Incredible. We say over here that Americans lose their time in courts, but it's a clear understatement. This stupid case demonstrates that the whole patent system is becoming inefficient, as it allows morons to hamper overall innovation. Bummer.
No argument here -- holy horse hockey, B@tm@n!!!
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God, not another fishing expo
Oh, yes, another one! Seems to be a "lawsuit-of-the-month" club for Apple in East Texas. I wonder what the grand running tally for this nonsense happens to be... Anybody keeping score?
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Hey, who doesn't like fish?
A-hem... (I can't believe I'm quoting McDonald's!!!)
Curious, curious and curiouser. And just why has this company wait this long to file suit???? Did they notify any of the 22 named companies long ago that they were infringing on their patents?? Have they waited too long?? Only time will tell. May be one of the only times that these named companies may have to get along.
I agree. I'm thnking the solution is for patents to run out after so many years like they do for the drug companies. That way it will keep innovation moving along and companies can have their marketing edge for X number of years, but then these technologies can become part of the industrial landscape, and no one would own them after that point.
That's how it works now. The inventor must clearly and fully disclose in the application how the invention works. He then gets sole legal ability to make or license it for twenty years.
After the twenty years, the invention becomes free to anyone.
This suit, like Apple's against HTC and Nokia's against Apple, are frivolous and retarding technololgical advancements. Companies shouldn't be allowed to file these types of lawsuits.
Oh wait that was just Apple's lawsuit that's frivolous and retarding advancements.
For Apple...it's what goes around comes around....... They sue you sue...we all sue....it's my IP no! It's my IP no it's my IP....they only one sure to get paid are the lawyers......
For Apple...it's what goes around comes around....... They sue you sue...we all sue....it's my IP no! It's my IP no it's my IP....they only one sure to get paid are the lawyers......
Apple's suit is no different to every other moron who is suing them first. They're just getting in first this time.
If I was being sued for this I would be suing the lawyer who filed the suit for being a dickhead. Maybe then more cases of "dickhead" suing will stop these dickhead cases from existing.
I live in Texas. A bunch of us should get together and go out to East Texas and start building a dam to wall this friggin town in. I bet enough people would be willing to pitch in to get the place completely enclosed by year's end. What do you say?
I live in Texas. A bunch of us should get together and go out to East Texas and start building a dam to wall this friggin town in. I bet enough people would be willing to pitch in to get the place completely enclosed by year's end. What do you say?
Alternatively, get your friends together and file a class action against the court for the 'emotional distress and deep embarrassment' brought on you Texans by this mickey mouse operation. As far as I can tell, $18m seems to be the going rate in these type of cases.
To be honest I'm not going to rack my brain trying to read these patents but they might be valid. It is all about prior art. If so the company should defend them. At least they aren't trying to single Apple out.
The big problem here is proving validaty given that you have lawyers and judges involved. This technology is far removed from their educational back ground and all of it likely appears to be non obvious.
To be honest I'm not going to rack my brain trying to read these patents but they might be valid. It is all about prior art. If so the company should defend them. At least they aren't trying to single Apple out.
The big problem here is proving validaty given that you have lawyers and judges involved. This technology is far removed from their educational back ground and all of it likely appears to be non obvious.
Yes of course. I made a couple of flippant comments above, but IP has to have some protection for reasons that are well understood. This particularly applies the small guy in the face of Megacorps. Then on the other hand, vague generalised patents cause immense damage and hold back applied innovation to the detriment of all concerned except the plaintiff and both sets of lawyers, and the court itself of course. My cynicism here is this wretched court in east Texas. The argument for the ability to file a claim in your local court (which is being serially abused by this particular court) was established when it was not practical for people to travel great distances to file. These days it is possible. Perhaps there needs to be established one central institution, staffed by specialists that handles all IT IP suits. They would have the expertise to deal with each case without favour, but the idea that there is a 'homer' court is an affront to the justice system in my view.
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Incredible. We say over here that Americans lose their time in courts, but it's a clear understatement. This stupid case demonstrates that the whole patent system is becoming inefficient, as it allows morons to hamper overall innovation. Bummer.
No argument here -- holy horse hockey, B@tm@n!!!
God, not another fishing expo
Oh, yes, another one! Seems to be a "lawsuit-of-the-month" club for Apple in East Texas. I wonder what the grand running tally for this nonsense happens to be... Anybody keeping score?
Hey, who doesn't like fish?
A-hem... (I can't believe I'm quoting McDonald's!!!)
"Give me back that filet o fish
Give me that fish
Give me back that filet o fish
Give me that fish
What if it were you
Hanging up on this wall?
If it were you in that sandwich
You wouldn?t be laughing at all!"
ARM doesn't manufacture anything, just license out their designs.
This isn't about manufacturing. It's about the design. You don't see Nvidia in the suit and for sure their GPGPUs are doing all that is listed.
I agree. I'm thnking the solution is for patents to run out after so many years like they do for the drug companies. That way it will keep innovation moving along and companies can have their marketing edge for X number of years, but then these technologies can become part of the industrial landscape, and no one would own them after that point.
That's how it works now. The inventor must clearly and fully disclose in the application how the invention works. He then gets sole legal ability to make or license it for twenty years.
After the twenty years, the invention becomes free to anyone.
Did they notify any of the 22 named companies long ago that they were infringing on their patents??
They did, but were dismissed as crank callers, so to get attention a suit has to be filed.
... It's sort of like when we found out that 50% of the cost of a ladder is to cover personal injury lawsuits.
21% according to a 10-year old studies by American Tort Reform Association and the Public Policy Institute in New York. Still high, nonetheless.
They did, but were dismissed as crank callers, so to get attention a suit has to be filed.
Usually this is done in a form of a letter and not a phone call--that way you have a record of the notification.
Apple is one of a number of companies -- 22, to be exact
How about making that clear in the title?
"Mobile processor patent suit accuses Apple and others of 14 violations"
Mobile processor patent suit accuses Apple and 21 others of "violations"
Fixed that for you. (In more ways than one)
Oh wait that was just Apple's lawsuit that's frivolous and retarding advancements.
Did I do that right Windows fanbois?
At least we're not French.
Everybody has his weaknesses
If only you could buy shares in lawyers.
For Apple...it's what goes around comes around....... They sue you sue...we all sue....it's my IP no! It's my IP no it's my IP....they only one sure to get paid are the lawyers......
http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm
and enter the patent number to check out the patent.
For Apple...it's what goes around comes around....... They sue you sue...we all sue....it's my IP no! It's my IP no it's my IP....they only one sure to get paid are the lawyers......
Apple's suit is no different to every other moron who is suing them first. They're just getting in first this time.
If I was being sued for this I would be suing the lawyer who filed the suit for being a dickhead. Maybe then more cases of "dickhead" suing will stop these dickhead cases from existing.
I live in Texas. A bunch of us should get together and go out to East Texas and start building a dam to wall this friggin town in. I bet enough people would be willing to pitch in to get the place completely enclosed by year's end. What do you say?
Alternatively, get your friends together and file a class action against the court for the 'emotional distress and deep embarrassment' brought on you Texans by this mickey mouse operation. As far as I can tell, $18m seems to be the going rate in these type of cases.
The big problem here is proving validaty given that you have lawyers and judges involved. This technology is far removed from their educational back ground and all of it likely appears to be non obvious.
Dave
To be honest I'm not going to rack my brain trying to read these patents but they might be valid. It is all about prior art. If so the company should defend them. At least they aren't trying to single Apple out.
The big problem here is proving validaty given that you have lawyers and judges involved. This technology is far removed from their educational back ground and all of it likely appears to be non obvious.
Yes of course. I made a couple of flippant comments above, but IP has to have some protection for reasons that are well understood. This particularly applies the small guy in the face of Megacorps. Then on the other hand, vague generalised patents cause immense damage and hold back applied innovation to the detriment of all concerned except the plaintiff and both sets of lawyers, and the court itself of course. My cynicism here is this wretched court in east Texas. The argument for the ability to file a claim in your local court (which is being serially abused by this particular court) was established when it was not practical for people to travel great distances to file. These days it is possible. Perhaps there needs to be established one central institution, staffed by specialists that handles all IT IP suits. They would have the expertise to deal with each case without favour, but the idea that there is a 'homer' court is an affront to the justice system in my view.
At least we're not French.
There are many people that would consider not being French a curse, rather than a compliment.