The Apple Dictionary, which you can get to by clicking on the Apple button in Dictionary.app, is a glossary of mostly Apple- or Mac OS X-related terms ? a few hundred or so of them. I can safely say that I?ve never felt inclined to go there as a first source of information. The exact same dictionary would be even more pointless on an iPhone or iPad, as the interface is different and many of the terms have no relevance there. (I imagine that a dictionary of this sort could be useful for novice computer users ? if only they knew where to look!)
Still, it?s only a tiny dictionary, so hardly a great waste of space.
Yeah surly your are joking, the iPhone OS has a beautiful UI, and for other companies it's a "oh I wish we had thought of that, how close can we make ours before getting sued".
Microsoft's UI is different, so I'll give them that. It's also very blocky and almost like they got a print designer in, who ended up creating a leaflet that the user has to swipe across, and a lot of it doesn't even fit on the screen. Also Microsoft loves branding, so when they create standard icons, you get a couple of odd ones because they have to look a certain way. Xbox, IE Office etc.
Awful icons. Incoherent mess.
It's a lot more probable that you can have stand-alone-contacts on your homescreen, which open specific contact screens within the Addressbook app, next to the little-brown-book, which opens the Addressbook app as your collection of contact data.
Especially since this feature has been rumored for several months now.
http://www.iPadLot.com
Yeah surly your are joking, the iPhone OS has a beautiful UI, and for other companies it's a "oh I wish we had thought of that, how close can we make ours before getting sued".
Microsoft's UI is different, so I'll give them that. It's also very blocky and almost like they got a print designer in, who ended up creating a leaflet that the user has to swipe across, and a lot of it doesn't even fit on the screen. Also Microsoft loves branding, so when they create standard icons, you get a couple of odd ones because they have to look a certain way. Xbox, IE Office etc.
Ugly office branding
[CENTER]Conversely...
Whereas you don't appear to understand the fluidity of Microsoft's WinPho7s/Metro interface, there are also those who find Apple's 'blocky' and static grid of identically size icons seriously lacking both aesthetically and functionally in comparison.
WinPho7s/Metro (as based on the ZUNE HD UI) effectively guides its user on a visually dynamic virtual journey through their smartphone information, showing small hints , via the use of over-sized/cut-off text and arrows, to entice the user into the next level of information. It's like a GPS for data/information, and it's works brilliantly on the ZUNE HD, and appears even more thoroughly realized here.
Apple's mobile UI works well as a simple app/widget launcher, but seems rather dated in comparison as there's very little cohesion, either visually or functionally, which is to be expected on such a 'modal' system.
Personally, I always got the impression that with the iPhone/Touch IU, Apple was clearly inspired by those old scratch n' Sniff sticker cards from the early 1970s (as depicted below):
"Blocky You Say?[/CENTER]