And from everyone who was just about to buy a soon to be has-been iPhone a big THANKS!!
Apple screwed up, a mistake occurred and they just have to live with it and do better next time.
They can´t go around trying to change a tigers stripes or make the world obey their wishes.
Imagine if the guy or Gizmodo sold the iPhone to the Chinese?
Yea! Count your blessings you got it back.
I'm sure Apple IS glad that a bunch of rank amateurs stole the thing, instead of professional spies.
I don't get the "someone who was about to by a soon to be has-been iPhone" comment. Are you saying that you were planning to buy one, but now you won't, because um, well, I guess because someone stole the prototype? nah, makes no sense ... so what do you mean, really?
Well, let's see if you can understand simple context:
1. The title of the thread is "Gizmodo may attempt to sue police over iPhone prototype raid"
2. You posted a message that said "I personally hope the engineer files suit for them dragging his name through the mud"
Since you didn't say who 'them' is, it's not unreasonable to assume that you meant the police. I can see how you could have meant Gizmodo, but I don't think you should be calling someone 'dullard' when you can't seem to write a paragraph clearly stating your intent.
I knew exactly what "Mr. Sweaters" meant. Especially the "dullard" part.
I think the story here is likely to turn out to be in large part how Gawker hung Chen out to dry. If I were Chen's personal lawyer I wouls have advised him against doing these even if there is some kind of argument otherwise.
P.s. The headline is retarded. "may attempt to sue." you mean they may sue? I cant imagine an attempt to sue. What do they keep dropping dead a foot from the clerk?
I say hang the bastards for their publicity stunt. They ruined the excitement. It used to be that the world waits for Steve to present the latest marvel, now the world may be waiting to confirm. What kind of bullshit is that. All because of Gizmodo?
Yes, I say hang the bastards!
They ruined the excitement so hang them? Ummm did you forget what site this is? This and MacRumors are the kings of ruining excitement sites. And you can bet AI LOVED to have all that excitement ruining info on their site when it broke.
Some people are messed up. It could legitimately be a newsroom. This is the internet. A newsroom doesn't have to be located at FOX news. They are a legit news reporting company. If the police broke any laws they should also be punished/sued.
Yes, Gizmodo did invoke "neener neener" repeatedly until they realized they were being watched by the grown ups. They then shifted to the "did not" defense, but when hit with the "did too" charges, they quickly shifted to the "waaaa, waaaa" position.
Jury will be supplied with crying towels during closing arguments.
I'm posting this from the bar where the iPhone prototype was stolen. OMG, the beer is awesome. So are the pretzels. If you live anywhere around here, you MUST go to this place. It will change your life...even if you don't lose the next generation iPhone.
Also, for what it's worth...if you were a phone thief, this place would keep you busy. There are iPhones, Blackberrys and whatnot all over the counters.
Yes, Gizmodo did invoke "neener neener" repeatedly until they realized they were being watched by the grown ups. They then shifted to the "did not" defense, but when hit with the "did too" charges, they quickly shifted to the "waaaa, waaaa" position.
Jury will be supplied with crying towels during closing arguments.
Their defense should be that Apple must prove malice of forethought. They should be putting it upon Apple to prove they (Gawker/Gizmodo) had knowledge what they were paying for exclusive right to was stolen property.
There are already a few things that make the warrant questionable, such as Apple had already regained possession of their property after Gizmodo proved it was actually Apple property and not a knock of by going the extra step of disassembling it.
The additional fact that the authorities had knowledge and have admitted to interviewing the party that had possession of the iPhone before said party sold it to Gawker and Gawker handed it over to Gizmodo to both verify its authenticity and report their findings.
IOW, they acted as reporters would.
The onus is on Apple. They quietly reported their item stolen and work under the assumption everyone involved with it would therefore know it was stolen, then utilized their influence to enact gestapo tactics of raiding a, for all intents and purposes, reporter's home to get.......what? They had everything Gizmodo had and they should have instead gone after the parent company, Gawker.
There was no reason to raid Jason Chen's home after they received back their property and at that point it should have either progressed to either a criminal investigation, charging Gawker with purchasing stolen property, Jason Chen with momentary possession of stolen property, and the perpetrator with the actual act of stealing said property, or a civil suit.
They have actually destroyed any case they had against Gizmodo or Gawker before it even happened by going for a theatrical show of force rather than following criminal procedure.
Their defense should be that Apple must prove malice of forethought. They should be putting it upon Apple to prove they (Gawker/Gizmodo) had knowledge what they were paying for exclusive right to was stolen property.
There are already a few things that make the warrant questionable, such as Apple had already regained possession of their property after Gizmodo proved it was actually Apple property and not a knock of by going the extra step of disassembling it.
The additional fact that the authorities had knowledge and have admitted to interviewing the party that had possession of the iPhone before said party sold it to Gawker and Gawker handed it over to Gizmodo to both verify its authenticity and report their findings.
IOW, they acted as reporters would.
The onus is on Apple. They quietly reported their item stolen and work under the assumption everyone involved with it would therefore know it was stolen, then utilized their influence to enact gestapo tactics of raiding a, for all intents and purposes, reporter's home to get.......what? They had everything Gizmodo had and they should have instead gone after the parent company, Gawker.
There was no reason to raid Jason Chen's home after they received back their property and at that point it should have either progressed to either a criminal investigation, charging Gawker with purchasing stolen property, Jason Chen with momentary possession of stolen property, and the perpetrator with the actual act of stealing said property.
They have actually destroyed any case they had against Gizmodo or Gawker before it even happened by going for a theatrical show of force rather than following criminal procedure.
Let the flaming and name calling begin.......
Just curious, are you in any way related to Gaby Derbyshire?
Just curious, are you in any way related to Gaby Derbyshire?
Nope. Beside the fact I live no where near california, am on the other coast, and if you search the previous thread on this issue, I made light of her little clothing malfunction.....
On second thought....yeah....I'm her mom.
I love seeing my little girl smashed beyond belief and showing her nipples to the world.
If I ever read a serious thing on this site I would also expect to see unicorns prancing down the streets, leprechauns giving away pots of gold, and skittles raining from the sky.
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Ah yes, the finders keepers precedent, established in Mrs. Bergmans 3rd grade class. With the losers weepers provision I assume. ...
Didn't Gizmodo also attempt to invoke the neener-neener provision?
Didn't Gizmodo also attempt to invoke the neener-neener provision?
Lol. Yes, yes they did.
Awesome.
Go Gizmodo!
And from everyone who was just about to buy a soon to be has-been iPhone a big THANKS!!
Apple screwed up, a mistake occurred and they just have to live with it and do better next time.
They can´t go around trying to change a tigers stripes or make the world obey their wishes.
Imagine if the guy or Gizmodo sold the iPhone to the Chinese?
Yea! Count your blessings you got it back.
I'm sure Apple IS glad that a bunch of rank amateurs stole the thing, instead of professional spies.
I don't get the "someone who was about to by a soon to be has-been iPhone" comment. Are you saying that you were planning to buy one, but now you won't, because um, well, I guess because someone stole the prototype? nah, makes no sense ... so what do you mean, really?
Didn't Gizmodo also attempt to invoke the neener-neener provision?
They are also preparing to use the 'Liar, liar, pants on fire" defense.
Well, let's see if you can understand simple context:
1. The title of the thread is "Gizmodo may attempt to sue police over iPhone prototype raid"
2. You posted a message that said "I personally hope the engineer files suit for them dragging his name through the mud"
Since you didn't say who 'them' is, it's not unreasonable to assume that you meant the police. I can see how you could have meant Gizmodo, but I don't think you should be calling someone 'dullard' when you can't seem to write a paragraph clearly stating your intent.
I knew exactly what "Mr. Sweaters" meant. Especially the "dullard" part.
They are also preparing to use the 'Liar, liar, pants on fire" defense.
Well, it would seem congruent with their prior comments/behavior.
Jason Chen has retained outside criminal counsel.
I think the story here is likely to turn out to be in large part how Gawker hung Chen out to dry. If I were Chen's personal lawyer I wouls have advised him against doing these even if there is some kind of argument otherwise.
P.s. The headline is retarded. "may attempt to sue." you mean they may sue? I cant imagine an attempt to sue. What do they keep dropping dead a foot from the clerk?
I say hang the bastards for their publicity stunt. They ruined the excitement. It used to be that the world waits for Steve to present the latest marvel, now the world may be waiting to confirm. What kind of bullshit is that. All because of Gizmodo?
Yes, I say hang the bastards!
They ruined the excitement so hang them? Ummm did you forget what site this is? This and MacRumors are the kings of ruining excitement sites. And you can bet AI LOVED to have all that excitement ruining info on their site when it broke.
Some people are messed up. It could legitimately be a newsroom. This is the internet. A newsroom doesn't have to be located at FOX news. They are a legit news reporting company. If the police broke any laws they should also be punished/sued.
Lol. Yes, yes they did.
Awesome.
Yes, Gizmodo did invoke "neener neener" repeatedly until they realized they were being watched by the grown ups. They then shifted to the "did not" defense, but when hit with the "did too" charges, they quickly shifted to the "waaaa, waaaa" position.
Jury will be supplied with crying towels during closing arguments.
Finding lost property is never theft.
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There was no basis for a search and seizure warrant. Sue for punitive damages.
If you're not a lawyer or law student, then read CA Penal Code section 485 and try again.
I'd you're a law student, take legal research over again.
If you're a lawyer don't advise clients. Ever.
Also, for what it's worth...if you were a phone thief, this place would keep you busy. There are iPhones, Blackberrys and whatnot all over the counters.
They are also preparing to use the 'Liar, liar, pants on fire" defense.
Excellent analysis! I was thinking "I'm rubber, you're glue", but "liar, liar" is clearly more appropriate.
Yes, Gizmodo did invoke "neener neener" repeatedly until they realized they were being watched by the grown ups. They then shifted to the "did not" defense, but when hit with the "did too" charges, they quickly shifted to the "waaaa, waaaa" position.
Jury will be supplied with crying towels during closing arguments.
Two thumbs up!
Their defense should be that Apple must prove malice of forethought. They should be putting it upon Apple to prove they (Gawker/Gizmodo) had knowledge what they were paying for exclusive right to was stolen property.
There are already a few things that make the warrant questionable, such as Apple had already regained possession of their property after Gizmodo proved it was actually Apple property and not a knock of by going the extra step of disassembling it.
The additional fact that the authorities had knowledge and have admitted to interviewing the party that had possession of the iPhone before said party sold it to Gawker and Gawker handed it over to Gizmodo to both verify its authenticity and report their findings.
IOW, they acted as reporters would.
The onus is on Apple. They quietly reported their item stolen and work under the assumption everyone involved with it would therefore know it was stolen, then utilized their influence to enact gestapo tactics of raiding a, for all intents and purposes, reporter's home to get.......what? They had everything Gizmodo had and they should have instead gone after the parent company, Gawker.
There was no reason to raid Jason Chen's home after they received back their property and at that point it should have either progressed to either a criminal investigation, charging Gawker with purchasing stolen property, Jason Chen with momentary possession of stolen property, and the perpetrator with the actual act of stealing said property, or a civil suit.
They have actually destroyed any case they had against Gizmodo or Gawker before it even happened by going for a theatrical show of force rather than following criminal procedure.
Let the flaming and name calling begin.......
Gizmodo must have extremely stupid attorneys.
Their defense should be that Apple must prove malice of forethought. They should be putting it upon Apple to prove they (Gawker/Gizmodo) had knowledge what they were paying for exclusive right to was stolen property.
There are already a few things that make the warrant questionable, such as Apple had already regained possession of their property after Gizmodo proved it was actually Apple property and not a knock of by going the extra step of disassembling it.
The additional fact that the authorities had knowledge and have admitted to interviewing the party that had possession of the iPhone before said party sold it to Gawker and Gawker handed it over to Gizmodo to both verify its authenticity and report their findings.
IOW, they acted as reporters would.
The onus is on Apple. They quietly reported their item stolen and work under the assumption everyone involved with it would therefore know it was stolen, then utilized their influence to enact gestapo tactics of raiding a, for all intents and purposes, reporter's home to get.......what? They had everything Gizmodo had and they should have instead gone after the parent company, Gawker.
There was no reason to raid Jason Chen's home after they received back their property and at that point it should have either progressed to either a criminal investigation, charging Gawker with purchasing stolen property, Jason Chen with momentary possession of stolen property, and the perpetrator with the actual act of stealing said property.
They have actually destroyed any case they had against Gizmodo or Gawker before it even happened by going for a theatrical show of force rather than following criminal procedure.
Let the flaming and name calling begin.......
Just curious, are you in any way related to Gaby Derbyshire?
Just curious, are you in any way related to Gaby Derbyshire?
Nope. Beside the fact I live no where near california, am on the other coast, and if you search the previous thread on this issue, I made light of her little clothing malfunction.....
On second thought....yeah....I'm her mom.
I love seeing my little girl smashed beyond belief and showing her nipples to the world.
Are you freaking serious?!?!?
You mean after cruising around the country for weeks desperately "trying" to find the owner!
no silly, after trying to find various other news agencies that offer lost/found/locate and return services.
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Are you freaking serious?!?!?
Not in the least.
Not in the least.
I would hope not.
Nothing on this site is serious.
If I ever read a serious thing on this site I would also expect to see unicorns prancing down the streets, leprechauns giving away pots of gold, and skittles raining from the sky.