Apple's WWDC event sold out in just 8 days

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  • Reply 21 of 40
    blursdblursd Posts: 123member
    I asked my eight year old nephew a couple weeks ago what he would like for his birthday, and his response was, "tickets to this years WWDC!". I just kind of sat there scratching my head, and said "... Is there anything else you might want...?".



    Now I have a good excuse ... "I'm sorry but they sold out before I could get one."
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  • Reply 22 of 40
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Everything you need is in the documentation anyway.
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  • Reply 23 of 40
    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blursd View Post


    I asked my eight year old nephew a couple weeks ago what he would like for his birthday, and his response was, "tickets to this years WWDC!". I just kind of sat there scratching my head, and said "... Is there anything else you might want...?".



    Now I have a good excuse ... "I'm sorry but they sold out before I could get one."



    Birthday favors for your nephew don't come easy.
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  • Reply 24 of 40
    lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,173member
    Quote:

    I know you're joking but let's quantify this. How big are Buffett's venues and how much are the tickets? Both relevant to the speed in which an event could sell out.



    I take myself so seriously. *Sounds of crickets chirping.



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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  • Reply 25 of 40
    lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,173member
    The Mac 'exclusion' is somewhat disappointing. But let's face it, 10.7 is probably some ways off if history is anything to go by. And when it crash lands, let's hope it's something special. But Snow Leopard is excellent. She'll keep for a few years yet. And Mac sales are looking after themselves. They're smart, evolved designs that give the user the best 'whole widget' simple, elegant while powerful computer experience in the whole industry. Sure, it's been a while since we've had anything radical...or is it? The iPad is the most radical Mac yet. And it's far better value than the Mini! It even comes with its own screen and keyboard!



    ...Apple are betting the company on the iPhone 'OS' and the iPad. They don't want to make the same mistake as they did the last time re: 1984 and the Mac. They've got a chance to reach critical mass and stay there in the 3rd Great Age of Computing. It's highly likely that Steve is well aware of the 'Micrsoftonian' threat from Google's phone clone army. Ergo, developer support, pushing the iPhone OS and related hardware to the limits is the priority. And iPhone and iPad sales are nowhere near the zenith of sales either. They've yet to truly explode...and when they do, god knows where the Appel stock is going. Past M$ for a start, I guess.



    To be honest. The Mac is old news. There's a computer paradigm shift going on...represented by Steve's new babies...iPhone and iPad. You can kinda see where things are going. The Mac gets to take a back seat? Or like the Lisa before it...has it evolved into something else?



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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  • Reply 26 of 40
    danielswdanielsw Posts: 906member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    The Mac 'exclusion' is somewhat disappointing. But let's face it, 10.7 is probably some ways off if history is anything to go by. And when it crash lands, let's hope it's something special. But Snow Leopard is excellent. She'll keep for a few years yet. And Mac sales are looking after themselves. They're smart, evolved designs that give the user the best 'whole widget' simple, elegant while powerful computer experience in the whole industry. Sure, it's been a while since we've had anything radical...or is it? The iPad is the most radical Mac yet. And it's far better value than the Mini! It even comes with its own screen and keyboard!



    ...Apple are betting the company on the iPhone 'OS' and the iPad. They don't want to make the same mistake as they did the last time re: 1984 and the Mac. They've got a chance to reach critical mass and stay there in the 3rd Great Age of Computing. It's highly likely that Steve is well aware of the 'Micrsoftonian' threat from Google's phone clone army. Ergo, developer support, pushing the iPhone OS and related hardware to the limits is the priority. And iPhone and iPad sales are nowhere near the zenith of sales either. They've yet to truly explode...and when they do, god knows where the Appel stock is going. Past M$ for a start, I guess.



    To be honest. The Mac is old news. There's a computer paradigm shift going on...represented by Steve's new babies...iPhone and iPad. You can kinda see where things are going. The Mac gets to take a back seat? Or like the Lisa before it...has it evolved into something else?



    Lemon Bon Bon.



    At last, someone (else) with some clear vision!



    It's obvious to me, too, that WWDC is the time and place to turn up the heat on promoting iPhone OS. It's a really golden opportunity which at least most of the attendees must recognize, as well.



    I'm not concerned about the viability of Mac OS X, as evidenced by Snow Leopard and the rumored new Mac Pro's. That "spinning plate" will keep spinning nicely on its own for a while.



    This is Apple's chance to cultivate its iPhone OS "garden" of developers which it needs, the choicest fruits from which will significantly fuel the adoption of iPhone OS products well in advance of any potential competition--hopefully in important areas of enterprise, corporate, government, education, etc.



    I don't think there's any danger of Mac cannibalization, as iPhone OS products were designed to complement, not replace them. If anything, there will be even more of a halo effect from iPhone OS products to BOLSTER future Mac sales.



    This kind of bold, industry-if-not-Earth-shattering strategical planning is possible ONLY with the inspired leadership of Steve Jobs. It takes an individual such as him with vision and drive and big brass cojones to pull it off and drive and direct a large company's concerted team efforts over the long term.



    Long live Steve Jobs! Hip, hip, hooray!
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  • Reply 27 of 40
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member
    But I thought developers were angry at Apple and were sick of their walled garden?



    At least that's what the experts on AppleInsider told me.
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  • Reply 28 of 40
    wally626wally626 Posts: 72member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    I take myself so seriously. *Sounds of crickets chirping.



    Lemon Bon Bon.



    Looks like Buffets 2010 tour is around 25 dates, the site only lists future dates so I am estimating based on the number per month for the summer. I checked two venues both seat 25,000. If all sites have this capacity that would be a total of 625,000 tickets. At one of the venues the tickets range form $305 to $52, So if we make a guess of $100 average (more cheap tickets) that gives a total take for the season of $62,500,000. The ADC maxs at $1599 and 5000 seats for a total of $7,995,000. so Jimmy's appearance fees are about 10X greater, but Steve's total take is a lot lot more.
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  • Reply 29 of 40
    onhkaonhka Posts: 1,025member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Yep. Also, you don't need to be a paid iPhone dev but you need to have a developer account.



    Not for all of them.

    Quote:

    You must be registered as an Apple Developer to download the full version of the Essentials videos. The full version of the Advanced videos and iPhone Developer Forums are available to members of the iPhone Developer Program.



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  • Reply 30 of 40
    onhkaonhka Posts: 1,025member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    But I thought developers were angry at Apple and were sick of their walled garden?



    At least that's what the experts on AppleInsider told me.



    Not Mac developers.
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  • Reply 31 of 40
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    But, but, but........



    I thought no Flash was going to keep the developers away in droves!
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  • Reply 32 of 40
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by msantti View Post


    But, but, but........



    I thought no Flash was going to keep the developers away in droves!







    No one keeps scorecards for the pundits.



    Mac sales are going to do find. I do believe in a "Halo" of sort for Macs. Apple continues to broaden the scope of OS X technologies across both OS. We now have Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL on the iPhone meaning that if you're a Mac developer the same principals (and code) can be utilized on iPhone OS.



    By iPhone OS 5 and beyond we may see so much sharing between Mac OS X and iPhone OS that those iPhone developers that wish to make Mac applications would simply need to run their iPhone through Xcode and have most of the work done for them save for the interface work and other specific to the platform features.



    If Apple creates the ability to easily create Mac apps from iPhone apps they create an instant bonanza for the Mac and this will certainly keep the Mac strong. So I look at the iPhone/iPad success as being something that could and should benefit the Mac as well.



    Update:



    I see someone has already started work on just such a thing.



    UMEKit takes iPhone apps to Mac



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  • Reply 33 of 40
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,715member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon. View Post


    The Mac 'exclusion' is somewhat disappointing. But let's face it, 10.7 is probably some ways off if history is anything to go by. And when it crash lands, let's hope it's something special. But Snow Leopard is excellent. She'll keep for a few years yet. And Mac sales are looking after themselves. They're smart, evolved designs that give the user the best 'whole widget' simple, elegant while powerful computer experience in the whole industry. Sure, it's been a while since we've had anything radical...or is it? The iPad is the most radical Mac yet. And it's far better value than the Mini! It even comes with its own screen and keyboard!



    ...Apple are betting the company on the iPhone 'OS' and the iPad. They don't want to make the same mistake as they did the last time re: 1984 and the Mac. They've got a chance to reach critical mass and stay there in the 3rd Great Age of Computing. It's highly likely that Steve is well aware of the 'Micrsoftonian' threat from Google's phone clone army. Ergo, developer support, pushing the iPhone OS and related hardware to the limits is the priority. And iPhone and iPad sales are nowhere near the zenith of sales either. They've yet to truly explode...and when they do, god knows where the Appel stock is going. Past M$ for a start, I guess.



    To be honest. The Mac is old news. There's a computer paradigm shift going on...represented by Steve's new babies...iPhone and iPad. You can kinda see where things are going. The Mac gets to take a back seat? Or like the Lisa before it...has it evolved into something else?



    Lemon Bon Bon.



    The iPhone OS and devices are the "new thing" Jobs said he would move to after he "milked the Mac for all it was worth", which is what he said he would do when asked about it if he ever came back to Apple shortly after their problems began.



    So I'm surprised that people don't see this happening. I doubt that he's going to leave the tens of billions the Mac represents on the table, but it's pretty clear that the over, and still climbing 1 billion cell phone sales a year, is something that Jobs sees Apple can move into in a big way. While Apple may never get to 10% worldwide computer sales (though they might), 10% worldwide cell phone sales are surely possible. At 100 million phones a year, at an average of $500 per phone, that's $50 billion a year, or almost as much as Apple's total sales will be this fiscal year, and that's already including a big chunk of phone revenue. Now, include iPod Touch and iPad sales, and we could be talking $70 to 80 billion a year in a few years just for iPhone OS segments. Then there's the App Store, iADs, iTunes music, Tv, and movies,etc.
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  • Reply 34 of 40
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,715member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by msantti View Post


    But, but, but........



    I thought no Flash was going to keep the developers away in droves!



    Well, I suppose if Apple went to a venue with 50,000 seats, they wouldn't be filled. Then it could be said.
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  • Reply 35 of 40
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,657member
    If they want to keep the WWDC limited to 5000 participants, they should stream the sessions (doesn't necessarily have to be live) and permit people to participate remotely at much lower cost (or even free). When it comes down to it (I know there are several different tracks, but) why do you have to be there if you're just sitting in a large session room staring at a tiny figure on stage and a large screen where the real action is.



    Also, it's probably time to have two separate conferences per year, one for the Mac OS and one for the iPhone/iPad OS. Just because there's nothing completely new for the Mac OS this year doesn't mean that developers don't need help or can't learn something new about the existing OS.
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  • Reply 36 of 40
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,715member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post




    Also, it's probably time to have two separate conferences per year, one for the Mac OS and one for the iPhone/iPad OS. Just because there's nothing completely new for the Mac OS this year doesn't mean that developers don't need help or can't learn something new about the existing OS.



    It may come down to that.
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  • Reply 37 of 40
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Feynman View Post


    Don't hold your breath on Mac OS 10.7 making in light of day at WWDC this year.



    Maybe now I know how Apple II developers must have felt as Macintosh took over the Apple world.
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  • Reply 38 of 40
    lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,173member
    Quote:

    Mac sales are going to do find. I do believe in a "Halo" of sort for Macs. Apple continues to broaden the scope of OS X technologies across both OS. We now have Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL on the iPhone meaning that if you're a Mac developer the same principals (and code) can be utilized on iPhone OS.



    By iPhone OS 5 and beyond we may see so much sharing between Mac OS X and iPhone OS that those iPhone developers that wish to make Mac applications would simply need to run their iPhone through Xcode and have most of the work done for them save for the interface work and other specific to the platform features.



    If Apple creates the ability to easily create Mac apps from iPhone apps they create an instant bonanza for the Mac and this will certainly keep the Mac strong. So I look at the iPhone/iPad success as being something that could and should benefit the Mac as well.



    Update:



    I see someone has already started work on just such a thing.



    UMEKit takes iPhone apps to Mac



    Good catch, Hmurchison.



    It was only a matter of time? Hey, does this now boost the Mac's software portfolio by 200k apps?



    :O



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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  • Reply 39 of 40
    lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,173member
    Quote:

    The iPhone OS and devices are the "new thing" Jobs said he would move to after he "milked the Mac for all it was worth", which is what he said he would do when asked about it if he ever came back to Apple shortly after their problems began.



    So I'm surprised that people don't see this happening. I doubt that he's going to leave the tens of billions the Mac represents on the table, but it's pretty clear that the over, and still climbing 1 billion cell phone sales a year, is something that Jobs sees Apple can move into in a big way. While Apple may never get to 10% worldwide computer sales (though they might), 10% worldwide cell phone sales are surely possible. At 100 million phones a year, at an average of $500 per phone, that's $50 billion a year, or almost as much as Apple's total sales will be this fiscal year, and that's already including a big chunk of phone revenue. Now, include iPod Touch and iPad sales, and we could be talking $70 to 80 billion a year in a few years just for iPhone OS segments. Then there's the App Store, iADs, iTunes music, Tv, and movies,etc.



    Word. *Nods.



    Lemon Bon Bon.
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  • Reply 40 of 40
    ibgarrettibgarrett Posts: 21member
    iPod/iPhone/iPad = Content consumption



    Macs (and, well those "other platforms) = Content creation



    There's far more users consuming content than creating it, and with advertising thrown into the mix, probably more revenue. The problem is Apple really needs to do a better job supporting the content creators (and thus Enterprise) than they ever have. But that's also not Steve's forte either.



    Brian
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