I for one don't want to see the other person I'm talkin to!
Sorry Apple!
Don't think of it for the reasons they show (father on the road viewing wife and hump dumpling). Think of it as a great tool to show someone something you are describing, or to help out a parent do something.
Imagine guiding a parent through say hooking up their TV, you could be shown exactly what connections were on the back of it, and you could say plug it in "there".
It's a technical sharing tool, not a videoconferencing tool.
I would be happy to face chat with someone that could fix my ipad wifi problems.
there is no camera on the iPad - and FaceTime depends on WiFi working first - so I am thinking no - FaceTime is not going to help an iPad WiFi problem.
However, you home data usage via Wi-Fi is charged against your internet package. Most high speed internet services have limited data/month.
For example, my high speed internet express package includes 60GB of data/month. Our household usage has averaged over 1GB per day using my iPhone and 3 Macs. But now that my wife has gotten her iPad, usage is nearing the 1.5GB/day, although my 3g uses another 200MB/month on my iPhone data plan.
I recently installed SurplusMeter to monitor my own personal usage for the business side and tested iChat. It consumes about 5MB/min (down and up). Note that it is using the iSight camera which is VGA. One would expect a higher usage if you used the 5 megapixel iPhone 4 over the front facing camera.
It would be interesting to see what others are consuming. I know that with the iPad coming into the home, our internet usage has upped significantly. But hoping to get a couple more iPads and iPhones by Christmas, we may have to upgrade our internet package as well.
I have heard rumors of Time Warner implementing data caps - but I think they would first have to give us some reporting on usage. I have no idea what my usage is but since I got NetFlix I am sure it has gone way up. will have to load that meter tool and see what happens - though I have so many computers I may not capture all the traffic - would have to collect data at my router to get that. (my work machine also has Mozy Pro online backup) - might not be too bad if they had rollover capacity - like roll over minutes with AT&T - if they had roll over capacity - that would be good for me - since I use more when traveling (at least via 3G anyway - maybe less direct wired and wireless).
Yo! I'm thinking about starting a 1-900-FaceTime service... If you know any unemployed hot chicks send them over. If you're a venture capitalist, give me a holler! I need money to start it.
I just got of the video with them. Pretty sweet actually. Of course it helps that my Facetime instructor was Beautiful! I fell in love with her a little bit...
Wait wut?
I mean, she did an outstanding job! And it was like her eyes were calling to me with a force of which Vader would be proud!
Doh...I mean..
She was pretty and professional. She rocked my iPhone!
Damn it to hell!
Why does everything I write sound so perverted? I'm just sayin', I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating Animal Crackers!
Might be harder for folks to pretend to be listening.
And why has no one suggested how hazardous this is going to be for folks making phone calls while driving? or is the WiFi only leading people to think that it won't be used while driving? don't be too sure - I have had my notebook with 3G card setup to share internet to WiFi while driving - so technically it is possible.
I have heard rumors of Time Warner implementing data caps - but I think they would first have to give us some reporting on usage. I have no idea what my usage is but since I got NetFlix I am sure it has gone way up. will have to load that meter tool and see what happens - though I have so many computers I may not capture all the traffic - would have to collect data at my router to get that. (my work machine also has Mozy Pro online backup) - might not be too bad if they had rollover capacity - like roll over minutes with AT&T - if they had roll over capacity - that would be good for me - since I use more when traveling (at least via 3G anyway - maybe less direct wired and wireless).
I am on Rogers which has a portal to view our daily/monthly data usage for the household. I was under the impression that most of the ISPs offered the same service. And had maximum data volumes depending on which 'speed' package you bought.
I got SurplusMeter a couple of weeks ago which is a standalone utility. Am in the process of putting it on all the Macs to collect and monitor individual usages.
I know one thing. The faster the service, the more data I am consuming. And that is being compounded by each iteration of more powerful, faster Macs, iPhones and soon to be iPads that come along.
I'm not holding my breath on that one - and I assume you are talking about a chat roulette situation - and not making a statement about folks who answer the phones for apple - then again if apple had hot chicks in skimpy lingerie... more likely you accidentally get connected to one of those Ninjas we keep hearing about.
interesting that no other companies are looking into this - although in the case of a service such as Skype - that handles both audio and video - so how to bridge from a split cellular audio / WiFi video to a protocol that handles both could be an interesting challenge.
I wonder if you will be able to record a video call and or leave a video message (although the split audio/video thing comes to mind again).
Might make some interesting additions to the various late night phone chat services that are advertised on TV.
I would bet that more likely than a lucky chat roulette scenario - will will probably see some poor shmuck get a nude video conference from a drunken buddy at some inopportune time. or a message from Tiger Woods asking his girlfriend to Please, Please, wear a bag over your head before you answer so Elin doesn't see who you are.
If Skype has any sense about them they will work feverishly to integrate facetime into their apps and service. If this takes off with other hardware manufacturers it will quickly outpace Skype as the best way to video chat with friends and family. If they can update their app to support it they will keep their loyal customers and gain a few that don't want to buy a new phone but like the idea of video chatting with family who have the hardware.
If Skype has any sense about them they will work feverishly to integrate facetime into their apps and service. If this takes off with other hardware manufacturers it will quickly outpace Skype as the best way to video chat with friends and family. If they can update their app to support it they will keep their loyal customers and gain a few that don't want to buy a new phone but like the idea of video chatting with family who have the hardware.
Which is why I think it was so brilliant for Apple to open-source the entire technology stack. There will probably be multiple implementations within weeks. But only Apple's integrates with the actual voice call so you can turn a regular phonecall into a FaceTime session-- which is the most brilliant part about the whole feature, IMHO.
And it really works pretty seamlessly. It was way easier than getting iChat to consistently work, which leads me to believe we'll get that updated with FaceTime in 10.7.
With the iPad and FaceTime and all, Apple is really going ST:TNG lately.
This was great, very impressive. They showed me how to move the video window around, and how to lock the phone into an orientation (at the left in the multi-tasking window).
Which is why I think it was so brilliant for Apple to open-source the entire technology stack. There will probably be multiple implementations within weeks. But only Apple's integrates with the actual voice call so you can turn a regular phonecall into a FaceTime session-- which is the most brilliant part about the whole feature, IMHO.
And it really works pretty seamlessly. It was way easier than getting iChat to consistently work, which leads me to believe we'll get that updated with FaceTime in 10.7.
With the iPad and FaceTime and all, Apple is really going ST:TNG lately.
Speaking of Skype, I think Apple is doing exactly what Skype did to market this service. Before Skype there were IM clients that allowed for voice calls (and later, video calls). It was a novelty upon the IM service. Skype focused on VoIP as the primary service even though, at least me personally, have used it more for text-based communication more than anything else despite having a Skype In phone number for several years.
What I think Apple is doing with FaceTime is a trojan horse to pull all power from the carriers thus making them basic service providers, not cellphone companies who offer data. If they can market FaceTime correctly and get others to join the fray with this open standard they can later allow devices running the FaceTime protocol suite to connect to each other over an IP network that doesn't have to be based on video, as a subset of these protocols can be used for only voice (eg: SIP), text, or basic data files.
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i think facetime is ridicules waste of time.
I for one don't want to see the other person I'm talkin to!
Sorry Apple!
Don't think of it for the reasons they show (father on the road viewing wife and hump dumpling). Think of it as a great tool to show someone something you are describing, or to help out a parent do something.
Imagine guiding a parent through say hooking up their TV, you could be shown exactly what connections were on the back of it, and you could say plug it in "there".
It's a technical sharing tool, not a videoconferencing tool.
imagine answering your phone for an unknown caller, load up facetime, and WOAH! BALLS!
I would be happy to face chat with someone that could fix my ipad wifi problems.
there is no camera on the iPad - and FaceTime depends on WiFi working first - so I am thinking no - FaceTime is not going to help an iPad WiFi problem.
However, you home data usage via Wi-Fi is charged against your internet package. Most high speed internet services have limited data/month.
For example, my high speed internet express package includes 60GB of data/month. Our household usage has averaged over 1GB per day using my iPhone and 3 Macs. But now that my wife has gotten her iPad, usage is nearing the 1.5GB/day, although my 3g uses another 200MB/month on my iPhone data plan.
I recently installed SurplusMeter to monitor my own personal usage for the business side and tested iChat. It consumes about 5MB/min (down and up). Note that it is using the iSight camera which is VGA. One would expect a higher usage if you used the 5 megapixel iPhone 4 over the front facing camera.
It would be interesting to see what others are consuming. I know that with the iPad coming into the home, our internet usage has upped significantly. But hoping to get a couple more iPads and iPhones by Christmas, we may have to upgrade our internet package as well.
I have heard rumors of Time Warner implementing data caps - but I think they would first have to give us some reporting on usage. I have no idea what my usage is but since I got NetFlix I am sure it has gone way up. will have to load that meter tool and see what happens - though I have so many computers I may not capture all the traffic - would have to collect data at my router to get that. (my work machine also has Mozy Pro online backup) - might not be too bad if they had rollover capacity - like roll over minutes with AT&T - if they had roll over capacity - that would be good for me - since I use more when traveling (at least via 3G anyway - maybe less direct wired and wireless).
Caller I.D.
WiFi
Push
Face Time
Wait wut?
I mean, she did an outstanding job! And it was like her eyes were calling to me with a force of which Vader would be proud!
Doh...I mean..
She was pretty and professional. She rocked my iPhone!
Damn it to hell!
Why does everything I write sound so perverted? I'm just sayin', I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating Animal Crackers!
Oh I give up.
And why has no one suggested how hazardous this is going to be for folks making phone calls while driving? or is the WiFi only leading people to think that it won't be used while driving? don't be too sure - I have had my notebook with 3G card setup to share internet to WiFi while driving - so technically it is possible.
I have heard rumors of Time Warner implementing data caps - but I think they would first have to give us some reporting on usage. I have no idea what my usage is but since I got NetFlix I am sure it has gone way up. will have to load that meter tool and see what happens - though I have so many computers I may not capture all the traffic - would have to collect data at my router to get that. (my work machine also has Mozy Pro online backup) - might not be too bad if they had rollover capacity - like roll over minutes with AT&T - if they had roll over capacity - that would be good for me - since I use more when traveling (at least via 3G anyway - maybe less direct wired and wireless).
I am on Rogers which has a portal to view our daily/monthly data usage for the household. I was under the impression that most of the ISPs offered the same service. And had maximum data volumes depending on which 'speed' package you bought.
I got SurplusMeter a couple of weeks ago which is a standalone utility. Am in the process of putting it on all the Macs to collect and monitor individual usages.
I know one thing. The faster the service, the more data I am consuming. And that is being compounded by each iteration of more powerful, faster Macs, iPhones and soon to be iPads that come along.
Most high speed internet services have limited data/month.l.
This is surprising to me. Can you point to some further information that "Most" (as in the most widely subscribed) service providers have data limits?
Thanks.
How did they know to use FaceTime as a name so it would match up perfectly with the telephone digits? That's just amazing!
Ummmm......
'FaceTime has 8 characters. The phone number has 7 characters after the area code. Doesn't sound like a perfect match to me.....
Ummmm......
'FaceTime has 8 characters. The phone number has 7 characters after the area code. Doesn't sound like a perfect match to me.....
1-888-FACETIM just doesn't sound quite right.
Maybe the 800 - 888 numbering system needs to be updated.
1-88-FACETIME would be 1-88-3233-8463
allowing 881, 882, 883, 884, etc would open more numbers - right - those aren't already being sued or reserved are they?
This is surprising to me. Can you point to some further information that "Most" (as in the most widely subscribed) service providers have data limits?
Thanks.
You'll be waiting for a while. This guy put me on his ignore list after I called him out for running his mouth and talking some bs like this
I'm not holding my breath on that one - and I assume you are talking about a chat roulette situation - and not making a statement about folks who answer the phones for apple - then again if apple had hot chicks in skimpy lingerie... more likely you accidentally get connected to one of those Ninjas we keep hearing about.
interesting that no other companies are looking into this - although in the case of a service such as Skype - that handles both audio and video - so how to bridge from a split cellular audio / WiFi video to a protocol that handles both could be an interesting challenge.
I wonder if you will be able to record a video call and or leave a video message (although the split audio/video thing comes to mind again).
Might make some interesting additions to the various late night phone chat services that are advertised on TV.
I would bet that more likely than a lucky chat roulette scenario - will will probably see some poor shmuck get a nude video conference from a drunken buddy at some inopportune time. or a message from Tiger Woods asking his girlfriend to Please, Please, wear a bag over your head before you answer so Elin doesn't see who you are.
If Skype has any sense about them they will work feverishly to integrate facetime into their apps and service. If this takes off with other hardware manufacturers it will quickly outpace Skype as the best way to video chat with friends and family. If they can update their app to support it they will keep their loyal customers and gain a few that don't want to buy a new phone but like the idea of video chatting with family who have the hardware.
If Skype has any sense about them they will work feverishly to integrate facetime into their apps and service. If this takes off with other hardware manufacturers it will quickly outpace Skype as the best way to video chat with friends and family. If they can update their app to support it they will keep their loyal customers and gain a few that don't want to buy a new phone but like the idea of video chatting with family who have the hardware.
Which is why I think it was so brilliant for Apple to open-source the entire technology stack. There will probably be multiple implementations within weeks. But only Apple's integrates with the actual voice call so you can turn a regular phonecall into a FaceTime session-- which is the most brilliant part about the whole feature, IMHO.
And it really works pretty seamlessly. It was way easier than getting iChat to consistently work, which leads me to believe we'll get that updated with FaceTime in 10.7.
With the iPad and FaceTime and all, Apple is really going ST:TNG lately.
Well done!
Which is why I think it was so brilliant for Apple to open-source the entire technology stack. There will probably be multiple implementations within weeks. But only Apple's integrates with the actual voice call so you can turn a regular phonecall into a FaceTime session-- which is the most brilliant part about the whole feature, IMHO.
And it really works pretty seamlessly. It was way easier than getting iChat to consistently work, which leads me to believe we'll get that updated with FaceTime in 10.7.
With the iPad and FaceTime and all, Apple is really going ST:TNG lately.
Speaking of Skype, I think Apple is doing exactly what Skype did to market this service. Before Skype there were IM clients that allowed for voice calls (and later, video calls). It was a novelty upon the IM service. Skype focused on VoIP as the primary service even though, at least me personally, have used it more for text-based communication more than anything else despite having a Skype In phone number for several years.
What I think Apple is doing with FaceTime is a trojan horse to pull all power from the carriers thus making them basic service providers, not cellphone companies who offer data. If they can market FaceTime correctly and get others to join the fray with this open standard they can later allow devices running the FaceTime protocol suite to connect to each other over an IP network that doesn't have to be based on video, as a subset of these protocols can be used for only voice (eg: SIP), text, or basic data files.