Apple's iPad beating Kindle for news, but hurt by Amazon contracts

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    steviestevie Posts: 956member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by interfx View Post


    I have all 3 apps (NYT, WSJ, and USAToday)... What I don't understand is why USAToday is free and works offline just fine... and NYT & WSJ seem to want to charge a premium for their news...





    Others comments?





    Use Google News. You get 4000 newspapers for free, and you can choose which paper(s) is (are) best for each story.



    I read the NYT and the Washington Post and the Boston Globe every day for some types of news. Lately I've been reading Gulf Coast newspapers regarding the oil spill. Whenever there's trouble in the mideast, I read both the Jerusalem Post and Al Jazeera.



    In this day and age, I don't understand subscribing to any one newspaper.
  • Reply 22 of 30
    steviestevie Posts: 956member
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    Originally Posted by Intellectsoft View Post


    iPad developers [/URL]would come with some app that aggregates news from a number of selected news feeds while providing some basic set of search filters it would be just amazing. People who search stock news, or news on some particular company would appreciate finding relevant and up-to-date info literally on the go.







    It has been done already. It is called Google News. Try it.
  • Reply 23 of 30
    steviestevie Posts: 956member
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    Originally Posted by krreagan View Post


    Personally I think the Amazon contracts are anti-competitive and should be investigated as such. Having in your contract that someone cannot sell to someone else for a lesser price when the price is defined in your contract is anti-competitive.



    KRR



    Classic anticomnpetative behavior.



    If Amazon had monopoly power, it would be illegal. As of now, anybody can sign with Amazon's competition instead of them, however.
  • Reply 24 of 30
    The problem with the dying print media is that they are desperately searching for revenue. And here's the important part...they think that by charging more for their content digitally they can get it, and that consumers will pay more for the convenience. What they don't seem to grok is that free sites beat them to the punch. I guess if you want their "filter" then you'll be willing to pay for it though.
  • Reply 25 of 30
    caliminiuscaliminius Posts: 944member
    So how exactly is "iPad beating Kindle for news" ? I couldn't find anywhere in this article that explained what that part of the article's title meant except the obvious need to faun over Apple. I even tried the linked article thinking maybe it was buried there, but still no dice.
  • Reply 26 of 30
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by applecider View Post


    The problem with the dying print media is that they are desperately searching for revenue. And here's the important part...they think that by charging more for their content digitally they can get it, and that consumers will pay more for the convenience. What they don't seem to grok is that free sites beat them to the punch. I guess if you want their "filter" then you'll be willing to pay for it though.



    The so-called "free sites" are simply re-digesting the news they get from the so-called dying print media, or just spouting opinions. Believe it or not, news gathering costs actual money.
  • Reply 27 of 30
    masternavmasternav Posts: 442member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Superbass View Post


    That most bands can't earn a decent profit selling individual songs for 99 cents?



    That 128 kbps (now 160 kbps) might make iTunes' servers a lot cheaper to manage, but result in shit sound quality, which in turn decreases the emotional effect of music on people?



    That the loss of contact with a physical product causes people to value an item infinitely less?



    That offering partial content downloads causes the industry to focus more on hit songs than the album as an art form?



    That local artists/newspapers have no chance of getting the prime shelf space on iTunes/iBookstore that they used to be able get at physical stores because the big labels/publishing giants have deals with Apple?



    ...erode their credibility?



    Sure, if you are locked into the music industry framework - a band CAN'T earn a decent profit from a song sold at .99 - especially if what you are counting on is one good song in an album full of crap.



    Shit for some is beauty for others - purely a personal opinion not shared by a majority of users. Really? A loss of emotional effect - you mean I could hate mediocre music MORE?? Crap on lossless is still crap Just as crap on CD is just physical format crap. Unless of course the music is so GOOD it doesn't really matter what format it is in, right?



    Or are you justifying selling crap on CD as justifying it's existence because you have a sliver of laser-coded plastic - which will be replaced by the recording industry with a "better" format so they can resell me all the stuff I already own in another format.



    Album as an artform - what percent of all albums sold to date were produced as a holist "artform" - 1-2% maybe? Utter crap. It serves to focus a bloated overweight, inefficient parasitic industry on getting out more acceptably popular or formula music because they don't have the same control over the radio station playlists they used to and have to front more consistently listenable music to drive revenue. I was devastated when I heard about the destitute music industry CEO having to sell off two of his eleven houses around the world to cover back-taxes he forgot to pay. Yeah. Right.



    The only time local bands got to put stuff in local stores is when they were boutique stores and not part of one of the national chains that eventually dried up most of the boutique sales anyway through aggressive sales and special deals. And yeah if you check - you will find that the iTunes store has a growing indy section they have been trying to promote for quite a while. Nice try.



    I have listened to and purchased more music across a wider swathe of genre because of digital downloads than I ever purchased on wax, S8 cassette or CD. Are you bathing in the recording industry koolaid?





    /rant



    Now back to our regularly scheduled topic.



    Some sources will get the format, pricing and digital model quicker than others - it's an evolutionary thing if you will. It's just a matter of the periodical publishers either figuring it out or slowly thrashing themselves to death. Those that get it will figure out a model that works for the average consumer and will generate the revenues they need. Just like email and fax slowly replaced the use of the post office for routine communication via letters.
  • Reply 28 of 30
    freddychfreddych Posts: 266member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stevie View Post


    Classic anticomnpetative behavior.



    If Amazon had monopoly power, it would be illegal. As of now, anybody can sign with Amazon's competition instead of them, however.



    Contracts like this are prevalent everywhere. Many large vendor contracts include what is called a MFN clause ("most favored nation"). All they do is require the seller to give the buyer the same price as a competitor. The way it's characterized is a little misleading.
  • Reply 29 of 30
    wuchmeewuchmee Posts: 41member
    So the app is anemic; just access the full web site via Safari. Very satisfying.



    That said, it's killing me that I can't get crosswords or KenKen because of the Flash brouhaha.
  • Reply 30 of 30
    colearnekcolearnek Posts: 5member
    Maybe it's not the same for all of you, but most of the people I know who bought iPads had to aggressively save their money and sometimes do without other things to afford them. These media moguls and the like seem to be forgetting about the poor economy and serious unemployment when they are pricing their offerings a "what the market will bear".



    One of the things I was super excited about was being able to get Magazines and Newspapers because with small children at home I had given up on being able to find time to read them and canceled all my subscriptions. However, with AT&T charging me a separate $30 dollar data plan for the pad on top of all my iPhone cost my discretionary money for any more monthly fees is severely limited.



    I am going to continue to use Google news and websites until some of these content providers come to their senses. Even with the added functionality of a digital edition I can't see spending more for it than the print edition since i know they must be saving on the printing side.



    I for one like the NYT app and while I would welcome more at least they tried.
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