LLVM 2.7 is in the final testing stages and will be released on April 5. The changes to Clang and the LLVM runtime impact the entire OS and the higher level tools.
I am pleased with OS 10.6.2. Forget now when I got it, but it is still new to me. Did an upgrade versus clean install. Everything is fine. Installed Rosetta and QT 7, just because I could. Didn't find QT 7 until I went to use Grab. QT 7 went to the Utilities folder.
I have to agree. There are those who will complain, just because they can. No one should ever expect FREE software programs to be perfect. If you want something better than QT X, go freaking buy it. Otherwise, put a sock in it.
The iLife suit is rather amazing for something that is also FREE to a Mac user. GarageBand does everything I want it to do and then some. Most of the other programs sit idle. If I didn't like GarageBand, it would be foolish to blame Apple. Again, I paid nothing for it. If I wanted a better application, shouldn't I go purchase it? Or should I come here and complain?
As far as I can tell, QT X is the first big change in the program for years. The interface looked very similar back in my OS 9 days. I don't have QT 7 Pro. I seldom use QT X. A little program called VLC works for me.
As for 10.6.3, it will get here, when it gets here. If you simply must have constant change, download Minefield. It updates nightly.
1) I can't believe Apple still charges $30 for the QT7 Pro access.
2) Give Movist a try. It's like VLC but with a Mac feel. it seems to play my MKVs better than VLC.
Thanks for the link. One of the reasons I don't care about QuickTime is, I am an audio guy. VLC Player has some quirks, but I mostly use it for playing streaming audio. Before iTunes was able to handle AAC HE (AAC+) streams, I learned about VLC.
I am not terribly fond of iTunes. It is what it is.
Every once in a while, I like programs in Linux more than anything in Mac or Windows.
Evolution Mail and Rhythmbox Music Player, to name a couple.
Exactly! As QT-X is a complete rewrite (just like OS-X), we're going to have to suffer through the growing pains. Not being a developer, I'm very curious to see just how "updated" it will be in this next release. And I'm not expecting miracles just yet; that's why we still have QT-7.
I like this thread ...
it has brought out some useful perspectives & inf that I did not know about relationship between QT7 and QTX.
1) I can't believe Apple still charges $30 for the QT7 Pro access.
2) Give Movist a try. It's like VLC but with a Mac feel. it seems to play my MKVs better than VLC.
Sad but true they still milk the $30 for QT Pro. One of my purchases of QTPro was only weeks before they came out with the next buy-me upgrade, and the Apple store reps were totally uncaring when I tried to request some kind of deal for the new version. sigh. no 'price-protection policy from Apple. oh well.
I will look into the Movist app you mention -- the review of it looks pretty promising.
If that wasn't the case I'd just use iMovie to stitch video and alter audio tracks.
iMovie has to convert your video to the timeline format on import, which loses quality and can (usually does) create huge files. Quicktime you just open the file, cut, cut and save as self-contained. You can do a quick edit in 10-15 minutes with no loss in quality.
Also, Quicktime X breaks a lot of plugins so if you rely on plugins like Perian or Flip4Mac, Quicktime 7 is still the preferred solution, although there are workarounds to get some plugins to work in QTX.
iMovie has to convert your video to the timeline format on import, which loses quality and can (usually does) create huge files. Quicktime you just open the file, cut, cut and save as self-contained. You can do a quick edit in 10-15 minutes with no loss in quality.
I agree that QT7 Pro is great for quick stitching ? I also use it for extracting audio quickly ? but I don't see spending $30 for Pro key as an ideal or likely solution for more than a very small fraction of Mac users. Not when QT7 Pro was current and certainly not now so I don't see this as a loss, especially when QT7 is included with Snow Leopard.
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Also, Quicktime X breaks a lot of plugins so if you rely on plugins like Perian or Flip4Mac, Quicktime 7 is still the preferred solution, although there are workarounds to get some plugins to work in QTX.
I've heard that yet I've had absolutely no issues with Perian. I'm assuming the codecs are still mostly 32-bit as Activity Monitor shows QTKitServer-(11436) QuickTime Player Intel without the 64-bit qualifier when playing an AVI.
As for Flip4Mac, I don't come across many Windows Media files these days but I have since made WMV/WMA and FLV files open with Movist since the load time and scrubbing is instant. I have no idea why this is possible in other players but not through QuickTime.
PS: Because if I don't mention it someone else will... Yes, the Perian pref pane is 64-bit.
What most people fail to realize is that QuickTime X is a complete and total rewrite of QuickTime from the ground up, starting from scratch. As such, it should be viewed as a 1.0 release. It will take time for it to become a fully viable replacement for QuickTime 7.x, which probably still contains 19 year old code from the original QuickTime 1.0 (which was first released in 1991).
Apple acknowledges the fact that QuickTime X is not yet fully capable of replacing QuickTime 7.x by including QuickTime 7 alongside QuickTime X in Snow Leopard. This is no different than Apple allowing Mac OS 9 to run alongside Mac OS X when OS X was first introduced.
Now QTkit works reasonably most of the time but with some codecs (like whatever goes into the WMV format) can have problems unless you "force" it to chose one (Quicktime X in this case).
The way I have always looked at it is this: if it's not broken, don't fix it. That is why I tend to get a bit nervous when I'm running an OS, 10.6.2 for instance, that works flawlessly for me. I'm sure 10.6.3 will be fine, but unless someone is having numerous unexplainable kernel attacks or something of the sort, then I do not see the reason for "needing" it now.
But that's just me. If it makes the system a little snappier or zippier, then hey, I'll consider a nice bonus from Apple. They did a great job with SL. I don't believe it was prematurely released as some have insisted. Again, that's my opinion based on longterm experience.
The biggest issue I've seen with SL, and the latest 10.6.2 is that my iCal and Mail just crash without notice. Not sure if it's an Exchange thing, or not. I've deleted the preferences files, and re-created the accounts, with no change at all.
Anyone else experience this? Hopefully 10.6.3 will fix it [not sure if it's really a bug, or its me].
Hopefully this will fix some issues I've been having with OS X lately.
You must be thinking of Tiger. Ever since Leopard they're interface has been pretty dang consistent ever since they unified the toolbars.
Right...
QTX is consistent with other apps how? iTunes is consistent with other apps how? Have you checked out the font spacing when selecting Help in the Finder menu bar? A seperate desktop for widgets??? Stacks is consistent how??? Sometimes I get the stopwatch, sometimes the spinning beach ball etc. etc. ad naseum.
1) What is the cut off for SW updates for the PWN2OWN competition?
2) Isn't it the web browser that is the real security risk, not the OS itself.
Actually that is interesting because Charlie Miller has reported to have found 20 zero-day exploits in Mac OS X, which is noted as a record-breaking number of exploits. They relate to closed source components in OS X and Flash was mentioned along with mdnsresponder.
If any number of these exploits can be delivered remotely and not via social engineering, it's quite worrying. It kinda makes you wonder why Miller is the only one finding these holes though. You'd think there's got to be a huge community out there dying to take the platform down a notch and yet they haven't found or taken advantage of the holes.
QTX is consistent with other apps how? iTunes is consistent with other apps how? Have you checked out the font spacing when selecting Help in the Finder menu bar? A seperate desktop for widgets??? Stacks is consistent how??? Sometimes I get the stopwatch, sometimes the spinning beach ball etc. etc. ad naseum.
You will never get what you want because that is not how Apple's software development works. They use their apps to test out new user interfaces and software ideas. The sidebar in iTunes, Core Image, OpenCL, the segmented round progress indicator, etc all got their start in various applications. Apple tries things in different apps, and if they work well they eventually move them out to their public frameworks for everyone else to use. They are testing a new interface with QTX, one in which the widgets and administrative debris is not always visible. If they like it and it is a benefit to users they will expand that interface to other parts of the system. To demand a 100% consistent interface from Apple is to demand the end of their software innovation.
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Interesting thought, but I have two concerns...
Since Webkit is open source it is much easier to look at than closed work, so yes in that narrow sense it is a much greater security target.
BTW, our friend Charlie has announced 20 security exploits for MacOS X to be discussed next week.
I have to agree. There are those who will complain, just because they can. No one should ever expect FREE software programs to be perfect. If you want something better than QT X, go freaking buy it. Otherwise, put a sock in it.
The iLife suit is rather amazing for something that is also FREE to a Mac user. GarageBand does everything I want it to do and then some. Most of the other programs sit idle. If I didn't like GarageBand, it would be foolish to blame Apple. Again, I paid nothing for it. If I wanted a better application, shouldn't I go purchase it? Or should I come here and complain?
As far as I can tell, QT X is the first big change in the program for years. The interface looked very similar back in my OS 9 days. I don't have QT 7 Pro. I seldom use QT X. A little program called VLC works for me.
As for 10.6.3, it will get here, when it gets here. If you simply must have constant change, download Minefield. It updates nightly.
I don't have QT 7 Pro. I seldom use QT X. A little program called VLC works for me.
1) I can't believe Apple still charges $30 for the QT7 Pro access.
2) Give Movist a try. It's like VLC but with a Mac feel. it seems to play my MKVs better than VLC.
1) I can't believe Apple still charges $30 for the QT7 Pro access.
2) Give Movist a try. It's like VLC but with a Mac feel. it seems to play my MKVs better than VLC.
Thanks for the link. One of the reasons I don't care about QuickTime is, I am an audio guy. VLC Player has some quirks, but I mostly use it for playing streaming audio. Before iTunes was able to handle AAC HE (AAC+) streams, I learned about VLC.
I am not terribly fond of iTunes. It is what it is.
Every once in a while, I like programs in Linux more than anything in Mac or Windows.
Evolution Mail and Rhythmbox Music Player, to name a couple.
For the love of God! Please come up with a consistent interface in 10.7 and STICK WITH IT!!!
You must be thinking of Tiger. Ever since Leopard they're interface has been pretty dang consistent ever since they unified the toolbars.
Exactly! As QT-X is a complete rewrite (just like OS-X), we're going to have to suffer through the growing pains. Not being a developer, I'm very curious to see just how "updated" it will be in this next release. And I'm not expecting miracles just yet; that's why we still have QT-7.
I like this thread ...
it has brought out some useful perspectives & inf that I did not know about relationship between QT7 and QTX.
1) I can't believe Apple still charges $30 for the QT7 Pro access.
2) Give Movist a try. It's like VLC but with a Mac feel. it seems to play my MKVs better than VLC.
Sad but true they still milk the $30 for QT Pro. One of my purchases of QTPro was only weeks before they came out with the next buy-me upgrade, and the Apple store reps were totally uncaring when I tried to request some kind of deal for the new version. sigh. no 'price-protection policy from Apple. oh well.
I will look into the Movist app you mention -- the review of it looks pretty promising.
For the love of God! Please come up with a consistent interface in 10.7 and STICK WITH IT!!!
Speaking o future versions, it seems like OS XI (or whatever they would name it) is only a couple of years away. Wonder what it'll be like...
If that wasn't the case I'd just use iMovie to stitch video and alter audio tracks.
iMovie has to convert your video to the timeline format on import, which loses quality and can (usually does) create huge files. Quicktime you just open the file, cut, cut and save as self-contained. You can do a quick edit in 10-15 minutes with no loss in quality.
Also, Quicktime X breaks a lot of plugins so if you rely on plugins like Perian or Flip4Mac, Quicktime 7 is still the preferred solution, although there are workarounds to get some plugins to work in QTX.
iMovie has to convert your video to the timeline format on import, which loses quality and can (usually does) create huge files. Quicktime you just open the file, cut, cut and save as self-contained. You can do a quick edit in 10-15 minutes with no loss in quality.
I agree that QT7 Pro is great for quick stitching ? I also use it for extracting audio quickly ? but I don't see spending $30 for Pro key as an ideal or likely solution for more than a very small fraction of Mac users. Not when QT7 Pro was current and certainly not now so I don't see this as a loss, especially when QT7 is included with Snow Leopard.
Also, Quicktime X breaks a lot of plugins so if you rely on plugins like Perian or Flip4Mac, Quicktime 7 is still the preferred solution, although there are workarounds to get some plugins to work in QTX.
I've heard that yet I've had absolutely no issues with Perian. I'm assuming the codecs are still mostly 32-bit as Activity Monitor shows QTKitServer-(11436) QuickTime Player Intel without the 64-bit qualifier when playing an AVI.
As for Flip4Mac, I don't come across many Windows Media files these days but I have since made WMV/WMA and FLV files open with Movist since the load time and scrubbing is instant. I have no idea why this is possible in other players but not through QuickTime.
PS: Because if I don't mention it someone else will... Yes, the Perian pref pane is 64-bit.
What most people fail to realize is that QuickTime X is a complete and total rewrite of QuickTime from the ground up, starting from scratch. As such, it should be viewed as a 1.0 release. It will take time for it to become a fully viable replacement for QuickTime 7.x, which probably still contains 19 year old code from the original QuickTime 1.0 (which was first released in 1991).
Apple acknowledges the fact that QuickTime X is not yet fully capable of replacing QuickTime 7.x by including QuickTime 7 alongside QuickTime X in Snow Leopard. This is no different than Apple allowing Mac OS 9 to run alongside Mac OS X when OS X was first introduced.
Ars Technica in their August 31, 2009 article
"Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard: the Ars Technica review, Quicktime X" went over the details how QTkit uses both Quicktime X (64-bit) and Quicktime 7.x (32-bit).
Now QTkit works reasonably most of the time but with some codecs (like whatever goes into the WMV format) can have problems unless you "force" it to chose one (Quicktime X in this case).
But that's just me. If it makes the system a little snappier or zippier, then hey, I'll consider a nice bonus from Apple. They did a great job with SL. I don't believe it was prematurely released as some have insisted. Again, that's my opinion based on longterm experience.
Anyone else experience this? Hopefully 10.6.3 will fix it [not sure if it's really a bug, or its me].
Hopefully this will fix some issues I've been having with OS X lately.
You must be thinking of Tiger. Ever since Leopard they're interface has been pretty dang consistent ever since they unified the toolbars.
Right...
QTX is consistent with other apps how? iTunes is consistent with other apps how? Have you checked out the font spacing when selecting Help in the Finder menu bar? A seperate desktop for widgets??? Stacks is consistent how??? Sometimes I get the stopwatch, sometimes the spinning beach ball etc. etc. ad naseum.
Interesting thought, but I have two concerns...
Actually that is interesting because Charlie Miller has reported to have found 20 zero-day exploits in Mac OS X, which is noted as a record-breaking number of exploits. They relate to closed source components in OS X and Flash was mentioned along with mdnsresponder.
If any number of these exploits can be delivered remotely and not via social engineering, it's quite worrying. It kinda makes you wonder why Miller is the only one finding these holes though. You'd think there's got to be a huge community out there dying to take the platform down a notch and yet they haven't found or taken advantage of the holes.
Right...
QTX is consistent with other apps how? iTunes is consistent with other apps how? Have you checked out the font spacing when selecting Help in the Finder menu bar? A seperate desktop for widgets??? Stacks is consistent how??? Sometimes I get the stopwatch, sometimes the spinning beach ball etc. etc. ad naseum.
You will never get what you want because that is not how Apple's software development works. They use their apps to test out new user interfaces and software ideas. The sidebar in iTunes, Core Image, OpenCL, the segmented round progress indicator, etc all got their start in various applications. Apple tries things in different apps, and if they work well they eventually move them out to their public frameworks for everyone else to use. They are testing a new interface with QTX, one in which the widgets and administrative debris is not always visible. If they like it and it is a benefit to users they will expand that interface to other parts of the system. To demand a 100% consistent interface from Apple is to demand the end of their software innovation.