On one hand you're saying you dont give a shit whether it happens... as long as it doesn't happen in your alley?. Surely if you accept one you have to accept the other as a nasty side effect?</strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>Yes and no. Yes in that it keeps it off the streets and usually keeps it cleaner (Nevada). No in that it's just plain wrong.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What makes it wrong? Your ridiculous religious "morals"? Give me a break.
Let me call upon the wisdom of one of the greatest prophets this world has seen--George Carlin.
Selling is legal. F**king is legal. Why isn't selling f**king legal?
there are real public health issues with illegal prostitution . . .and, there is the social problem exemplified by scott_h's violated back alley ( )
legalizing prostitution with strict regulations would probably solve or at least emeliorate some of these issues. It would also help lead the US to a more mature attitude towards sex.
But, it is because of our attitude (both indulgent in the media but then ultra puritan and moralistic (aka: hypocritical)) that we will never legalize it: could you imagine a politician running for office with a legalize prostitution platform...not in the forseeable future.
I have never paid for sex... never even wined and dined just for sex.... but I have (though not often) paid for sex movies (back when there were theatres and no internet) and a few strip clubs... where I lived it was the only place to get beer after 2am . . . . dancing is truly NOT erotic, even when the girls are really cute.
Any time children are used it is wrong, no need to discuss that, and street prostitution is bad since it causes other crimes and the women (men) who do it are really messed up. I don't think any of them want to do it, but can't get out of it. That's sad and should not be supported.
However, high class call girls who want to do it and brothels are okay I guess as long as the women aren't forced into it and have control over their money. The problem is those kind of women are very rare. For every rich man's courtesan there are dozens of "crack whores" who really need help.
I dont really feel much sympathy for the crack whores. At some point in their life, they made a decision to start taking crack/whatever, they knew it was wrong and what the consequences were. I guess its too bad that they need to live a terrible life to support it, but it was their choice, and they'll have to deal with the consequences.
Of course, If they were forced into it, or whatever by someone else, then thats different. But what were they doing hanging round such dispised people in the first place. Some people will always choose the wallow in shit over making a stand and walking away for good. Again thats their decision.
Because I live in the city and don't want to have to look at crack whores sucking dick in the ally when I go to my car or take out the trash. I don't want strange men that I don't know wandering around my neighborhood looking for sex.
Is that unreasonable?</strong><hr></blockquote> Well, you seem to have experienced this although it's banned. The ban clearly doesn't work then. Of course sex in the public is an all different matter. I live in a city where prostitution is legal and I've never witnessed something like that although I used to live down town. I just don't think banning things like prostitution solves anything and you just confirmed it to me
[quote]Originally posted by Exercise in Frivolity:
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Selling is legal. F**king is legal. Why isn't selling f**king legal?</strong><hr></blockquote> Well, shooting is legal, cops are legal so shooting cops should be legalized? Just pointing out how stupid this argument is, <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> sorry pal
<strong> Well, shooting is legal, cops are legal so shooting cops should be legalized? Just pointing out how stupid this argument is, <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> sorry pal
[ 05-12-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for not being able to take a ****ing joke you retard.
I think it should be legal and for the following reason.
There is nothing wrong, in concept, with prostitution. If a man wants to pay money to a woman who willingly has sex with him in return then that is an act between two consenting adults.
Of course there is a criminal aspect to it now. Prostitutes are being recruited among homeless children, eastern European women who see no other way out are being exploited and children are being raped. I think, should it be legal all over the world, a great deal of that criminal aspect will dissapear. Except for maybe the last one I mentioned but that´s rape, not prostitution so a different crime all together.
[quote]Originally posted by Exercise in Frivolity:
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What makes it wrong? Your ridiculous religious "morals"? Give me a break.
Let me call upon the wisdom of one of the greatest prophets this world has seen--George Carlin.
Selling is legal. F**king is legal. Why isn't selling f**king legal?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You condemn his intolerance yet call his morals ridiculous...ever thought they may not be so ridiculous to him. Untill he starts blowing up abortion clinics you could display some more tollerance. At least it doesn´t make you a hypocrite.
As for crack whores, that´s drug abuse, not prostitution.Again, different crimes. That one leads to another I won´t deny but it starts with the drug abuse. It would not have been there without it. You´re being overly simplistic. As ever.
I think it should be legal and for the following reason.
There is nothing wrong, in concept, with prostitution. If a man wants to pay money to a woman who willingly has sex with him in return then that is an act between two consenting adults.
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Damn straight. Those who are against prostitution have the right to their opinion. They have the right to preach their opinion to others. They have the right to peacefully demonstrate. They DO NOT have the right to force it on other people. You hit the nail on the head. It's between two consenting adults. There is no crime here.
[quote]As most of you know I don't agree with homosexuality...<hr></blockquote>
While I appreciate your effort to make sure we are all aware of your dislike of homosexuality, I fear that bringing it up in this conversation may be painting with too broad a brush, no? Some things just don't impact society as a whole like others do, and I've a hard time equating the effects of homosexuality, abortion, or smoking with prostitution. I know what you were getting at; I just think that comparison is inaccurate.
Although I can't imagine i'd ever be inclined to take advantage of the services of a prostitute, in theory I don't see why it's a legal issue. Ethical, yes, but not legal. I think a more fair comparison is prostitution to legalizing drugs. Comparing dealers to pimps and the girls to the drugs, if it is legalized privately and the street trade is disbanded, that would IMHO be a positive move for society.
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>
It's all right for a man to search and protect woman with his wealth.
This thing happen to a wife, another wife, a mistress, a girlfriend, and a woman that is quite close.
But does this thing also happen to an unknown woman that is paid to have a sexual intercourse?
Well... I guess that... Like some people here said it, depends on the situation.
I think that the fact that some people don't like the idea of sexual intercourse for money thing, is that in some situations it had a negative effect toward the woman, either physically or spiritually.
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On one hand you're saying you dont give a shit whether it happens... as long as it doesn't happen in your alley?. Surely if you accept one you have to accept the other as a nasty side effect?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're a mental giant. You'll go far.
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You're a mental giant. You'll go far.
<strong>Yes and no. Yes in that it keeps it off the streets and usually keeps it cleaner (Nevada). No in that it's just plain wrong.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What makes it wrong? Your ridiculous religious "morals"? Give me a break.
Let me call upon the wisdom of one of the greatest prophets this world has seen--George Carlin.
Selling is legal. F**king is legal. Why isn't selling f**king legal?
Hypocrites.
legalizing prostitution with strict regulations would probably solve or at least emeliorate some of these issues. It would also help lead the US to a more mature attitude towards sex.
But, it is because of our attitude (both indulgent in the media but then ultra puritan and moralistic (aka: hypocritical)) that we will never legalize it: could you imagine a politician running for office with a legalize prostitution platform...not in the forseeable future.
I have never paid for sex... never even wined and dined just for sex.... but I have (though not often) paid for sex movies (back when there were theatres and no internet) and a few strip clubs... where I lived it was the only place to get beer after 2am . . . . dancing is truly NOT erotic, even when the girls are really cute.
However, high class call girls who want to do it and brothels are okay I guess as long as the women aren't forced into it and have control over their money. The problem is those kind of women are very rare. For every rich man's courtesan there are dozens of "crack whores" who really need help.
Of course, If they were forced into it, or whatever by someone else, then thats different. But what were they doing hanging round such dispised people in the first place. Some people will always choose the wallow in shit over making a stand and walking away for good. Again thats their decision.
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Because I live in the city and don't want to have to look at crack whores sucking dick in the ally when I go to my car or take out the trash. I don't want strange men that I don't know wandering around my neighborhood looking for sex.
Is that unreasonable?</strong><hr></blockquote> Well, you seem to have experienced this although it's banned. The ban clearly doesn't work then. Of course sex in the public is an all different matter. I live in a city where prostitution is legal and I've never witnessed something like that although I used to live down town. I just don't think banning things like prostitution solves anything and you just confirmed it to me
[quote]Originally posted by Exercise in Frivolity:
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Selling is legal. F**king is legal. Why isn't selling f**king legal?</strong><hr></blockquote> Well, shooting is legal, cops are legal so shooting cops should be legalized?
[ 05-12-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</p>
<strong> Well, shooting is legal, cops are legal so shooting cops should be legalized?
[ 05-12-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for not being able to take a ****ing joke you retard.
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Thanks for not being able to take a ****ing joke you retard.</strong><hr></blockquote> No need to thank me, you are very welcome
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</p>
There is nothing wrong, in concept, with prostitution. If a man wants to pay money to a woman who willingly has sex with him in return then that is an act between two consenting adults.
Of course there is a criminal aspect to it now. Prostitutes are being recruited among homeless children, eastern European women who see no other way out are being exploited and children are being raped. I think, should it be legal all over the world, a great deal of that criminal aspect will dissapear. Except for maybe the last one I mentioned but that´s rape, not prostitution so a different crime all together.
<strong>
What makes it wrong? Your ridiculous religious "morals"? Give me a break.
Let me call upon the wisdom of one of the greatest prophets this world has seen--George Carlin.
Selling is legal. F**king is legal. Why isn't selling f**king legal?</strong><hr></blockquote>
You condemn his intolerance yet call his morals ridiculous...ever thought they may not be so ridiculous to him. Untill he starts blowing up abortion clinics you could display some more tollerance. At least it doesn´t make you a hypocrite.
As for crack whores, that´s drug abuse, not prostitution.Again, different crimes. That one leads to another I won´t deny but it starts with the drug abuse. It would not have been there without it. You´re being overly simplistic. As ever.
<strong>That is unless you think that you could retrain and employ a bunch of 50 year old hookers to be, say... IT workers?
MSKR</strong><hr></blockquote>
There are not many 50 year old soccer players or baseball players around mate.
I think it should be legal and for the following reason.
There is nothing wrong, in concept, with prostitution. If a man wants to pay money to a woman who willingly has sex with him in return then that is an act between two consenting adults.
<hr></blockquote>
Damn straight. Those who are against prostitution have the right to their opinion. They have the right to preach their opinion to others. They have the right to peacefully demonstrate. They DO NOT have the right to force it on other people. You hit the nail on the head. It's between two consenting adults. There is no crime here.
You condemn his intolerance yet call his morals ridiculous...<hr></blockquote>
I have no tolerance for intolerance.
While I appreciate your effort to make sure we are all aware of your dislike of homosexuality, I fear that bringing it up in this conversation may be painting with too broad a brush, no? Some things just don't impact society as a whole like others do, and I've a hard time equating the effects of homosexuality, abortion, or smoking with prostitution. I know what you were getting at; I just think that comparison is inaccurate.
Although I can't imagine i'd ever be inclined to take advantage of the services of a prostitute, in theory I don't see why it's a legal issue. Ethical, yes, but not legal. I think a more fair comparison is prostitution to legalizing drugs. Comparing dealers to pimps and the girls to the drugs, if it is legalized privately and the street trade is disbanded, that would IMHO be a positive move for society.
[ 05-13-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>
This thing happen to a wife, another wife, a mistress, a girlfriend, and a woman that is quite close.
But does this thing also happen to an unknown woman that is paid to have a sexual intercourse?
Well... I guess that... Like some people here said it, depends on the situation.
I think that the fact that some people don't like the idea of sexual intercourse for money thing, is that in some situations it had a negative effect toward the woman, either physically or spiritually.