AT&T issued the warning because they were about to be hit with a double whammy at the introduction of the iPhone 3G, not because the phone subsidy was so large.
AT&T was also still paying a share of the monthly subscriber data fee for the original iPhone. So for the year after the intro of iPhone 3G, they would be paying both each quarter. That would lead to higher costs relative to the year before (when they were not paying subsidies at all for iPhone).
AT&T only sold 2-3 millions of original iphones --- it would be a rounding error on the profit margin for a company that size.
You mean to tell me that offshoring jobs (like the manufacturing jobs that help put the iphone together) is ethical for the American worker? hmmmm.
You have an odd sense of ethics. Did Apple "offshore" those jobs and what does that mean to you? Did you want to work building electronics for the wage the Chinese find reasonable? "Would it be "unethical" if only very rich people in the US (and elsewhere) could afford to buy electronics? Would it be more "ethical" to practice protectionism? Do you think more wages are generated by the work done for Apple overseas or by the work done for Apple in the US by US workers? Doesn't it make more sense for highly trained American workers to get paid for engineering, designing, and writing software for Apple products than to do assembly work that we are not very efficient at? Have you ever taken an economics course or read any books?
Whatever you think of China as a country and culture is less relevant than what a company does there. What would be unethical is if Apple hires companies to do work for them in China and then doesn't pay attention to how workers and the environment is treated. This is not the case.
As companies go, Apple is a leader in many areas including ethics.
Stages of denial by iPhone users in response to Android sales:
Sage 1: The numbers are skewed because...
Doesn't represent world wide sales!
2 for 1 sales are cheating!
Stage 2: Acceptance that the numbers are accurate but rationalizes that the iPhone is still superior because...
iPhone is still more profitable!
Android is on multiple cheap phones, iPhone OS is only on the best phone!
Stage 3: Justification as to why...
iPhone 4 was coming out in summer!
AT&T is horrible, dropped calls, poor speeds, they need the iPhone on Verizon!
Stage 4: The user stops caring goes back to enjoying their iPhone...
Hey guys I just downloading an App called "Have2P Restroom Locator" it tells me where the nearest restrooms are to my current GPS location, even gives me cleanliness reviews of each toilet. I don't know how I lived without it.
Stages of denial by iPhone users in response to Android sales:
Sage 1: The numbers are skewed because...
Doesn't represent world wide sales!
2 for 1 sales are cheating!
Stage 2: Acceptance that the numbers are accurate but rationalizes that the iPhone is still superior because...
iPhone is still more profitable!
Android is on multiple cheap phones, iPhone OS is only on the best phone!
Stage 3: Justification as to why...
iPhone 4 was coming out in summer!
AT&T is horrible, dropped calls, poor speeds, they need the iPhone on Verizon!
Stage 4: The user stops caring goes back to enjoying their iPhone...
Hey guys I just downloading an App called "Have2P Restroom Locator" it tells me where the nearest restrooms are to my current GPS location, even gives me cleanliness reviews of each toilet. I don't know how I lived without it.
22 posts and you get that insight, well some of us should be just brilliant
i don't care about the android "universe' apple has the world i want to be in
i like blue you like red
well good for you
and when google can do retail like apple, well.....we can then talk
22 posts and you get that insight, well some of us should be just brilliant
i don't care about the android "universe' apple has the world i want to be in
i like blue you like red
well good for you
and when google can do retail like apple, well.....we can then talk
To add as well, when Goggle can do tech and customer support in a level that reaches Microsoft or Apple , I would be glad to listen. I have the utmost respect for the Android platform, but I don't trust Google or the phone manufacturers and phone companies to support the customer when Android problems starts rushing in.
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AT&T issued the warning because they were about to be hit with a double whammy at the introduction of the iPhone 3G, not because the phone subsidy was so large.
AT&T was also still paying a share of the monthly subscriber data fee for the original iPhone. So for the year after the intro of iPhone 3G, they would be paying both each quarter. That would lead to higher costs relative to the year before (when they were not paying subsidies at all for iPhone).
AT&T only sold 2-3 millions of original iphones --- it would be a rounding error on the profit margin for a company that size.
You mean to tell me that offshoring jobs (like the manufacturing jobs that help put the iphone together) is ethical for the American worker? hmmmm.
You have an odd sense of ethics. Did Apple "offshore" those jobs and what does that mean to you? Did you want to work building electronics for the wage the Chinese find reasonable? "Would it be "unethical" if only very rich people in the US (and elsewhere) could afford to buy electronics? Would it be more "ethical" to practice protectionism? Do you think more wages are generated by the work done for Apple overseas or by the work done for Apple in the US by US workers? Doesn't it make more sense for highly trained American workers to get paid for engineering, designing, and writing software for Apple products than to do assembly work that we are not very efficient at? Have you ever taken an economics course or read any books?
Whatever you think of China as a country and culture is less relevant than what a company does there. What would be unethical is if Apple hires companies to do work for them in China and then doesn't pay attention to how workers and the environment is treated. This is not the case.
As companies go, Apple is a leader in many areas including ethics.
Sage 1: The numbers are skewed because...
Doesn't represent world wide sales!
2 for 1 sales are cheating!
Stage 2: Acceptance that the numbers are accurate but rationalizes that the iPhone is still superior because...
iPhone is still more profitable!
Android is on multiple cheap phones, iPhone OS is only on the best phone!
Stage 3: Justification as to why...
iPhone 4 was coming out in summer!
AT&T is horrible, dropped calls, poor speeds, they need the iPhone on Verizon!
Stage 4: The user stops caring goes back to enjoying their iPhone...
Hey guys I just downloading an App called "Have2P Restroom Locator" it tells me where the nearest restrooms are to my current GPS location, even gives me cleanliness reviews of each toilet. I don't know how I lived without it.
Stages of denial by iPhone users in response to Android sales:
Sage 1: The numbers are skewed because...
Doesn't represent world wide sales!
2 for 1 sales are cheating!
Stage 2: Acceptance that the numbers are accurate but rationalizes that the iPhone is still superior because...
iPhone is still more profitable!
Android is on multiple cheap phones, iPhone OS is only on the best phone!
Stage 3: Justification as to why...
iPhone 4 was coming out in summer!
AT&T is horrible, dropped calls, poor speeds, they need the iPhone on Verizon!
Stage 4: The user stops caring goes back to enjoying their iPhone...
Hey guys I just downloading an App called "Have2P Restroom Locator" it tells me where the nearest restrooms are to my current GPS location, even gives me cleanliness reviews of each toilet. I don't know how I lived without it.
22 posts and you get that insight, well some of us should be just brilliant
i don't care about the android "universe' apple has the world i want to be in
i like blue you like red
well good for you
and when google can do retail like apple, well.....we can then talk
22 posts and you get that insight, well some of us should be just brilliant
i don't care about the android "universe' apple has the world i want to be in
i like blue you like red
well good for you
and when google can do retail like apple, well.....we can then talk
To add as well, when Goggle can do tech and customer support in a level that reaches Microsoft or Apple , I would be glad to listen. I have the utmost respect for the Android platform, but I don't trust Google or the phone manufacturers and phone companies to support the customer when Android problems starts rushing in.