I hope that is the case but there seems to be more evidence that Apple has had nothing to do with LightPeak at all. I so rarely use my external display port or Ethernet that I'd love to be able to use it for other things.
Wait...ethernet is non-negotiable. It must remain there.
Wait...ethernet is non-negotiable. It must remain there.
I don't think that's a problem though. What I understand of LP is that it can be an Ethernet conduit, Firewire conduit, USB conduit, DisplayPort conduit or what have you. Think of it as an "internet" of ports, it can handle any protocol, you just need the appropriate endpoint for the need, and that can be in the form of an adapter.
Wait...ethernet is non-negotiable. It must remain there.
For now, but the future will eventually move to a protocol agnostic connection. Ethernet already has been able to use fiber for the physical medium. I don't expect any port to "go away" simply because Light Peak or a similar tech is added. I think it'll be added alongside and then as adoption takes place a switch off will occur where and when it's deemed most viable. Unfortunately, I think this will likely be based on consumer usage patterns, not on power usage patterns.
I don't think that's a problem though. What I understand of LP is that it can be an Ethernet conduit, Firewire conduit, USB conduit, DisplayPort conduit or what have you. Think of it as an "internet" of ports, it can handle any protocol, you just need the appropriate endpoint for the need, and that can be in the form of an adapter.
I understood it to mean that as well. What I said about the ethernet port was in the context of removing the optical drive, not adding LP. For the next revision I don't see LP coming, but could see the loss of the optical drives. In other words, don't take away the ethernet and miniDisplay port and add two extra USB3 ports.
I still get the feeling the next release will see the removal of one version of the Air, and have iSeries chips without integrated graphics. That is what we are waiting on.
There will be a Mac mini, MacBook, MacBook Pro 13", and one MB Air, all without Intel's integrated graphics. It is just taking time to get the production up. It makes no sense for those machines to use Intel's graphics.
Gah, just update the blasted things soon. A 2000 dollar 15 inch laptop with a Core 2 processor and a integrated 9400M is just calling your customers stupid. Sub-900 dollar laptops have gotten the Arrandale+discreet switchable graphics treatment already, FFS.
Also, I still want to know what they will do about the integrated graphics in the lower end models. The IGP on Arrandale is an improvement over Intel's other IGP's, but still falls short of the 9400m and so would be a downgrade in terms of graphics.
Me too. I'm thinking that my new work setup will be an iMac or mini + iPad instead of a laptop. All I use my laptop for is to hook up to a projector or presentation LCD and surf the Web from home.
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I hope that is the case but there seems to be more evidence that Apple has had nothing to do with LightPeak at all. I so rarely use my external display port or Ethernet that I'd love to be able to use it for other things.
Wait...ethernet is non-negotiable. It must remain there.
Wait...ethernet is non-negotiable. It must remain there.
I don't think that's a problem though. What I understand of LP is that it can be an Ethernet conduit, Firewire conduit, USB conduit, DisplayPort conduit or what have you. Think of it as an "internet" of ports, it can handle any protocol, you just need the appropriate endpoint for the need, and that can be in the form of an adapter.
Wait...ethernet is non-negotiable. It must remain there.
For now, but the future will eventually move to a protocol agnostic connection. Ethernet already has been able to use fiber for the physical medium. I don't expect any port to "go away" simply because Light Peak or a similar tech is added. I think it'll be added alongside and then as adoption takes place a switch off will occur where and when it's deemed most viable. Unfortunately, I think this will likely be based on consumer usage patterns, not on power usage patterns.
I don't think that's a problem though. What I understand of LP is that it can be an Ethernet conduit, Firewire conduit, USB conduit, DisplayPort conduit or what have you. Think of it as an "internet" of ports, it can handle any protocol, you just need the appropriate endpoint for the need, and that can be in the form of an adapter.
I understood it to mean that as well. What I said about the ethernet port was in the context of removing the optical drive, not adding LP. For the next revision I don't see LP coming, but could see the loss of the optical drives. In other words, don't take away the ethernet and miniDisplay port and add two extra USB3 ports.
I still get the feeling the next release will see the removal of one version of the Air, and have iSeries chips without integrated graphics. That is what we are waiting on.
There will be a Mac mini, MacBook, MacBook Pro 13", and one MB Air, all without Intel's integrated graphics. It is just taking time to get the production up. It makes no sense for those machines to use Intel's graphics.
Also, I still want to know what they will do about the integrated graphics in the lower end models. The IGP on Arrandale is an improvement over Intel's other IGP's, but still falls short of the 9400m and so would be a downgrade in terms of graphics.
I hope the Mini gets an upgrade to Arrandale too.
I hope the Mini gets an upgrade to Arrandale too.
Me too. I'm thinking that my new work setup will be an iMac or mini + iPad instead of a laptop. All I use my laptop for is to hook up to a projector or presentation LCD and surf the Web from home.