Apple is not a an oppressive government that controls your every move. They are a company with specific rules and standards. You can enter and leave the Apple walled garden to your heart's content.
Apple doesn't govern your life. Your government does. I'd worry about *that* organization way before I'd worry about a tech company out to sell some products.
Apple has always been this secretive. If consumers and developers were unhappy, they'd go somewhere else. But that's not happening.
Standards, the only standard they have is to hire the cheapest contractor and tell you how to live your life.
The IPad on pictures and on stage i january probably has flaws. They were in developing. And they do not want any perception of the product to be shaded by flaws they know about and intend to remove.
How f--n hard can that be to understand?
And it's a proven success in terms of marketing aproach. You all may be tech nerds but cant you open the door to reality sometimes?
I believe you are 100% correct. These people were given pre-production units for testing. Apple doesn't want people to be reviewing these units and blogging about it on the net. They give production build devices to the selected reviewers just before the device releases. This allows them to have enough time to use the device and publish a story on or about release day.
This really isn't about keeping something secret. It is about giving the product a fair shot in the marketplace. It comes to market without people complaining about what are actually substandard prototypes, etc.
Well actually if you look at some of these companies Market Cap back in 1999-2001 if Apple had their current Market Cap compared to say MSFT or GE when they had a Market cap of over 500 billion they would be seen as as an underdog to some degree. The reality is Apple has had steady growth and has not suffered the beating many of these companies have over the years.
In many cases Apple looks even stronger because so many have taken major hits and look very weak. However as far as the future no one had a clue what the future holds even more so in the tech sector. So for someone to try and base it on history is pointless.
IBM is and was a blue chip company and Apple was still a fledging company building for a fledging market. It's not that hard to see how IBM was considered big Brother in the ad and how that wouldn't work today in relation to Apple's position in the market. It's not that hard.
No, they won't. This is just typical Apple secrecy. If you remember, there was literally NO ONE outside of Apple that had their hands on iPhone before 6 PM EST on June 29, 2007.
I thought Mossberg and Pogue had one for the week or two preceeding. Or do you mean no devs?
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Originally Posted by iLuv
Exactly. I'm GLAD that no softwear will ruin my iPhone because I can only buy it from Apple!
I wish that my Mac was the same way, and that the only softwear it run's is available at the iTunes Store.
That would be the best.
That's interesting. What software have you used that ruined your Mac?
People, people! Get a grip here. This is TEKSTUD we're dealing with, and possibly a sock puppet of iGenius. His intent is not to make sense. His intent is to post stupid stuff and wait for the reaction. This inflates his self esteem and ego. It's what he lives for. It's all he has.
But I had to reply. He mixed three different metaphors at once and unknowingly used a gay reference when he himself is a complete homophobe.
Some troll-bait is simply too delicious to overlook IMO.
Woah. If even half of that is true, that explains things.
My apologies if I'm wrong, of course, but the giddy, over the top "It's good that Apple is taking our first born, I'll have more children to staff their salt mines out of gratitude to their largess!" tone just strikes me as a kind of broad parody of the "fan boy", as enacted by someone who thinks we're all idiots.
People, people! Get a grip here. This is TEKSTUD we're dealing with, and possibly a sock puppet of iGenius. His intent is not to make sense. His intent is to post stupid stuff and wait for the reaction. This inflates his self esteem and ego. It's what he lives for. It's all he has.
What gets me is: Why do these useless disruptors that constantly inject negative energy continue to be on AI? Don't the owners/mods have any self-interest in keeping these guys out?
The threads were generally so informative and interesting these past few weeks, with guys like these Banned. Now I am back to..... sigh.....
People, people! Get a grip here. This is TEKSTUD we're dealing with, and possibly a sock puppet of iGenius. His intent is not to make sense. His intent is to post stupid stuff and wait for the reaction. This inflates his self esteem and ego. It's what he lives for. It's all he has.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
But I had to reply. He mixed three different metaphors at once and unknowingly used a gay reference when he himself is a complete homophobe.
Some troll-bait is simply too delicious to overlook IMO.
you two sound like you're trying to crack the DaVinci code. Keep trying.
Note that iGenius got banned the morning of 3/12; iLuv began posting the next afternoon.
One of his first posts, in a thread about Tim Cook getting a 5 millions dollar bonus, was
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Tim is agood man. I'm glad that in some smll way, my purcases from apple are going to help him. I'm glad that the money is in his pocket not mine
Which I think speaks for itself in terms of being a creditable bit of Apple boosterism.
I guess the "joke" is that someone claiming that Apple is always right and good and its every decision justified and all its rivals evil will fit right in and get people to agree, and then we'll be exposed as sheep because we didn't immediately call him out; I was just sort of ignoring it as background noise till JeffDM paused to question some typically outlandish assertion. Probably also some point about not getting banned for saying a lot of stupid nonsense as long as you come on like a transfixed Apple zealot.
Why anyone thinks that this is a productive use of their time is another matter, best left to professionals.
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Apple is not a an oppressive government that controls your every move. They are a company with specific rules and standards. You can enter and leave the Apple walled garden to your heart's content.
Apple doesn't govern your life. Your government does. I'd worry about *that* organization way before I'd worry about a tech company out to sell some products.
Apple has always been this secretive. If consumers and developers were unhappy, they'd go somewhere else. But that's not happening.
Standards, the only standard they have is to hire the cheapest contractor and tell you how to live your life.
The IPad on pictures and on stage i january probably has flaws. They were in developing. And they do not want any perception of the product to be shaded by flaws they know about and intend to remove.
How f--n hard can that be to understand?
And it's a proven success in terms of marketing aproach. You all may be tech nerds but cant you open the door to reality sometimes?
I believe you are 100% correct. These people were given pre-production units for testing. Apple doesn't want people to be reviewing these units and blogging about it on the net. They give production build devices to the selected reviewers just before the device releases. This allows them to have enough time to use the device and publish a story on or about release day.
This really isn't about keeping something secret. It is about giving the product a fair shot in the marketplace. It comes to market without people complaining about what are actually substandard prototypes, etc.
Well actually if you look at some of these companies Market Cap back in 1999-2001 if Apple had their current Market Cap compared to say MSFT or GE when they had a Market cap of over 500 billion they would be seen as as an underdog to some degree. The reality is Apple has had steady growth and has not suffered the beating many of these companies have over the years.
In many cases Apple looks even stronger because so many have taken major hits and look very weak. However as far as the future no one had a clue what the future holds even more so in the tech sector. So for someone to try and base it on history is pointless.
IBM is and was a blue chip company and Apple was still a fledging company building for a fledging market. It's not that hard to see how IBM was considered big Brother in the ad and how that wouldn't work today in relation to Apple's position in the market. It's not that hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8
Has it really been so long ago?
Has it really been so long ago?
Yes, it really has...
Oh what a headline can do. The MacRumors posting gives us a rather different impression of the situation.
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/19/...ricted-access/
Tell me about it. Look at the folks up in arms because AI chose to use the word ban in the Apple to ban film-based screen protectors from company stores.
And apparently now developers are being left handicapped.
Standards, the only standard they have is to hire the cheapest contractor and tell you how to live your life.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jge_X...eature=related
No, they won't. This is just typical Apple secrecy. If you remember, there was literally NO ONE outside of Apple that had their hands on iPhone before 6 PM EST on June 29, 2007.
I thought Mossberg and Pogue had one for the week or two preceeding. Or do you mean no devs?
Exactly. I'm GLAD that no softwear will ruin my iPhone because I can only buy it from Apple!
I wish that my Mac was the same way, and that the only softwear it run's is available at the iTunes Store.
That would be the best.
That's interesting. What software have you used that ruined your Mac?
That's interesting. What software have you used that ruined your Mac?
My guess is that iLuv is iGenius gone all in with the "Apple knows best" sarcasm.
People, people! Get a grip here. This is TEKSTUD we're dealing with, and possibly a sock puppet of iGenius. His intent is not to make sense. His intent is to post stupid stuff and wait for the reaction. This inflates his self esteem and ego. It's what he lives for. It's all he has.
But I had to reply. He mixed three different metaphors at once and unknowingly used a gay reference when he himself is a complete homophobe.
Some troll-bait is simply too delicious to overlook IMO.
My guess is that iLuv is iGenius gone all in with the "Apple knows best" sarcasm.
Woah. If even half of that is true, that explains things.
Woah. If even half of that is true, that explains things.
My apologies if I'm wrong, of course, but the giddy, over the top "It's good that Apple is taking our first born, I'll have more children to staff their salt mines out of gratitude to their largess!" tone just strikes me as a kind of broad parody of the "fan boy", as enacted by someone who thinks we're all idiots.
People, people! Get a grip here. This is TEKSTUD we're dealing with, and possibly a sock puppet of iGenius. His intent is not to make sense. His intent is to post stupid stuff and wait for the reaction. This inflates his self esteem and ego. It's what he lives for. It's all he has.
What gets me is: Why do these useless disruptors that constantly inject negative energy continue to be on AI? Don't the owners/mods have any self-interest in keeping these guys out?
The threads were generally so informative and interesting these past few weeks, with guys like these Banned. Now I am back to..... sigh.....
People, people! Get a grip here. This is TEKSTUD we're dealing with, and possibly a sock puppet of iGenius. His intent is not to make sense. His intent is to post stupid stuff and wait for the reaction. This inflates his self esteem and ego. It's what he lives for. It's all he has.
But I had to reply. He mixed three different metaphors at once and unknowingly used a gay reference when he himself is a complete homophobe.
Some troll-bait is simply too delicious to overlook IMO.
9:39 "Lisa 'Pads.' "
iPad.
Now it all makes sense.
OMG the Lisa had Minimize/Maximize!! Can we get this back in OS X, please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4BlmsN4q2I&feature=fvw
9:39 "Lisa 'Pads.' "
iPad.
Now it all makes sense.
OMG the Lisa had Minimize/Maximize!! Can we get this back in OS X, please?
Good catch!
My guess is that iLuv is iGenius gone all in with the "Apple knows best" sarcasm.
Agreed!
Agreed!
Note that iGenius got banned the morning of 3/12; iLuv began posting the next afternoon.
One of his first posts, in a thread about Tim Cook getting a 5 millions dollar bonus, was
Tim is agood man. I'm glad that in some smll way, my purcases from apple are going to help him. I'm glad that the money is in his pocket not mine
Which I think speaks for itself in terms of being a creditable bit of Apple boosterism.
I guess the "joke" is that someone claiming that Apple is always right and good and its every decision justified and all its rivals evil will fit right in and get people to agree, and then we'll be exposed as sheep because we didn't immediately call him out; I was just sort of ignoring it as background noise till JeffDM paused to question some typically outlandish assertion. Probably also some point about not getting banned for saying a lot of stupid nonsense as long as you come on like a transfixed Apple zealot.
Why anyone thinks that this is a productive use of their time is another matter, best left to professionals.