An indication of new hardware?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
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  • Reply 1 of 21
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    It doesn't mean anything related to hardware.
  • Reply 2 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>It doesn't mean anything related to hardware.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    do you think new hardware writes it's own drivers? No, as new hardware is released, especially anything directly on the MB, updates need to be made to the OS.



    Or does your hardware live on Triscuits and Cheddar?
  • Reply 3 of 21
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by concentricity:

    <strong>



    Or does your hardware live on Triscuits and Cheddar?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah, how'd you know?



    All I was saying is that new OS's don't require a different OS version. The new iMacs are running 10.1.2, probably a different version then the rest of us, but regardless it's 10.1.2.
  • Reply 4 of 21
    The 14 inch iBook boots up with 10.1.2 5R43e or somthin like that. I can't remember.

    First time I've seen lower case letters in the build numbers though... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 5 of 21
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Tarbash:

    <strong>The 14 inch iBook boots up with 10.1.2 5R43e or somthin like that. I can't remember.

    First time I've seen lower case letters in the build numbers though... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hmm... I didn't notice that when I looked on the 14" iBook. Maybe I didn't look close enough.
  • Reply 6 of 21
    Weird. Yeah, I had to set one up and just looked and thats what it said. I'm sure they'd all have the same shipping OS on them.
  • Reply 7 of 21
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Tarbash:

    <strong>Weird. Yeah, I had to set one up and just looked and thats what it said. I'm sure they'd all have the same shipping OS on them.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah, I'll take a better look next time.
  • Reply 8 of 21
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    It could be a sign of new hardware, and it could also be the update that fixes a bunch of low-level code so that backup utilities and pro audio programs can run well (for example).



    It could also introduce support for new hardware, but it would be hard to say without a more detailed look at the release.
  • Reply 9 of 21
    r-ager-age Posts: 21member
    QuickSilvers came with new classic OS (9.2)
  • Reply 10 of 21
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by R-age:

    <strong>QuickSilvers came with new classic OS (9.2)</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah. Besides then, has it happened in the past?
  • Reply 11 of 21
    I think it's the release where they finally pull all of the debug code out!!! It'll be phat fast!
  • Reply 12 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by wormboy:

    <strong>I think it's the release where they finally pull all of the debug code out!!! It'll be phat fast!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Okay, time for my dumb hat. Debug code? I thought they pulled that for the first release! :eek: If it's really still in there, then, yeah, 10.x will rock!



    tsukurite
  • Reply 13 of 21
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,393member
    [quote]Originally posted by wormboy:

    <strong>I think it's the release where they finally pull all of the debug code out!!! It'll be phat fast!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I thought the debug code was removed from OS X, version 10.1. Any programmers out there that can set the record straight?



    - Mark
  • Reply 14 of 21
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    [quote]Originally posted by sc_markt:

    <strong>



    I thought the debug code was removed from OS X, version 10.1. Any programmers out there that can set the record straight?



    - Mark</strong><hr></blockquote>



    From what I know "debug code" can be in- or excluded with simple precompiler "if" statements. I doubt engineers working on a OS have "built-in" debug code. _If_ there was some it was in the betas and surely not the end product.



    It is however possible that early versions of the system use "bullet-proof" code which simply works and later versions get optimized step by step to gain speed.
  • Reply 15 of 21
    crayzcrayz Posts: 73member
    It was a joke. At least I got it wormboy
  • Reply 16 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by crayz:

    <strong>It was a joke. At least I got it wormboy </strong><hr></blockquote>



    :o whoops! sorry! must be my day to be slow.



    tsukurite
  • Reply 17 of 21
    I agree that sometimes a slight update in the software is required for new hardware but i hardly would count 10.1.3 as a contributing factor that new hardware is on the way. There are still bugs to squash and features to add, therefor new hardware or not, we'll see software updates.
  • Reply 18 of 21
    [quote]Originally posted by sc_markt:

    <strong>



    I thought the debug code was removed from OS X, version 10.1. Any programmers out there that can set the record straight?



    - Mark</strong><hr></blockquote>



    There never were any significant amount to be removed.
  • Reply 19 of 21
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,393member
    So, not much debug code to remove in OS X. I was hoping there was so that there was room for future speed increases. Maybe the problem is there are too many layers in OS X. According to the people who wrote VPC 5.0, one of the reasons its slower in OS X is due to the layers. If true, I don't see much room for speed increases until faster hardware is released.



    Too bad they don't have a version of VPC that runs in Darwin. I bet it'd be a heck of a lot faster.





    Thanks to all who answered my debug code question.



    - Mark
  • Reply 20 of 21
    crayzcrayz Posts: 73member
    I think Quartz is the real reason OS X is so slow. Run IE in Classic vs. IE in OS X. Why is the Classic one so much faster at scrolling and opening new windows and everything? The only real difference between the two apps is Quartz.



    Quartz needs to be HW accelerated. Period.
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