Every day, we?re getting closer to a truly hacked iPad. I support this endeavor, but there are many who would say that Apple has our best interests in mind by limiting the iPad to what they think it should do. Well. Lately we?ve learned about apps being rejected for having ?pad? in the name, apps being rejected because they weren?t written in the right coding environment (regardless of compatibility), a dashboard app that was rejected because it ?contradicts the iPad user experience.? It?s going to become increasingly clear over the next few weeks and months just how carefully delineated Apple means the iPad experience to be. So the question is, are you just going to take it?
Wow, where do I begin?!! Apple provides a product & if you don't like it BUY SOMETHING ELSE! You think the world & everything in it owes you something?! Without the incredibly hard work & effort of Apple Engineers & Apple pouring all the production resources in it the iPad would have never been possible! Apple has every right to protect their reputation so if they reject an app for using the word "pad" that is their right, it's their product! The rejection of non-approved code is a security/stability measure that most of us sane people absolutely want Apple to keep! They don't have time to pour through every line of code to ensure it's good & if they let one person's app through then how then would they explain rejecting someone else's code?! You want they should start judging the way people code?!! No, they provide a set of standards & they draw a line. Don't like it, develop somewhere else!
You want to show Apple you are unhappy with their product, go give your money to someone else! You think Apple cares that you buy their product & then hack it? You still bought it from them, they still got your money! They just keep breaking your hack & making your experience a pain that you have to keep working around their counter measures!
You know the guys who started Apple were born out of the hacker community, but back then it was something more respectable than I fear it is today. I wonder if Steve Jobs ever looks back & wonders what has happen to that world he grew up in.
The market and customer satisfaction results would seem to indicate differently. You don't see nearly the uptake in the Android market (or Open Source for that matter) as you did/do for Apple. And it ain't in the marketing either, because for every ad that Apple puts out there there are a dozen articles/blogs about how Apple is closed and proprietary, how that is bad, and how Apple is too controlling and so on. Try again please.
Initial uptake, no: Apple is amazing at generating hype for their products. Steve is an absolute god of manipulating users into accepting game changes.
Long term? The iPhone is already falling back. Sales this year have slowed dramatically, while sales of Android devices have gone through the roof. Apple has another year or so left before they are completely lost in the shuffle. They may have set a trend by winning that first battle, but their overly controlling execution are going to lose the war.
(And yes: Android isn't universally "open" as a platform, but it is certainly more open than the iPhone; and specific devices, like the Nexus One, actually are truly "open".)
What Apple really needs to do is hire some of the better hackers & pay them good money to help them secure their systems. Hate to reward people for bad behavior but truth be told it is usually the more malicious ones who are really good at what they do, for them it's more of an obsession than a hobby.
I hate to break it to you, but the "malicious" ones actually tend to not be the best: people who can't make enough money with their skills to even purchase software, or feel the personal motivation to directly harm other people to feel good about themselves, tend to not be as amazing as the people who are actually doing something constructive.
I have never cared for hackers very much either (well at least *today's* hackers), they seem to be mostly concerned with simple theft of IP.
OTOH, Apple is going out of it's way to provide motivation for the platform to be hacked. The "freedom" argument hackers use for instance had no real legs until Apple started censoring content for purely moral and aesthetic reasons as they have lately. Also, the new focus on advertisements at the same time that they released the iPad is another great reason to jailbreak. People don't generally like forced advertisements and never have.
It's the lack of any other option for the end consumer that seems to be driving the latest round of jailbreaking, even if the first few rounds were mostly driven by the criminal/looser types.
Ugh. If you are going to jailbreak your phone to remove advertisements, please don't. People who block advertisements are just as amoral as the people who steal software, or frankly the people who steal things from a physical store. The goal of jailbreaking is not, nor should it be, related to taking content or software or value from anyone else: it is about being able to /add/ content and software and value where there wasn't any before.
As for the "first rounds" of jailbreaking, they were driven by a need to /create/. When the iPhone came out it is was the first reasonable piece of hardware with an LCD touchscreen and a GSM modem. Meanwhile, there was no way to write software for it at all until you jailbroken it. A ton of really awesome stuff got developed for the platform in that first year, and many of those developers have gone on to write code in the App Store, such as Tapulous: one of Apple's shining gems.
Now what if this was a malware hosted on a site and it wanted to connect to a botnet? I can't place a outgoing firewall software on a iPad to warn one of such covert connections because Apple won't approve something like that on their App Store.
To take this a step further, such a program does exist for jailbroken devices: Firewall iP, I believe is the name.
I agree with the censorship being a bad aspect. But I also believe it's a necessary compromise.
If Apple didn't control the applications available, there would be problem with malware, low quality
apps and apps that would give the iPhone a bad image (porn apps and such).
The advertisement concept seems to be a little misunderstood.
Rather then previously ad-free apps becoming "infested" with ads.
Apps with already existing "boring" ads would have more attractive ones and
perhaps previously not free apps would be free if containing ads.
I would completely agree with you if they suddenly censored an app for containing
democratic rather then republic opinions of that caliber.
I really prefer the limitations before the named cons as a compromise.
Malware is still possible in the App Store, and has happened in a few high-profile cases already. In fact, malware is more possible on the Apple iPhone than on any of its competitors due Apple's half assed approach to constructing security measures.
Meanwhile, Palm and Android both solve all of the problems mentioned in this article by allowing users to install software from third party sources /only if they want it and can find it/, but also having a storefront that they consider more pristine. The fact that Apple doesn't want third parties to install software to the phone under any circumstance is ludicrous.
If you wish to sell your in authorized apps then you should create your own platform to run them on. If you want porn then again, create your own platform.
It's apples hardware and their shop. They can sell whatever they want on/in it. Just like walmart, Microsoft, Sony and nintendo do.
All jailbreaking does is costs apple time and money to put in place measures to try and prevent it. They have to show their software partners that they are trying to protect the ecosystem from piracy.
Ultimatley if you are some smart ass script kiddy go and create your own phone/mobile device instead of stealing someone elses.
Yea, sure, it may be Apple's shop, but Jailbreaking does not cost Apple money. You have already bought the device and you void your warranty. Apple literally does not have to help you. Piracy is the only real downside to it. Jailbreaking brought theming, background changing and multitasking to the iPhone / touch. If Apple hadn't gimped the damn things in the first place, they wouldn't have to fix the holes.
Finally, where do you get off telling people "Oh, well if you don't like it then you can just go make something from scratch." Do you have any idea how HARD it is to program even a SIMPLE application? Right now, I'm trying to write a unit conversion program in C#, and in 3 days, it can still only do Feet to meters and back. And I'm NEW to C#, which already has memory allocation, garbage collectors and a whole load of stuff already included.
Mostly, mobile platforms are written in C++ or something similar because it's suited for that, and with just straight C++, you have to do memory allocation, make sure you're cleaning up after yourself, and handle at least 3 different error methods. A script kiddie WOULD NOT be able to handle that. They're head would explode.
And besides, the people who find the holes actually know what they're doing, and are, most likely, attempting to fix and improve on Apple's product. Perhaps you don't think it's a good idea. But how does that give you the authority to control what goes on something I have purchased with my own money? It doesn't. Yea, sure, Apple is trying to make a quality product, but there are a few things they should add first, such as dropping the $99/year developers license to make apps, and remove the whole "Apps can only be made on Intel Macs" thing.
So instead of exposing the users to the low-level stuff, Apple makes a simplistic approach and
creates an OS where you wont get warnings like "System exited with error 4352. Idle thread not responding to allocation of a new thread stack.".
So then what's it supposed to say when it crashes? Does it still give you an error code? (serious question, I haven't really crashed anything on an Apple product)
The reason it gives you the error code is so you can take said code to someone who knows what it means. [Hypothetical Situation] For example, you install something but it says there was an error and quits. It gives you a code (0x003a84). You search "(program name) error 0x003a84". You are directed to a site which tells you that it has to have another program installed first. You install the dependency, then the app itself, and get on with your life. It it doesn't give you a code, then you have no way of knowing what happened, and are forced to actually take it to the dev or someone, who has to attach a debugger to it, then a whole long process, which could cost upwards of $50. The last bit, with the description, probably isn't necessary, but the code itself is.
Sorry, but IP theft and identity theft are real problems for society. The fact that you don't see them as problems says a lot.
As for the motorcycle laws, it's not about insurance companies. If that was all there was, they'd simply pass a law that someone not wearing a helmet couldn't collect from their insurance company. Rather, it's an attempt to reduce total societal cost-which is arguably a reasonable function of society.
It's about reducing cost. Period.
I didn't say anything about seeing them as problems. What I wrote is exactly what I wrote, it has nothing to do with what I see as problems.
Don't let the screen door hit you where the sun don't shine! Somehow, I don't think Apple cares about you.
I think it's funny as hell that a lot of Apple fans think the iPad is the best tablet computer period. I've seen people with tablets with bigger screens, made by Wacom, running Windows, that are at least 2 years old. There's a Compaq tablet PC with a keyboard, 2 gigs o' RAM, a 2 GHz processor and 160 gig Hard drive for the same price as the base iPad.
I think it's funny as hell that a lot of Apple fans think the iPad is the best tablet computer period. I've seen people with tablets with bigger screens, made by Wacom, running Windows, that are at least 2 years old. There's a Compaq tablet PC with a keyboard, 2 gigs o' RAM, a 2 GHz processor and 160 gig Hard drive for the same price as the base iPad.
You just listed the reasons why Apple fans want the iPad over others.
bigger screens - umm...that's the whole point. We don't want a bigger display on an iPad
made by Wacom - so what
running Windows - I just threw up a little
2 years old - old
Compaq tablet PC - I just threw up again
with a keyboard - we don't want to live in the past
1st: Lots of creating (but bullsh@t excuses) for downloading mp3s too. Before that people were stealing...
...sounds more like someone is either imagining little demons again or needs a diaper change...
Do people complain when american airlines doesn't allow them to ride on the wing?
In conclusion: My advice is the 5th dock icon and other kludgy jailbreak apps aren't worth all the mental gymnastics involving paranoid fantasies of corporate plots. So cut it out, because nobody wants to see woz in statue of liberty outfit trying to emancipate the monochrome green crts and dot-matrix printers.
By placing your tags in for rage start end end you are trying to be clever. Far from it. I used the term script kiddies to bundle together all of the 'l33t haxxors' etc who AI enjoys bringing the spotlight to every time they release JB updates. I know that 'script kiddies have no chance making their own platform, thats why I said go and make their own. I know they can't because they would have no clue where to start. They get their jollies off of hacking other peoples work.
As I work in the IT industry I design and build data systems and know how much time and money is spent to fend off and prevent hackers on many platforms. At the end of the day it is the consumer who picks up this cost.
Now I could also make this response personal by calling you names etc but as I don't know you and looking at your previous posts I shall simply add you to the ignore list.
There's a Compaq tablet PC with a keyboard, 2 gigs o' RAM, a 2 GHz processor and 160 gig Hard drive for the same price as the base iPad.
Please link to this mythical tablet pc with those specs for $499 and it is a 'tablet PC', e.g the screen can be swivelled and folded flat over the keyboard, giving the 'tablet' name. Not just a laptop with a touch screen.
New of course, not 2nd hand or refurbished or in a clearance sale and is a current product not end of life.
Seriously, though: this situation is /also/ no different than on a desktop PC. You can install all kinds of random software on that device, taking up as little or as much RAM as it wants, and you are even plugging random hardware peripherals into it and installing drivers into the kernel... this is /routine/. And here, somehow, on this device you put in your pocket, a device that is more powerful than the computer that was sitting on your desk just a decade ago, all of these common sense notions about "your bugs are your fault" have gone out the window? Come on...
This is exactly my point when people complain about "hackers". I point out that Mac OS X has a lot of applications, including some very popular applications, that use unapproved/unsupported techniques. 1Password, AdBlockPlus or any other Safari add-on is expressly unsupported by Apple, and Apple tech support won't help you until you remove such applications--yet nobody will deny that 1Password is pretty danged useful (in fact I know several Apple engineers that use 1Password themselves). Difference is on the desktop, you have a choice to not use Safari if it doesn't (auto-)fill your needs, or you can use an application that "hacks" into Safari. On the iPad, you have neither choice.
On the desktop Apple has no control over what users do to their Macs, and things seem to have worked out just fine. Apple is simply exerting control over iPhones/iPads to create vendor lockin and prevent user choice, which has always proven to fail in the long run.
I hate to break it to you, but the "malicious" ones actually tend to not be the best: people who can't make enough money with their skills to even purchase software, or feel the personal motivation to directly harm other people to feel good about themselves, tend to not be as amazing as the people who are actually doing something constructive.
Actually I do agree with you but only in part. History has shown that some of the best & brightest got their start at a young age dabbling in criminal activity. It was precisely because they were so good at what they did that later in life they are snatched up & given good jobs where they can actually put their talent to good use. So in this regard you are correct but you simplify too much.
I still believe strongly that some of the best are out there, undiscovered, & simply aren't putting it to good use because they are in it for the thrill & to stick it to the man.
In conclusion: My advice is the 5th dock icon and other kludgy jailbreak apps aren't worth all the mental gymnastics involving paranoid fantasies of corporate plots. So cut it out, because nobody wants to see woz in statue of liberty outfit trying to emancipate the monochrome green crts and dot-matrix printers.
You just listed the reasons why Apple fans want the iPad over others.
bigger screens - umm...that's the whole point. We don't want a bigger display on an iPad
made by Wacom - so what
running Windows - I just threw up a little
2 years old - old
Compaq tablet PC - I just threw up again
with a keyboard - we don't want to live in the past
You can't reason with Windows fanboys, all they understand are raw specs. They can't wrap their head around how much value software & functionality bring to a device because they are used to working on crap software that rarely functions as advertised.
They also can't seem to understand how hardware really works. They're always throwing out processor & memory without understanding that architecture & optimization are the true key to performance. You can get a Ford Mustang with a 4.6L V8 for like 1/4 the cost of a Porsche 911 with a 3.8L Flat6 but the 911 will run circles around the mustang.
They do not belong to the Apple platform, because they're not needed there.
What's the point in trying to ruin a good solution several people have worked so hard on creating?
A man wiser than I once said the following:
"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do."
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Every day, we?re getting closer to a truly hacked iPad. I support this endeavor, but there are many who would say that Apple has our best interests in mind by limiting the iPad to what they think it should do. Well. Lately we?ve learned about apps being rejected for having ?pad? in the name, apps being rejected because they weren?t written in the right coding environment (regardless of compatibility), a dashboard app that was rejected because it ?contradicts the iPad user experience.? It?s going to become increasingly clear over the next few weeks and months just how carefully delineated Apple means the iPad experience to be. So the question is, are you just going to take it?
Wow, where do I begin?!! Apple provides a product & if you don't like it BUY SOMETHING ELSE! You think the world & everything in it owes you something?! Without the incredibly hard work & effort of Apple Engineers & Apple pouring all the production resources in it the iPad would have never been possible! Apple has every right to protect their reputation so if they reject an app for using the word "pad" that is their right, it's their product! The rejection of non-approved code is a security/stability measure that most of us sane people absolutely want Apple to keep! They don't have time to pour through every line of code to ensure it's good & if they let one person's app through then how then would they explain rejecting someone else's code?! You want they should start judging the way people code?!! No, they provide a set of standards & they draw a line. Don't like it, develop somewhere else!
You want to show Apple you are unhappy with their product, go give your money to someone else! You think Apple cares that you buy their product & then hack it? You still bought it from them, they still got your money! They just keep breaking your hack & making your experience a pain that you have to keep working around their counter measures!
You know the guys who started Apple were born out of the hacker community, but back then it was something more respectable than I fear it is today. I wonder if Steve Jobs ever looks back & wonders what has happen to that world he grew up in.
The market and customer satisfaction results would seem to indicate differently. You don't see nearly the uptake in the Android market (or Open Source for that matter) as you did/do for Apple. And it ain't in the marketing either, because for every ad that Apple puts out there there are a dozen articles/blogs about how Apple is closed and proprietary, how that is bad, and how Apple is too controlling and so on. Try again please.
Initial uptake, no: Apple is amazing at generating hype for their products. Steve is an absolute god of manipulating users into accepting game changes.
Long term? The iPhone is already falling back. Sales this year have slowed dramatically, while sales of Android devices have gone through the roof. Apple has another year or so left before they are completely lost in the shuffle. They may have set a trend by winning that first battle, but their overly controlling execution are going to lose the war.
"Apple Could Get Wormed By Slowing iPhone Sales"
http://blogs.forbes.com/greatspecula...-iphone-sales/
"Multi-phone Android platform seen overtaking iPhone by 2012"
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...e_by_2012.html
Even Apple's claim to usage fame: the shear amount of mobile web traffic generated by users of the iPhone, is a casualty to the hands of Android.
"Android close to overtaking iPhone in US mobile web traffic"
http://www.dvhardware.net/article41935.html
(And yes: Android isn't universally "open" as a platform, but it is certainly more open than the iPhone; and specific devices, like the Nexus One, actually are truly "open".)
What Apple really needs to do is hire some of the better hackers & pay them good money to help them secure their systems. Hate to reward people for bad behavior but truth be told it is usually the more malicious ones who are really good at what they do, for them it's more of an obsession than a hobby.
I hate to break it to you, but the "malicious" ones actually tend to not be the best: people who can't make enough money with their skills to even purchase software, or feel the personal motivation to directly harm other people to feel good about themselves, tend to not be as amazing as the people who are actually doing something constructive.
I have never cared for hackers very much either (well at least *today's* hackers), they seem to be mostly concerned with simple theft of IP.
OTOH, Apple is going out of it's way to provide motivation for the platform to be hacked. The "freedom" argument hackers use for instance had no real legs until Apple started censoring content for purely moral and aesthetic reasons as they have lately. Also, the new focus on advertisements at the same time that they released the iPad is another great reason to jailbreak. People don't generally like forced advertisements and never have.
It's the lack of any other option for the end consumer that seems to be driving the latest round of jailbreaking, even if the first few rounds were mostly driven by the criminal/looser types.
Ugh. If you are going to jailbreak your phone to remove advertisements, please don't. People who block advertisements are just as amoral as the people who steal software, or frankly the people who steal things from a physical store. The goal of jailbreaking is not, nor should it be, related to taking content or software or value from anyone else: it is about being able to /add/ content and software and value where there wasn't any before.
As for the "first rounds" of jailbreaking, they were driven by a need to /create/. When the iPhone came out it is was the first reasonable piece of hardware with an LCD touchscreen and a GSM modem. Meanwhile, there was no way to write software for it at all until you jailbroken it. A ton of really awesome stuff got developed for the platform in that first year, and many of those developers have gone on to write code in the App Store, such as Tapulous: one of Apple's shining gems.
Now what if this was a malware hosted on a site and it wanted to connect to a botnet? I can't place a outgoing firewall software on a iPad to warn one of such covert connections because Apple won't approve something like that on their App Store.
To take this a step further, such a program does exist for jailbroken devices: Firewall iP, I believe is the name.
I agree with the censorship being a bad aspect. But I also believe it's a necessary compromise.
If Apple didn't control the applications available, there would be problem with malware, low quality
apps and apps that would give the iPhone a bad image (porn apps and such).
The advertisement concept seems to be a little misunderstood.
Rather then previously ad-free apps becoming "infested" with ads.
Apps with already existing "boring" ads would have more attractive ones and
perhaps previously not free apps would be free if containing ads.
I would completely agree with you if they suddenly censored an app for containing
democratic rather then republic opinions of that caliber.
I really prefer the limitations before the named cons as a compromise.
Malware is still possible in the App Store, and has happened in a few high-profile cases already. In fact, malware is more possible on the Apple iPhone than on any of its competitors due Apple's half assed approach to constructing security measures.
Meanwhile, Palm and Android both solve all of the problems mentioned in this article by allowing users to install software from third party sources /only if they want it and can find it/, but also having a storefront that they consider more pristine. The fact that Apple doesn't want third parties to install software to the phone under any circumstance is ludicrous.
There is NO argument to support jailbreaking.
If you wish to sell your in authorized apps then you should create your own platform to run them on. If you want porn then again, create your own platform.
It's apples hardware and their shop. They can sell whatever they want on/in it. Just like walmart, Microsoft, Sony and nintendo do.
All jailbreaking does is costs apple time and money to put in place measures to try and prevent it. They have to show their software partners that they are trying to protect the ecosystem from piracy.
Ultimatley if you are some smart ass script kiddy go and create your own phone/mobile device instead of stealing someone elses.
Yea, sure, it may be Apple's shop, but Jailbreaking does not cost Apple money. You have already bought the device and you void your warranty. Apple literally does not have to help you. Piracy is the only real downside to it. Jailbreaking brought theming, background changing and multitasking to the iPhone / touch. If Apple hadn't gimped the damn things in the first place, they wouldn't have to fix the holes.
Finally, where do you get off telling people "Oh, well if you don't like it then you can just go make something from scratch." Do you have any idea how HARD it is to program even a SIMPLE application? Right now, I'm trying to write a unit conversion program in C#, and in 3 days, it can still only do Feet to meters and back. And I'm NEW to C#, which already has memory allocation, garbage collectors and a whole load of stuff already included.
Mostly, mobile platforms are written in C++ or something similar because it's suited for that, and with just straight C++, you have to do memory allocation, make sure you're cleaning up after yourself, and handle at least 3 different error methods. A script kiddie WOULD NOT be able to handle that. They're head would explode.
And besides, the people who find the holes actually know what they're doing, and are, most likely, attempting to fix and improve on Apple's product. Perhaps you don't think it's a good idea. But how does that give you the authority to control what goes on something I have purchased with my own money? It doesn't. Yea, sure, Apple is trying to make a quality product, but there are a few things they should add first, such as dropping the $99/year developers license to make apps, and remove the whole "Apps can only be made on Intel Macs" thing.
So instead of exposing the users to the low-level stuff, Apple makes a simplistic approach and
creates an OS where you wont get warnings like "System exited with error 4352. Idle thread not responding to allocation of a new thread stack.".
So then what's it supposed to say when it crashes? Does it still give you an error code? (serious question, I haven't really crashed anything on an Apple product)
The reason it gives you the error code is so you can take said code to someone who knows what it means. [Hypothetical Situation] For example, you install something but it says there was an error and quits. It gives you a code (0x003a84). You search "(program name) error 0x003a84". You are directed to a site which tells you that it has to have another program installed first. You install the dependency, then the app itself, and get on with your life. It it doesn't give you a code, then you have no way of knowing what happened, and are forced to actually take it to the dev or someone, who has to attach a debugger to it, then a whole long process, which could cost upwards of $50. The last bit, with the description, probably isn't necessary, but the code itself is.
Sorry, but IP theft and identity theft are real problems for society. The fact that you don't see them as problems says a lot.
As for the motorcycle laws, it's not about insurance companies. If that was all there was, they'd simply pass a law that someone not wearing a helmet couldn't collect from their insurance company. Rather, it's an attempt to reduce total societal cost-which is arguably a reasonable function of society.
It's about reducing cost. Period.
I didn't say anything about seeing them as problems. What I wrote is exactly what I wrote, it has nothing to do with what I see as problems.
Fine. Get an HP Tablet. Oh - you can't? Not yet?
Don't let the screen door hit you where the sun don't shine! Somehow, I don't think Apple cares about you.
I think it's funny as hell that a lot of Apple fans think the iPad is the best tablet computer period. I've seen people with tablets with bigger screens, made by Wacom, running Windows, that are at least 2 years old. There's a Compaq tablet PC with a keyboard, 2 gigs o' RAM, a 2 GHz processor and 160 gig Hard drive for the same price as the base iPad.
I think it's funny as hell that a lot of Apple fans think the iPad is the best tablet computer period. I've seen people with tablets with bigger screens, made by Wacom, running Windows, that are at least 2 years old. There's a Compaq tablet PC with a keyboard, 2 gigs o' RAM, a 2 GHz processor and 160 gig Hard drive for the same price as the base iPad.
You just listed the reasons why Apple fans want the iPad over others.
bigger screens - umm...that's the whole point. We don't want a bigger display on an iPad
made by Wacom - so what
running Windows - I just threw up a little
2 years old - old
Compaq tablet PC - I just threw up again
with a keyboard - we don't want to live in the past
1st: Lots of creating (but bullsh@t excuses) for downloading mp3s too. Before that people were stealing...
...sounds more like someone is either imagining little demons again or needs a diaper change...
Do people complain when american airlines doesn't allow them to ride on the wing?
In conclusion: My advice is the 5th dock icon and other kludgy jailbreak apps aren't worth all the mental gymnastics involving paranoid fantasies of corporate plots. So cut it out, because nobody wants to see woz in statue of liberty outfit trying to emancipate the monochrome green crts and dot-matrix printers.
here, here...!
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Oh dear,
By placing your tags in for rage start end end you are trying to be clever. Far from it. I used the term script kiddies to bundle together all of the 'l33t haxxors' etc who AI enjoys bringing the spotlight to every time they release JB updates. I know that 'script kiddies have no chance making their own platform, thats why I said go and make their own. I know they can't because they would have no clue where to start. They get their jollies off of hacking other peoples work.
As I work in the IT industry I design and build data systems and know how much time and money is spent to fend off and prevent hackers on many platforms. At the end of the day it is the consumer who picks up this cost.
Now I could also make this response personal by calling you names etc but as I don't know you and looking at your previous posts I shall simply add you to the ignore list.
There's a Compaq tablet PC with a keyboard, 2 gigs o' RAM, a 2 GHz processor and 160 gig Hard drive for the same price as the base iPad.
Please link to this mythical tablet pc with those specs for $499 and it is a 'tablet PC', e.g the screen can be swivelled and folded flat over the keyboard, giving the 'tablet' name. Not just a laptop with a touch screen.
New of course, not 2nd hand or refurbished or in a clearance sale and is a current product not end of life.
Seriously, though: this situation is /also/ no different than on a desktop PC. You can install all kinds of random software on that device, taking up as little or as much RAM as it wants, and you are even plugging random hardware peripherals into it and installing drivers into the kernel... this is /routine/. And here, somehow, on this device you put in your pocket, a device that is more powerful than the computer that was sitting on your desk just a decade ago, all of these common sense notions about "your bugs are your fault" have gone out the window? Come on...
This is exactly my point when people complain about "hackers". I point out that Mac OS X has a lot of applications, including some very popular applications, that use unapproved/unsupported techniques. 1Password, AdBlockPlus or any other Safari add-on is expressly unsupported by Apple, and Apple tech support won't help you until you remove such applications--yet nobody will deny that 1Password is pretty danged useful (in fact I know several Apple engineers that use 1Password themselves). Difference is on the desktop, you have a choice to not use Safari if it doesn't (auto-)fill your needs, or you can use an application that "hacks" into Safari. On the iPad, you have neither choice.
On the desktop Apple has no control over what users do to their Macs, and things seem to have worked out just fine. Apple is simply exerting control over iPhones/iPads to create vendor lockin and prevent user choice, which has always proven to fail in the long run.
I hate to break it to you, but the "malicious" ones actually tend to not be the best: people who can't make enough money with their skills to even purchase software, or feel the personal motivation to directly harm other people to feel good about themselves, tend to not be as amazing as the people who are actually doing something constructive.
Actually I do agree with you but only in part. History has shown that some of the best & brightest got their start at a young age dabbling in criminal activity. It was precisely because they were so good at what they did that later in life they are snatched up & given good jobs where they can actually put their talent to good use. So in this regard you are correct but you simplify too much.
I still believe strongly that some of the best are out there, undiscovered, & simply aren't putting it to good use because they are in it for the thrill & to stick it to the man.
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Hear hear!!
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You just listed the reasons why Apple fans want the iPad over others.
bigger screens - umm...that's the whole point. We don't want a bigger display on an iPad
made by Wacom - so what
running Windows - I just threw up a little
2 years old - old
Compaq tablet PC - I just threw up again
with a keyboard - we don't want to live in the past
You can't reason with Windows fanboys, all they understand are raw specs. They can't wrap their head around how much value software & functionality bring to a device because they are used to working on crap software that rarely functions as advertised.
They also can't seem to understand how hardware really works. They're always throwing out processor & memory without understanding that architecture & optimization are the true key to performance. You can get a Ford Mustang with a 4.6L V8 for like 1/4 the cost of a Porsche 911 with a 3.8L Flat6 but the 911 will run circles around the mustang.
OK. So making it better is just a side affect. I'll accept that.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001-03-29-hacker.htm
An old article, but still a valid one... Temple Grandin is a tremendous person, BTW.
I don't care for hackers.
They do not belong to the Apple platform, because they're not needed there.
What's the point in trying to ruin a good solution several people have worked so hard on creating?
A man wiser than I once said the following:
"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do."