It is a poor craftsperson who blames their tools. As a professional, if a tool is unacceptable, it is still unacceptable at half the price. Find a better tool and use that instead or if no satisfactory tool exists make one yourself.
Good luck with that hatred.
I don't see anyone blaming their tools for shoddy work. I see people blaming the tool company for making crappy tools that make it harder to deliver great work without increasing levels of effort and/or frustration.
Both great demo vids. This is really amazing stuff.
Except for the fact you can still see the artifacts where the delete and heal tool was used. Even at low resolution in a YouTube video. To be all that and a bag of chips saving a lot of labor it can't finish looking like that. And fixing something that's just a hair off can be worse than fixing the originals. I'll reserve judgement till the final comes out.
As far as pushing Adobe is concerned, maybe not in a suite, but I found lots of other products that do what I want in lieu of the Adobe suite and I'm fairly confident that I won't be upgrading or ever going back to Adobe.
Pixelmator instead of PS
DrawIt instead of FW
Flux or Panic's Coda instead of DW
OmniGraffle instead of ID
All of which cost less brand new than half the upgrade price.
thanks for the suggestion HappyPappy... Pixelmator is great value. For $59 I get something that is intuitive, nice to work with, has 95% of what I need. It is a little unstable but for that price I will live with that. Given that Pixelmator has only been around for 3 years and it is only up to version 1.5 it has a promising future.
Keep in mind - the big honkin' monitors they're showing? 3-4 thousand dollars each (the smaller 13" monitors were 700). That laser printer? 7000 or more. That Mac II? 5500 base (hard drive was optional - and expensive) (could have been a Mac IIx - but that was introduced very late in 1988 - but it was 7700).
By the way - these are all 80's prices. Adjusted for inflation that Mac II would cost nearly 10 grand today - without the hard drive or monitor.
So - without the hard drive - a computer monitor and laser printer (B/W) would have cost you - in 2010 money - nearly 29,000 dollars. And we didn't even buy the software yet - which was more than 500 if I remember (I got mine as an eval copy for the art-department at the university I was attending).
Found this old price sheet for a Mac II (on the internets - I only had a Mac Plus in 1988, used the univ computers for Mac II stuff) - dig the price of the modem - you could get a mini for that.
Keep in mind - the big honkin' monitors they're showing? 3-4 thousand dollars each (the smaller 13" monitors were 700). That laser printer? 7000 or more. That Mac II? 5500 base (hard drive was optional - and expensive) (could have been a Mac IIx - but that was introduced very late in 1988 - but it was 7700).
By the way - these are all 80's prices. Adjusted for inflation that Mac II would cost nearly 10 grand today - without the hard drive or monitor.
So - without the hard drive - a computer monitor and laser printer (B/W) would have cost you - in 2010 money - nearly 29,000 dollars. And we didn't even buy the software yet - which was more than 500 if I remember (I got mine as an eval copy for the art-department at the university I was attending).
Found this old price sheet for a Mac II - dig the price of the modem - you could get a mini for that.
Nice receipt. I wished I had saved mine. I bought Illustrator 1a which also had the video. I think that was the very first edition of Illustrator. Also bought Aldus Pagemaker 1.0. My Mac II didn't even have color it was the very first day they became available. Color came out a few months later,
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Content Aware Spot Healing: http://www.youtube.com/user/CS5ORG#p/u/14/X58evj9A8lg
I agree with many that Adobe on Mac can suck these days but I admit this new feature alone will pay for the upgrade in a few days in time saved.
Here is another vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aE...layer_embedded ...drool ...
Agreed. I can't do six hundred bucks again this year. They had better consider the economy or face a major uptick in the torrent 'market.'
Seriously this will earn you that in a week!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aE...layer_embedded
After nearly two years of working on Aperture, they still failed to even come close to Lightroom 2.
wtf? you haven't even looked at Aperture 3. No fucking way.
Seriously this will earn you that in a week!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aE...layer_embedded
I need to see pixels. From far away anything looks good.
I need to see pixels. From far away anything looks good.
Me too but looks pretty good!
It is a poor craftsperson who blames their tools. As a professional, if a tool is unacceptable, it is still unacceptable at half the price. Find a better tool and use that instead or if no satisfactory tool exists make one yourself.
Good luck with that hatred.
I don't see anyone blaming their tools for shoddy work. I see people blaming the tool company for making crappy tools that make it harder to deliver great work without increasing levels of effort and/or frustration.
That's entirely fair and rational.
I agree with many that Adobe on Mac can suck these days but I admit this new feature alone will pay for the upgrade in a few days in time saved.
Here is another vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aE...layer_embedded ...drool ...
Both great demo vids. This is really amazing stuff.
Both great demo vids. This is really amazing stuff.
Except for the fact you can still see the artifacts where the delete and heal tool was used. Even at low resolution in a YouTube video. To be all that and a bag of chips saving a lot of labor it can't finish looking like that. And fixing something that's just a hair off can be worse than fixing the originals. I'll reserve judgement till the final comes out.
As far as pushing Adobe is concerned, maybe not in a suite, but I found lots of other products that do what I want in lieu of the Adobe suite and I'm fairly confident that I won't be upgrading or ever going back to Adobe.
Pixelmator instead of PS
DrawIt instead of FW
Flux or Panic's Coda instead of DW
OmniGraffle instead of ID
All of which cost less brand new than half the upgrade price.
thanks for the suggestion HappyPappy... Pixelmator is great value. For $59 I get something that is intuitive, nice to work with, has 95% of what I need. It is a little unstable but for that price I will live with that. Given that Pixelmator has only been around for 3 years and it is only up to version 1.5 it has a promising future.
Illustrator 88 FTW! Kerning!! w00t!!!
The best was the cheesy VHS demo video they put in the box to explain to everyone what the hell the program even DID.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLFXKyCy0A
Keep in mind - the big honkin' monitors they're showing? 3-4 thousand dollars each (the smaller 13" monitors were 700). That laser printer? 7000 or more. That Mac II? 5500 base (hard drive was optional - and expensive) (could have been a Mac IIx - but that was introduced very late in 1988 - but it was 7700).
By the way - these are all 80's prices. Adjusted for inflation that Mac II would cost nearly 10 grand today - without the hard drive or monitor.
So - without the hard drive - a computer monitor and laser printer (B/W) would have cost you - in 2010 money - nearly 29,000 dollars. And we didn't even buy the software yet - which was more than 500 if I remember (I got mine as an eval copy for the art-department at the university I was attending).
Found this old price sheet for a Mac II (on the internets - I only had a Mac Plus in 1988, used the univ computers for Mac II stuff) - dig the price of the modem - you could get a mini for that.
The best was the cheesy VHS demo video they put in the box to explain to everyone what the hell the program even DID.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNLFXKyCy0A
Keep in mind - the big honkin' monitors they're showing? 3-4 thousand dollars each (the smaller 13" monitors were 700). That laser printer? 7000 or more. That Mac II? 5500 base (hard drive was optional - and expensive) (could have been a Mac IIx - but that was introduced very late in 1988 - but it was 7700).
By the way - these are all 80's prices. Adjusted for inflation that Mac II would cost nearly 10 grand today - without the hard drive or monitor.
So - without the hard drive - a computer monitor and laser printer (B/W) would have cost you - in 2010 money - nearly 29,000 dollars. And we didn't even buy the software yet - which was more than 500 if I remember (I got mine as an eval copy for the art-department at the university I was attending).
Found this old price sheet for a Mac II - dig the price of the modem - you could get a mini for that.
Nice receipt. I wished I had saved mine. I bought Illustrator 1a which also had the video. I think that was the very first edition of Illustrator. Also bought Aldus Pagemaker 1.0. My Mac II didn't even have color it was the very first day they became available. Color came out a few months later,