Typical of both Nokia and Yahoo, two dying giants. You guys may think you've reached some transcendental corporate synergy, but this isn't a case of 1+1=3, it's more like 0+0 still = 0.
Nokia still does not get software, and they still do not get services.
I would agree with you totally about Nokia but with Yahoo, you have to look at the parts, not the whole. Yahoo mail is usually the 1st or 2nd highest trafficked web based email site and their IM use is around the same also, at least in the U.S. and many places around the world.
Yahoo becoming the exclusive provider of Mail and Chat on the OVI platform?
I might be reading this wrong, but it seems to imply that rival Email and IM services will not be offered on the OVI platform.
This means Nokia buyers will not get access to Gmail...
..or AIM ... or MSN or Skype..
How about Facebook Messenger?
They say Apple is trying to lock-down users. But this takes the biscuit. This takes a big truckload of biscuits.
C.
Maybe they continue to do this the same way they have always done it, by installing an app to gain this functionality? They haven't said anything about banning third party apps.
Yes, Nokia has not doing well in US, but quite good all around the planet. To answer a appleinsider user "Nokia supports flash, for quite some time!" Symbian is a great OS, and I won't change it for an iPhone, I have such good features like, phone cell location to display notes, easy share to facebook, twitter, etc, with just one button, FREE World maps, with voice guidance and traffic info, voice recognition, and I can install what ever I want. Nokia it is Not a dying company, to say least, Nokia is going to have a huge word to say in the US market! About Yahoo, I am not a fan either, but they are quite successful in China, where population is more than 1 000 000 000, and they produce almost everything for everyone, so, saying these two companies aren's important is a very ignorant remark!
In hopes of increasing its smartphone presence in the U.S., Nokia on Monday announced a new "strategic alliance" with Yahoo, with the search company powering e-mail and instant messaging services for the Ovi platform.
Brilliant - lets team up with the weakest player in their space so we can take on the best and strongest in a market where we have virtually no penetration. Clowns all!
Maybe they continue to do this the same way they have always done it, by installing an app to gain this functionality? They haven't said anything about banning third party apps.
They said that Yahoo's IM and mail would be exclusive on the OVI platform.
That presumably means banning rival products from the Ovi store.
I suspect customers will be able to get around this. But this move does not seem compatible with giving more choice.
They said that Yahoo's IM and mail would be exclusive on the OVI platform.
That presumably means banning rival products from the Ovi store.
C.
No, what they said in the article was
Quote:
The deal will make Nokia the exclusive global provider of Yahoo maps and navigations services, while Yahoo will become the exclusive provider for Mail and Chat services in Nokia's Ovi platform.
And what was listed in the Nokia press release was
- Nokia will be the exclusive, global provider of Yahoo!'s maps and navigation services, integrating Ovi Maps across Yahoo! properties, branded as "powered by Ovi."
- Yahoo! will become the exclusive, global provider of Nokia's Ovi Mail and Ovi Chat services branded as "Ovi Mail / Ovi Chat powered by Yahoo!"
Both of which read very easily, and I can't see how you could get your statement from these two quotes. And if you are still having trouble working out, Yahoo will be the branded solutions, others won't be branded OVI.
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Originally Posted by Carniphage
I suspect customers will be able to get around this. But this move does not seem compatible with giving more choice.
Well even though your original statement was very wrong, I will answer this anyway, since you aren't forced to get applications from the Ovi Store, then there is no issue obtaining other solutions is there
Yes, Nokia has not doing well in US, but quite good all around the planet. To answer a appleinsider user "Nokia supports flash, for quite some time!" Symbian is a great OS, and I won't change it for an iPhone, I have such good features like, phone cell location to display notes, easy share to facebook, twitter, etc, with just one button, FREE World maps, with voice guidance and traffic info, voice recognition, and I can install what ever I want. Nokia it is Not a dying company, to say least, Nokia is going to have a huge word to say in the US market! About Yahoo, I am not a fan either, but they are quite successful in China, where population is more than 1 000 000 000, and they produce almost everything for everyone, so, saying these two companies aren's important is a very ignorant remark!
Yep. Nokia is huge. And they make excellent products.
Regardless of whether they can take on Apple or not, this deal makes good sense for Nokia and Yahoo. Nokia is terribly behind in the software game. And without hardware partners (like Google with Android), Yahoo is getting pushed out of the mobile space. It makes sense for them to hook-up.
Now whether this partnership can successfully take on the iPhone/Apple ecosystem or the Android platform is another matter altogether. Though, I do think they'll do alright outside the USA.
This partnership is simply a marketing/branding move. Yahoo was already using maps from Navteq (Nokia unit), and Nokia wants to get its Ovi branding on as many properties as possible. Nokia would like to offer its cellphone owners more options for mail and instant messaging, and Yahoo wants to have its mail and instant messaging be the default choice on as many hardware platforms as possible. Yahoo mail is recognized by most to be at or near the top, and Nokia would like its Ovi branded mail to have that reputation.
So it's a win-win for everyone involved but I don't think Yahoo or Nokia expect this to increase their market share by much.
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That's the answer, alright. Except we've seen that it isn't so easy to pull off for some reason.
It all comes down to attitude and the decision to take risks. Nokia seems to have issues in both departments.
Typical of both Nokia and Yahoo, two dying giants. You guys may think you've reached some transcendental corporate synergy, but this isn't a case of 1+1=3, it's more like 0+0 still = 0.
Nokia still does not get software, and they still do not get services.
I would agree with you totally about Nokia but with Yahoo, you have to look at the parts, not the whole. Yahoo mail is usually the 1st or 2nd highest trafficked web based email site and their IM use is around the same also, at least in the U.S. and many places around the world.
http://www.email-marketing-reports.c...statistics.htm
Although I believe Gmail has double the email use though...
Yahoo becoming the exclusive provider of Mail and Chat on the OVI platform?
I might be reading this wrong, but it seems to imply that rival Email and IM services will not be offered on the OVI platform.
This means Nokia buyers will not get access to Gmail...
..or AIM ... or MSN or Skype..
How about Facebook Messenger?
They say Apple is trying to lock-down users. But this takes the biscuit. This takes a big truckload of biscuits.
C.
Maybe they continue to do this the same way they have always done it, by installing an app to gain this functionality? They haven't said anything about banning third party apps.
In hopes of increasing its smartphone presence in the U.S., Nokia on Monday announced a new "strategic alliance" with Yahoo, with the search company powering e-mail and instant messaging services for the Ovi platform.
Two wrongs don't make a right!!
Maybe they continue to do this the same way they have always done it, by installing an app to gain this functionality? They haven't said anything about banning third party apps.
They said that Yahoo's IM and mail would be exclusive on the OVI platform.
That presumably means banning rival products from the Ovi store.
I suspect customers will be able to get around this. But this move does not seem compatible with giving more choice.
C.
They said that Yahoo's IM and mail would be exclusive on the OVI platform.
That presumably means banning rival products from the Ovi store.
C.
No, what they said in the article was
The deal will make Nokia the exclusive global provider of Yahoo maps and navigations services, while Yahoo will become the exclusive provider for Mail and Chat services in Nokia's Ovi platform.
And what was listed in the Nokia press release was
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1418261
As part of the alliance:
- Nokia will be the exclusive, global provider of Yahoo!'s maps and navigation services, integrating Ovi Maps across Yahoo! properties, branded as "powered by Ovi."
- Yahoo! will become the exclusive, global provider of Nokia's Ovi Mail and Ovi Chat services branded as "Ovi Mail / Ovi Chat powered by Yahoo!"
Both of which read very easily, and I can't see how you could get your statement from these two quotes. And if you are still having trouble working out, Yahoo will be the branded solutions, others won't be branded OVI.
I suspect customers will be able to get around this. But this move does not seem compatible with giving more choice.
Well even though your original statement was very wrong, I will answer this anyway, since you aren't forced to get applications from the Ovi Store, then there is no issue obtaining other solutions is there
...oh, hang on.
Maybe Nokia should partner with Excite next.
Ovi mail is garbage it just won't work on my iPhone, it's as if Nokia is blocking it or something.
No, what they said in the article was
You must be right.
To exclude Gmail and IM services from the OVI store would be insane. (even for Nokia)
C.
How good can it be for a smartphone platform to tie itself exclusively to one EMAIL provider?? That's ridiculous.....
How good can it be for a smartphone platform to tie itself exclusively to one browser? THAT'S ridiculous!
Two increasingly irrelevant companies
Nokia sells more cellphoones than anybody.
Yes, Nokia has not doing well in US, but quite good all around the planet. To answer a appleinsider user "Nokia supports flash, for quite some time!" Symbian is a great OS, and I won't change it for an iPhone, I have such good features like, phone cell location to display notes, easy share to facebook, twitter, etc, with just one button, FREE World maps, with voice guidance and traffic info, voice recognition, and I can install what ever I want. Nokia it is Not a dying company, to say least, Nokia is going to have a huge word to say in the US market! About Yahoo, I am not a fan either, but they are quite successful in China, where population is more than 1 000 000 000, and they produce almost everything for everyone, so, saying these two companies aren's important is a very ignorant remark!
Yep. Nokia is huge. And they make excellent products.
Now whether this partnership can successfully take on the iPhone/Apple ecosystem or the Android platform is another matter altogether. Though, I do think they'll do alright outside the USA.
So it's a win-win for everyone involved but I don't think Yahoo or Nokia expect this to increase their market share by much.