Wow ! Now Apple is going to take their hands in the Ad market too. I can only imagine the ads that are coming soon at 7 April onwards.
This will be the greatest thing since the iPhone for Apple's profits, which they will plow into R and D, resulting in us getting more and better Apple iStuff!
Oh God. Yet more advertising? Just what we need, sucking up your bandwidth and using up more of your monthly allowance. Next you won't be able to run apps unless you have a live internet connection so you can get crap downloaded to annoy you. they say you data plan is "unlimited" but that's not going to last.
Just picture how much fun it will be if you are listening to a song, then when the song ends you get a blaring advertisement before the next song starts.
I'm really not in favor of the move toward targeted, location-based ads, at all. Some of you think this makes them "better" because they're "more relevant". I think it makes it worse, because neither google nor apple should know where I am or what I could potentially buy....but just buying into their ecosystem seems to void my rights in that regard, apparently.
Just picture how much fun it will be if you are listening to a song, then when the song ends you get a blaring advertisement before the next song starts.
Doesn't Pandora already do this? I don't have an iPhone/iPod touch, but I know that when I listen to Pandora on my browser, I get audio ads from time to time.
Apple's plan to muscle its way into the mobile advertising market in a direct challenge to Google could come as early as next month in the form of a service dubbed "iAd," according to a published but vague report on the matter. ...
It's looking more and more like the iPad and web advertising is going to drive a whole new wave of jailbreaking. Apple just doesn't seem to get how opposed many of their customers (especially outside of the USA), are to this kind of captive "can't opt out" advertising.
If I can't block ads on the web while using the iPad, then there is not much point in using it for web browsing at all.
Since the birth of the internet I think I've clicked on a banner ad 5 times and have never purchased anything as a result of seeing one.
Ditto. I think I clicked on an ad once by mistake but I can't remember intentionally doing so.
I've always wondered who those people are that actually read an ad, then think "Gee, I should click on this and see what they want to tell/sell me." It boggles the mind that people are so uniformly foolish.
I just want google to get its ass kicked and be a little more humble. Google as recently gotten into the habit of releasing products that werent ready. Thinking their name would carry the technology. Google adsense is also a monopoly and they can muscle their way into the thought that hey its either them or nothing. Though there is yahoo but not much of a competition. If you cant google something then chances are your site traffic is not significant or at least as high as it can be. So god forbid they do something to their search technology that changes your pagerank and destroys a small business.
As apple needs competition, if for nothing then just to be competitive and innovative, so does google. They need to be challenged in search and ad. They arent really being challenged in search. So I guess apple can challenge them in mobile search. It might not be a big part since the mobile search is 2 billion a year business and google earned 37 billion in revenue but at least it would give them some competition.
Competition is what leads to innovation without it we would not have the products and services and the gadgets we have today.
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Apple's plan to muscle its way into the mobile advertising market in a direct challenge to Google could come as early as next month in the form of a service dubbed "iAd," according to a published but vague report on the matter.
Citing an unnamed executive familiar with the plans, MediaPost claims that Apple chief executive Steve Jobs has been touting the upcoming service, rumored to launch April 7th, as "revolutionary" and "our next big thing" amongst his inner circle. No further details were reported.
Still, it's expected that the service will leverage assets and personnel acquired by the iPhone maker in its January buyout of mobile advertising firm Quattro Wireless for $275 million. The acquisition came on the heels of a $750 million purchase of rival mobile ad firm AdMob by Google, which reportedly outbid Apple on the deal.
When asked about the company's acquisitions of Quattro and the Lala music service during the company's first quarter earnings conference call, Apple's chief financial officer Peter Openheimer said, "In terms of Quattro and Lala we acquired Quattro because we wanted to offer a seamless way for developers to make more money on their apps, especially free apps. We acquire companies from time to time for their technology and talent, that's why we do it."
Apple has never run an ad business before, but it has also never really had a captive platform to sell any advertising before either. The company briefly flirted with adding banner ads to its Sherlock search app a decade ago before abandoning the idea. Since then, it has focused on selling its own applications and its iTunes media partners' content as ad-free rather than chasing the idea of ad-supported media models.
This, however, enabled Google to remain focused on creating an open source smartphone monoculture around its own Android mobile operating system that would allow it to track and target mobile users with advertising. The search giant's goal is to expand its advertising monopoly into mobile devices and become the next Microsoft of smartphones, except that it will be collecting revenues for ads and paid search results rather than licensing software as Microsoft had.
For its part, Apple operates the world's fastest growing mobile platform and retains a tight relationship with its iPhone developers, who can currently only publish their apps through iTunes. By offering these software makers integrated advertising services, its believed that Apple can get started in the mobile ad business and quickly catch up with Google's own fledgeling mobile efforts.
In a report published back in January, people close to Apple's Jobs said the company co-founder hoped to "overhaul mobile advertising in the same way they had revolutionized music players and phones." Details were again scarce, but it was speculated that Apple could rely on user data collected through iTunes and the App Store, along with geo-location technology due to GPS in the iPhone, to create targeted, local advertisements that would be more relevant to consumers. The company could also utilize gimmicks, such as having users shake their iPhone to win a prize.
"Some developers have profited by embedding ads in their apps, but the payments tend to be insignificant since the ads are usually smaller, less effective versions of their Web banner forms," the report said. "According to a source familiar with his thinking, Jobs has recognized that 'mobile ads suck' and that improving that situation will make Apple even harder to beat."
"Apple has a vault of valuable data that can help drive an ad business," the report added. "It knows precisely which apps, podcasts, videos, and songs people download from iTunes; in many cases it has detailed customer information such as credit-card numbers and home addresses. That gives Apple a chance to blend advertising and e-commerce in new ways, particularly after the acquisition of Quattro."
For Apple, the market and opportunity already exists, which should allow the company to focus primarily on execution. As of 2007, the company said it had more than 500 million active iTunes Store account holders, a figure which has surely grown substantially since then. It's bounty? A mobile online advertising market worth $2 billion annually and growing.
Now this is a VERY big development. All the analysts talk about the possibility that Apple will introduce low priced iPhones and other devices in the future in order to further penetrate all markets by bringing down the cost of ownership of Apple products. Well, here is how they are going to do it. No, Apple isn't going to do it by cutting prices and thus hurting its margins and profitability...It is going to make the absolutely unbelievably ingenious move of building its subsidy model...but this time it will be with advertisers...So, they get the subside from the wireless providers. Now they will get subsidies from major national and international marketers such as Coke, Toyota, etc...by forcing those who want a lower priced iPhone, for example, to watch ads. Clearly there will be some sort of interactivity built into the ad so that it knows the user is paying attention...This is HUGE news and will have a very meaningful impact on unit sales across all mobile device product lines (iPhone, iPod, iPad). VERY VERY big.
For a fee, sure. Lets not forget ads are usually centered around free apps.
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You'll have that. It's called not buying the free app.
I don't really disagree with you, but it's worth mentioning that there are already paid apps in the app store that still contain ads that cannot be removed. They aren't always just tiny or marginal ones either.
The (evil) "Shazam" app comes to mind for instance. You pay for it, but it has banner ads, and it's one of the most popular apps in the store.
As long as there are idiots who don't care, the advertisers will do their thing. The advertisers interest is pretty much diametrically opposed to the interests of the end user. As long as they can get away with stuff like that they probably will.
I can never view the development of intrusive ads as a positive. This smells like the "slowing/termination of user functionality until user responds to ad" patent Apple filed not too long ago...
Of course, fanboys will spin it as a positive regardless, since Apple has their fingerprints all over it.
Now this is a VERY big development. All the analysts talk about the possibility that Apple will introduce low priced iPhones and other devices in the future in order to further penetrate all markets by bringing down the cost of ownership of Apple products. Well, here is how they are going to do it. No, Apple isn't going to do it by cutting prices and thus hurting its margins and profitability...It is going to make the absolutely unbelievably ingenious move of building its subsidy model...but this time it will be with advertisers...So, they get the subside from the wireless providers. Now they will get subsidies from major national and international marketers such as Coke, Toyota, etc...by forcing those who want a lower priced iPhone, for example, to watch ads. Clearly there will be some sort of interactivity built into the ad so that it knows the user is paying attention...This is HUGE news and will have a very meaningful impact on unit sales across all mobile device product lines (iPhone, iPod, iPad). VERY VERY big.
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I want the ability to turn that hsit off!!
You'll have that. It's called not buying the free app.
Wow ! Now Apple is going to take their hands in the Ad market too. I can only imagine the ads that are coming soon at 7 April onwards.
This will be the greatest thing since the iPhone for Apple's profits, which they will plow into R and D, resulting in us getting more and better Apple iStuff!
I'm glad that they are doing this!
Just picture how much fun it will be if you are listening to a song, then when the song ends you get a blaring advertisement before the next song starts.
For paid apps or as part of the OS or core browser functionality that would be annoying.
Just picture how much fun it will be if you are listening to a song, then when the song ends you get a blaring advertisement before the next song starts.
Doesn't Pandora already do this? I don't have an iPhone/iPod touch, but I know that when I listen to Pandora on my browser, I get audio ads from time to time.
Apple's plan to muscle its way into the mobile advertising market in a direct challenge to Google could come as early as next month in the form of a service dubbed "iAd," according to a published but vague report on the matter. ...
It's looking more and more like the iPad and web advertising is going to drive a whole new wave of jailbreaking. Apple just doesn't seem to get how opposed many of their customers (especially outside of the USA), are to this kind of captive "can't opt out" advertising.
If I can't block ads on the web while using the iPad, then there is not much point in using it for web browsing at all.
Since the birth of the internet I think I've clicked on a banner ad 5 times and have never purchased anything as a result of seeing one.
Ditto. I think I clicked on an ad once by mistake but I can't remember intentionally doing so.
I've always wondered who those people are that actually read an ad, then think "Gee, I should click on this and see what they want to tell/sell me." It boggles the mind that people are so uniformly foolish.
Wow ! Now Apple is going to take their hands in the Ad market too. I can only imagine the ads that are coming soon at 7 April onwards.
A free fart app with an ad for Gas-X.
As apple needs competition, if for nothing then just to be competitive and innovative, so does google. They need to be challenged in search and ad. They arent really being challenged in search. So I guess apple can challenge them in mobile search. It might not be a big part since the mobile search is 2 billion a year business and google earned 37 billion in revenue but at least it would give them some competition.
Competition is what leads to innovation without it we would not have the products and services and the gadgets we have today.
Apple's plan to muscle its way into the mobile advertising market in a direct challenge to Google could come as early as next month in the form of a service dubbed "iAd," according to a published but vague report on the matter.
Citing an unnamed executive familiar with the plans, MediaPost claims that Apple chief executive Steve Jobs has been touting the upcoming service, rumored to launch April 7th, as "revolutionary" and "our next big thing" amongst his inner circle. No further details were reported.
Still, it's expected that the service will leverage assets and personnel acquired by the iPhone maker in its January buyout of mobile advertising firm Quattro Wireless for $275 million. The acquisition came on the heels of a $750 million purchase of rival mobile ad firm AdMob by Google, which reportedly outbid Apple on the deal.
When asked about the company's acquisitions of Quattro and the Lala music service during the company's first quarter earnings conference call, Apple's chief financial officer Peter Openheimer said, "In terms of Quattro and Lala we acquired Quattro because we wanted to offer a seamless way for developers to make more money on their apps, especially free apps. We acquire companies from time to time for their technology and talent, that's why we do it."
Apple has never run an ad business before, but it has also never really had a captive platform to sell any advertising before either. The company briefly flirted with adding banner ads to its Sherlock search app a decade ago before abandoning the idea. Since then, it has focused on selling its own applications and its iTunes media partners' content as ad-free rather than chasing the idea of ad-supported media models.
This, however, enabled Google to remain focused on creating an open source smartphone monoculture around its own Android mobile operating system that would allow it to track and target mobile users with advertising. The search giant's goal is to expand its advertising monopoly into mobile devices and become the next Microsoft of smartphones, except that it will be collecting revenues for ads and paid search results rather than licensing software as Microsoft had.
For its part, Apple operates the world's fastest growing mobile platform and retains a tight relationship with its iPhone developers, who can currently only publish their apps through iTunes. By offering these software makers integrated advertising services, its believed that Apple can get started in the mobile ad business and quickly catch up with Google's own fledgeling mobile efforts.
In a report published back in January, people close to Apple's Jobs said the company co-founder hoped to "overhaul mobile advertising in the same way they had revolutionized music players and phones." Details were again scarce, but it was speculated that Apple could rely on user data collected through iTunes and the App Store, along with geo-location technology due to GPS in the iPhone, to create targeted, local advertisements that would be more relevant to consumers. The company could also utilize gimmicks, such as having users shake their iPhone to win a prize.
"Some developers have profited by embedding ads in their apps, but the payments tend to be insignificant since the ads are usually smaller, less effective versions of their Web banner forms," the report said. "According to a source familiar with his thinking, Jobs has recognized that 'mobile ads suck' and that improving that situation will make Apple even harder to beat."
"Apple has a vault of valuable data that can help drive an ad business," the report added. "It knows precisely which apps, podcasts, videos, and songs people download from iTunes; in many cases it has detailed customer information such as credit-card numbers and home addresses. That gives Apple a chance to blend advertising and e-commerce in new ways, particularly after the acquisition of Quattro."
For Apple, the market and opportunity already exists, which should allow the company to focus primarily on execution. As of 2007, the company said it had more than 500 million active iTunes Store account holders, a figure which has surely grown substantially since then. It's bounty? A mobile online advertising market worth $2 billion annually and growing.
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For a fee, sure. Lets not forget ads are usually centered around free apps.
You'll have that. It's called not buying the free app.
I don't really disagree with you, but it's worth mentioning that there are already paid apps in the app store that still contain ads that cannot be removed. They aren't always just tiny or marginal ones either.
The (evil) "Shazam" app comes to mind for instance. You pay for it, but it has banner ads, and it's one of the most popular apps in the store.
As long as there are idiots who don't care, the advertisers will do their thing. The advertisers interest is pretty much diametrically opposed to the interests of the end user. As long as they can get away with stuff like that they probably will.
The naming is just ridiculous. i i i i i i i... can't hear these egocentric and stupid product names anymore.
I agree.... how about mePhone, mePod, mePad, meAd?
Since the birth of the internet I think I've clicked on a banner ad 5 times and have never purchased anything as a result of seeing one.
Me too....
Of course, fanboys will spin it as a positive regardless, since Apple has their fingerprints all over it.
A free fart app with an ad for Gas-X.
+1. Post of the day.
Now this is a VERY big development. All the analysts talk about the possibility that Apple will introduce low priced iPhones and other devices in the future in order to further penetrate all markets by bringing down the cost of ownership of Apple products. Well, here is how they are going to do it. No, Apple isn't going to do it by cutting prices and thus hurting its margins and profitability...It is going to make the absolutely unbelievably ingenious move of building its subsidy model...but this time it will be with advertisers...So, they get the subside from the wireless providers. Now they will get subsidies from major national and international marketers such as Coke, Toyota, etc...by forcing those who want a lower priced iPhone, for example, to watch ads. Clearly there will be some sort of interactivity built into the ad so that it knows the user is paying attention...This is HUGE news and will have a very meaningful impact on unit sales across all mobile device product lines (iPhone, iPod, iPad). VERY VERY big.
This is, indeed, an intriguing possibility.