I cannot think of any situation, ever, where Apple released a point (2.1) upgrade to the iPod touch, for which there was a specific minor release charge attached. Both point (2.1) and point-point (2.1.1) upgrades have both always been free so far.
It was only ever the major upgrades (eg 2.0) or new feature releases which could be detached from the associated OS release (eg the 2008 JSU) that had a cost associated with them.
I do believe, though, that after 2.0 was first released, a rather significant portion of the iPod touch user base was still sceptical about the whole notion of paying for OS upgrades, so there were hold-outs still running 1.x by the time 2.1 was ready for release. So Apple dropped the 1.x -> 2.x upgrade fee by half to entice those last few 1.x users to get with the program. But the fee was still only charged from people making the major revision leap (1.x to 2.x); people who already had 2.0 were given 2.1 for free like any other minor update.
Thanks for the correction. I just remember going to the Apple Store, and the Apple staff saying that I would have to pay for the upgrade to 2.1 as the iPod touch in the store still had the previous version. So I never did buy one; I got an iPhone instead.
As long as the iPhone never qualifies for paid OS updates, I'm good. The moment it does, adios Apple and hello whatever floats my fancy.
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Originally Posted by stevegmu
So $5-10/year isn't worth spending to use an iPhone?
Yea... I'm with Steve on this one...
First is this.. How long are you planning on holding on to your existing iPhone?
Second is it 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation?
People don't hold onto phones like the do desktops or laptops... the the technology is moving WAY too fast and it's often the case that by the time the 2 year contract is up (a norm here in the states) the cellular provider is MORE than willing to provide you with NEW (subsidized) phones as incentive to recommit ...OR... if you are looking to MOVE to a new provider AGAIN said provider is more than willing to offer subsidized phones (and perhaps more) as an incentive to 'join the team'.
So no matter how you look at it, holding on to OLD iPhone isn't too prudent ***UNLESS*** you happen to live in a NON-3G supported area **AND** have the 1st gen iPhone with the lower cost AT&T plan...
Rumor has it that Apple Care on the ipad is only a one year extension so they would be looking at this as a two year device. In other words, most folks, they believe, will update within 2 years anyway and those that don't know they have 'old tech'. So you'd get the latest OS with the new device. And we don't know how much they would charge. A $2 charge for the new OS isn't much. A $20 is.
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Originally Posted by Bergermeister
The OS upgrades for phones are free because there is a contract.
It's nothing to do with the contract. The issue with the phone is that the updates are bug fixes, security patches and in particular ATT updates needed to make sure your phone keeps running. Having free updates encourages actually applying them so you don't end up in a sitch where you can't send or receive calls because your carrier profile is 4 versions too old.
I don't mind paying for OS upgrades in general, though i do think updates (esp those for security, bug fixes, etc.) should be free.
What I do mind is that Apple buried this in a licensing agreement fine print, released *after* the pre-order date.
I don't think an up front statement saying exactly the same thing (we *may* charge for updates in the future) would've effected sales one iota. But from a consumer/optics standpoint I think it would've sat a whole lot better.
Where exactly does it say that upgrades after the next major one will be paid? All they are saying is that the next major one will be free. Most likely, they haven't determined a policy going forward, (there were rumors that the accounting rules changes would eliminate all upgrade fees), and want to assure users that they can at least count on the one more free upgrade.
Is completely at odds with this statement from Apple:Which is again at odds with this statement by the author: No to mention the title of the article itself, which is dead wrong.
Please learn to read, or write, or both. This whole article is just full of it.
Edit: mark2005 got there first. The statement from Apple is being completely misrepresented and doesn't say what the author thinks it does.
Glad someone else noticed it. The article says it's not free but the quote from Apple says it is. Horribly written article.
Where exactly does it say that upgrades after the next major one will be paid? All they are saying is that the next major one will be free. Most likely, they haven't determined a policy going forward, (there were rumors that the accounting rules changes would eliminate all upgrade fees), and want to assure users that they can at least count on the one more free upgrade.
You're right, it doesn't. it uses an example to say exactly what it means. When v4.0 is announced and demoed (next month?) it will be free to iPad users.
The iPad looks to give free point and point.point releases, and one free major (4.0) upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody
This statement by the author:
Is completely at odds with this statement from Apple:Which is again at odds with this statement by the author: No to mention the title of the article itself, which is dead wrong.
Please learn to read, or write, or both. This whole article is just full of it.
Edit: mark2005 got there first. The statement from Apple is being completely misrepresented and doesn't say what the author thinks it does.
Seriously.
The original author of the article has serious reading comprehension problems.
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I cannot think of any situation, ever, where Apple released a point (2.1) upgrade to the iPod touch, for which there was a specific minor release charge attached. Both point (2.1) and point-point (2.1.1) upgrades have both always been free so far.
It was only ever the major upgrades (eg 2.0) or new feature releases which could be detached from the associated OS release (eg the 2008 JSU) that had a cost associated with them.
I do believe, though, that after 2.0 was first released, a rather significant portion of the iPod touch user base was still sceptical about the whole notion of paying for OS upgrades, so there were hold-outs still running 1.x by the time 2.1 was ready for release. So Apple dropped the 1.x -> 2.x upgrade fee by half to entice those last few 1.x users to get with the program. But the fee was still only charged from people making the major revision leap (1.x to 2.x); people who already had 2.0 were given 2.1 for free like any other minor update.
Thanks for the correction. I just remember going to the Apple Store, and the Apple staff saying that I would have to pay for the upgrade to 2.1 as the iPod touch in the store still had the previous version. So I never did buy one; I got an iPhone instead.
good news for apple fans, im looking forward to the upgrade.
No one knows what this post means.
As long as the iPhone never qualifies for paid OS updates, I'm good. The moment it does, adios Apple and hello whatever floats my fancy.
So $5-10/year isn't worth spending to use an iPhone?
Yea... I'm with Steve on this one...
First is this.. How long are you planning on holding on to your existing iPhone?
Second is it 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation?
People don't hold onto phones like the do desktops or laptops... the the technology is moving WAY too fast and it's often the case that by the time the 2 year contract is up (a norm here in the states) the cellular provider is MORE than willing to provide you with NEW (subsidized) phones as incentive to recommit ...OR... if you are looking to MOVE to a new provider AGAIN said provider is more than willing to offer subsidized phones (and perhaps more) as an incentive to 'join the team'.
So no matter how you look at it, holding on to OLD iPhone isn't too prudent ***UNLESS*** you happen to live in a NON-3G supported area **AND** have the 1st gen iPhone with the lower cost AT&T plan...
No one knows what this post means.
Ireland, don't go and spoil it... Let the poor boy be happy will ya!??!
Makes sense. We pay for major OSX upgrades.
Rumor has it that Apple Care on the ipad is only a one year extension so they would be looking at this as a two year device. In other words, most folks, they believe, will update within 2 years anyway and those that don't know they have 'old tech'. So you'd get the latest OS with the new device. And we don't know how much they would charge. A $2 charge for the new OS isn't much. A $20 is.
The OS upgrades for phones are free because there is a contract.
It's nothing to do with the contract. The issue with the phone is that the updates are bug fixes, security patches and in particular ATT updates needed to make sure your phone keeps running. Having free updates encourages actually applying them so you don't end up in a sitch where you can't send or receive calls because your carrier profile is 4 versions too old.
What I do mind is that Apple buried this in a licensing agreement fine print, released *after* the pre-order date.
I don't think an up front statement saying exactly the same thing (we *may* charge for updates in the future) would've effected sales one iota. But from a consumer/optics standpoint I think it would've sat a whole lot better.
This statement by the author:
Is completely at odds with this statement from Apple:Which is again at odds with this statement by the author: No to mention the title of the article itself, which is dead wrong.
Please learn to read, or write, or both. This whole article is just full of it.
Edit: mark2005 got there first. The statement from Apple is being completely misrepresented and doesn't say what the author thinks it does.
Glad someone else noticed it. The article says it's not free but the quote from Apple says it is. Horribly written article.
Where exactly does it say that upgrades after the next major one will be paid? All they are saying is that the next major one will be free. Most likely, they haven't determined a policy going forward, (there were rumors that the accounting rules changes would eliminate all upgrade fees), and want to assure users that they can at least count on the one more free upgrade.
You're right, it doesn't. it uses an example to say exactly what it means. When v4.0 is announced and demoed (next month?) it will be free to iPad users.
The iPad looks to give free point and point.point releases, and one free major (4.0) upgrade.
This statement by the author:
Is completely at odds with this statement from Apple:Which is again at odds with this statement by the author: No to mention the title of the article itself, which is dead wrong.
Please learn to read, or write, or both. This whole article is just full of it.
Edit: mark2005 got there first. The statement from Apple is being completely misrepresented and doesn't say what the author thinks it does.
Seriously.
The original author of the article has serious reading comprehension problems.