Because like all State governments they want to spend as little money as possible. Not only is the hardware more expensive for the school but they can get deals from MS on site licensing.
Okay but that still doesn't explain why aren't they using Office for Mac...
They already have the MacBooks (zero additional cost) and they can still get a site license from MS (no additional cost over what it would be for Office for Windows).
Sounds promising. Maybe citrix is the iKevorkian... uh, killer app, for the iPad.
Still, wouldn't a native iPad app that could integrate with the hospital's back end system be even better and more persuasive?
Native apps may be better. But those applications would have to be rewritten. The citrix client integrates with the back end systems now. The application behavior is exactly like if you were at a pc, you just interact with them by touching them. Citrix has done an amazing job. There is no cursor and pinch to zoom works. Your native pc applications just work. The citrix server infrastructure is expensive, but many hospitals already have a citrix infrastructure.
Out of the box if you are delivering applications via citrix you have a killer reason to deploy them on ipads right now. They are less expensive, offer superior battery life and in many cases a more intuitive user interface when running applications using the citrix client. Any microsoft application can be deployed to a thin client iPad today.
Incidently our EMR vendor epic systems already has an iPhone client. They are developing an iPad app as well. That being said I can do anything I need to do using the citrix client. It's the same interface I use on my desktop with the same content.
EDIT: Well, we can argue this all day, but I think the sales numbers will, as usual, prove you wrong. Won't be long now.
Do you remember when he wanted to bet the forum that Apple's stock would drop from $200 to $170 before it went up to $270? It seems odd to make a bet that x drop would happen before x*2.3. Anyway, the stock has gone up $50 since then so if it were a fair bet he would have lost a long time ago.
Native apps may be better. But those applications would have to be rewritten. The citrix client integrates with the back end systems now. The application behavior is exactly like if you were at a pc, you just interact with them by touching them. Citrix has done an amazing job. There is no cursor and pinch to zoom works. Your native pc applications just work. The citrix server infrastructure is expensive, but many hospitals already have a citrix infrastructure.
Out of the box if you are delivering applications via citrix you have a killer reason to deploy them on ipads right now. They are less expensive, offer superior battery life and in many cases a more intuitive user interface when running applications using the citrix client. Any microsoft application can be deployed to a thin client iPad today.
Incidently our EMR vendor epic systems already has an iPhone client. They are developing an iPad app as well. That being said I can do anything I need to do using the citrix client. It's the same interface I use on my desktop with the same content.
No problem. OS 4's multitasking, filesystem encryption, ssl VPN support and the ability to host and distribute applications locally at an organization pushing software and configuration information from a central location will only make this device more viable.
I was told not to show my iPad running our hospital apps to doctors after I demoed them to our management. The CTO is putting in an order for 10 so we can work out any wireless networking kinks before we demo them to our physician champions. This device is the very definition of a disruptive technology.
I hope you have citrix delivered apps so you can try it out.
No problem. OS 4's multitasking, filesystem encryption, ssl VPN support and the ability to host and distribute applications locally at an organization pushing software and configuration information from a central location will only make this device more viable.
I was told not to show my iPad running our hospital apps to doctors after I demoed them to our management. The CTO is putting in an order for 10 so we can work out any wireless networking kinks before we demo them to our physician champions. This device is the very definition of a disruptive technology.
I hope you have citrix delivered apps so you can try it out.
Are they using the iPhone Configuration Utility to lock it down and manage them?
I do not think anybody has considered the demand from educational market - worldwide. In my line of work, when I went to university, I had to carry 10 lbs of books, starting with Gross Anatomy Text, Atlas, Histology Text + Atlas, etc, notes. Same in undergrad but not as heavy. HS also requires a lot of books.
The Kindle is good, but it does not have color text. Limited ability to download class notes, assignments, schedules. Access to the net gives instant reference sources.
Besides education, hospitals, and industry all could use the device. Instant access to EKGs, X-rays, lab results and even real time telemetry, medical records, etc. Health care is 17% of GDP... or at least, it was.
OTOH, it is far more likely you'd be mugged by a fellow student for your iPad versus a pile of textbooks.
Now, about the camera thing. If Apple really designed this thing to have "no orientation", then the only logical place to put the camera is in the middle of the screen. Putting it on the sides means you'd have to hold it up in a specific way (likely landscape since top and bottom are already taken).
I know at some point Apple will be able to economically produce the "2-way" camera/display they have a patent on. I don't have a source link, but I remember the patent describing a large camera and display which basically share pixel space, so a display would be made of thousands of tiny camera sensors which would be "stitched" together in software.
That's the plan. We only have a few iPhones in the organization right now. The IT executives and our network guys got them to test them out a few months ago. We've been on blackberries for a few years now and the doctors have been clamoring for iphones.
After we got some of our apps running using the citrix client I showed our desktop support team the features of the config utility and the features I'd read about coming in os 4.
I wish anyone doubting the device could have seen the looks on the Windows support guys faces when they were interacting with our windows apps on the iPad. The consensus was that they wished apple didn't make this, but it looks like we'll be supporting ipads now.
The CTO was giddy using the iPad and he was against deploying the iPhone.
And Dr. Millmoss may, or may not be a real doctor.
No worries if he isn't. I'm really surprised we aren't hearing more about the citrix client for iPad being huge for big business. It's possible that a lot of organizations are like mine and are just realizing how much this device can change computing in a mobile environment like a hospital. Before I showed them our apps running on it they were looking at it like a toy. "Sure, show us your iPad", when I showed them our apps running on it their whole demeanor changed. Especially when they interacted with them with their fingers, pinching and zooming on images within windows apps.
This demo off of citrix's site is similar to how we were interacting with our real world windows applications off of the ipad. It knocked the socks off of everyone. This is the killer app for business. Even if the HP Slate can run the client I doubt the interaction will be as impressive as on an ipad because the touch screen is inferior. Additionally the ipad has well over twice the battery life of the Slate and in mobile computing battery life matters.
Apple has a camera in the iPhone. What expert did Apple use for that but couldn't use for the iPad? Did Apple fire him?
We may never know. Apple may just want the fresh perspective that someone new could bring to the table, maybe to give them an idea they didn't have.
In regards to the other question (that I think was actually mentioned by another poster) about the camera spoiling the "free wheeling" nature of iPad orientations, that might not be a problem. Hardware and software that can perform real-time image adjustments (including the orientation of a camera's output) are easy to come by and not all that expensive.
Does anyone know if Apple will release the iPad 2.0 in a year or is this a hint that they are looking to make new models since they are running extremely low on stock?
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Why aren't they using Office for Mac?
Because like all State governments they want to spend as little money as possible. Not only is the hardware more expensive for the school but they can get deals from MS on site licensing.
Okay but that still doesn't explain why aren't they using Office for Mac...
They already have the MacBooks (zero additional cost) and they can still get a site license from MS (no additional cost over what it would be for Office for Windows).
Sounds promising. Maybe citrix is the iKevorkian... uh, killer app, for the iPad.
Still, wouldn't a native iPad app that could integrate with the hospital's back end system be even better and more persuasive?
Native apps may be better. But those applications would have to be rewritten. The citrix client integrates with the back end systems now. The application behavior is exactly like if you were at a pc, you just interact with them by touching them. Citrix has done an amazing job. There is no cursor and pinch to zoom works. Your native pc applications just work. The citrix server infrastructure is expensive, but many hospitals already have a citrix infrastructure.
Out of the box if you are delivering applications via citrix you have a killer reason to deploy them on ipads right now. They are less expensive, offer superior battery life and in many cases a more intuitive user interface when running applications using the citrix client. Any microsoft application can be deployed to a thin client iPad today.
Incidently our EMR vendor epic systems already has an iPhone client. They are developing an iPad app as well. That being said I can do anything I need to do using the citrix client. It's the same interface I use on my desktop with the same content.
EDIT: Well, we can argue this all day, but I think the sales numbers will, as usual, prove you wrong. Won't be long now.
Do you remember when he wanted to bet the forum that Apple's stock would drop from $200 to $170 before it went up to $270? It seems odd to make a bet that x drop would happen before x*2.3. Anyway, the stock has gone up $50 since then so if it were a fair bet he would have lost a long time ago.
Native apps may be better. But those applications would have to be rewritten. The citrix client integrates with the back end systems now. The application behavior is exactly like if you were at a pc, you just interact with them by touching them. Citrix has done an amazing job. There is no cursor and pinch to zoom works. Your native pc applications just work. The citrix server infrastructure is expensive, but many hospitals already have a citrix infrastructure.
Out of the box if you are delivering applications via citrix you have a killer reason to deploy them on ipads right now. They are less expensive, offer superior battery life and in many cases a more intuitive user interface when running applications using the citrix client. Any microsoft application can be deployed to a thin client iPad today.
Incidently our EMR vendor epic systems already has an iPhone client. They are developing an iPad app as well. That being said I can do anything I need to do using the citrix client. It's the same interface I use on my desktop with the same content.
+2 for useful content. Thanks!
+2 for useful content. Thanks!
No problem. OS 4's multitasking, filesystem encryption, ssl VPN support and the ability to host and distribute applications locally at an organization pushing software and configuration information from a central location will only make this device more viable.
I was told not to show my iPad running our hospital apps to doctors after I demoed them to our management. The CTO is putting in an order for 10 so we can work out any wireless networking kinks before we demo them to our physician champions. This device is the very definition of a disruptive technology.
I hope you have citrix delivered apps so you can try it out.
No problem. OS 4's multitasking, filesystem encryption, ssl VPN support and the ability to host and distribute applications locally at an organization pushing software and configuration information from a central location will only make this device more viable.
I was told not to show my iPad running our hospital apps to doctors after I demoed them to our management. The CTO is putting in an order for 10 so we can work out any wireless networking kinks before we demo them to our physician champions. This device is the very definition of a disruptive technology.
I hope you have citrix delivered apps so you can try it out.
Are they using the iPhone Configuration Utility to lock it down and manage them?
I do not think anybody has considered the demand from educational market - worldwide. In my line of work, when I went to university, I had to carry 10 lbs of books, starting with Gross Anatomy Text, Atlas, Histology Text + Atlas, etc, notes. Same in undergrad but not as heavy. HS also requires a lot of books.
The Kindle is good, but it does not have color text. Limited ability to download class notes, assignments, schedules. Access to the net gives instant reference sources.
Besides education, hospitals, and industry all could use the device. Instant access to EKGs, X-rays, lab results and even real time telemetry, medical records, etc. Health care is 17% of GDP... or at least, it was.
OTOH, it is far more likely you'd be mugged by a fellow student for your iPad versus a pile of textbooks.
Now, about the camera thing. If Apple really designed this thing to have "no orientation", then the only logical place to put the camera is in the middle of the screen. Putting it on the sides means you'd have to hold it up in a specific way (likely landscape since top and bottom are already taken).
I know at some point Apple will be able to economically produce the "2-way" camera/display they have a patent on. I don't have a source link, but I remember the patent describing a large camera and display which basically share pixel space, so a display would be made of thousands of tiny camera sensors which would be "stitched" together in software.
I hope you have citrix delivered apps so you can try it out.
Not me. I work at home.
Are they using the iPhone Configuration Utility to lock it down and manage them?
That's the plan. We only have a few iPhones in the organization right now. The IT executives and our network guys got them to test them out a few months ago. We've been on blackberries for a few years now and the doctors have been clamoring for iphones.
After we got some of our apps running using the citrix client I showed our desktop support team the features of the config utility and the features I'd read about coming in os 4.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/preview-iphone-os/
I wish anyone doubting the device could have seen the looks on the Windows support guys faces when they were interacting with our windows apps on the iPad. The consensus was that they wished apple didn't make this, but it looks like we'll be supporting ipads now.
The CTO was giddy using the iPad and he was against deploying the iPhone.
Not me. I work at home.
And Dr. Millmoss may, or may not be a real doctor.
And Dr. Millmoss may, or may not be a real doctor.
No worries if he isn't. I'm really surprised we aren't hearing more about the citrix client for iPad being huge for big business. It's possible that a lot of organizations are like mine and are just realizing how much this device can change computing in a mobile environment like a hospital. Before I showed them our apps running on it they were looking at it like a toy. "Sure, show us your iPad", when I showed them our apps running on it their whole demeanor changed. Especially when they interacted with them with their fingers, pinching and zooming on images within windows apps.
This demo off of citrix's site is similar to how we were interacting with our real world windows applications off of the ipad. It knocked the socks off of everyone. This is the killer app for business. Even if the HP Slate can run the client I doubt the interaction will be as impressive as on an ipad because the touch screen is inferior. Additionally the ipad has well over twice the battery life of the Slate and in mobile computing battery life matters.
Apple has a camera in the iPhone. What expert did Apple use for that but couldn't use for the iPad? Did Apple fire him?
We may never know.
In regards to the other question (that I think was actually mentioned by another poster) about the camera spoiling the "free wheeling" nature of iPad orientations, that might not be a problem. Hardware and software that can perform real-time image adjustments (including the orientation of a camera's output) are easy to come by and not all that expensive.
And Dr. Millmoss may, or may not be a real doctor.
And you may be neither spam nor a sandwich, but from here it's hard to tell.
Through the magic of the internet:
And you may be neither spam nor a sandwich, but from here it's hard to tell.
Through the magic of the internet:
image: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GTvTUANkAJ...r_millmoss.jpg
As I recall, you said this pic wasn't too far off...