Seems like a waste of human effort to me... I see the browser wars as a race to duplicate what OS frameworks have had for years.
Imagine if all those smart Webkit/Mozilla people developers had instead worked on real end user apps all these years, instead of rebuilding the OS inside an app. Such a waste...
I know this is a bit off-topic, but if FireFox would be able to work with MobileMe sync then I'd love to use FireFox again on my Macs.
Safari's bookmark system sucks! Can't add folders, unless you save a bunch of tabs at once, so it makes one huge list. That is the one thing that really turns me down on Safari.
well, as long as Chrome is the only one translating the whole webpage from one language to another one, I'll stick with it for now, even if I like FF better...
It is not possible, as far as I know, to add a folder structure to my bookmarks in the way I can in IE of FF (don't know about Chrome, rarely used it).
It is not possible, as far as I know, to add a folder structure to my bookmarks in the way I can in IE of FF (don't know about Chrome, rarely used it).
sure it's possible, but it's not as straight forward as FF or IE is. It's straight forward a-la OSX style.
I gave FF3.6 a boot with Chrome 5. It is so much faster, has awesome extensions and themes and TABS ON TOP.
That said I am testing nightly betas and I am impressed. FF4 is way faster at booting, Windows UI is amazing (they are still working on mac version), it looks like they will have TABS ON TOP OPTION. And of course page load speeds are hella faster, as fast as chrome and much more fluid. Can't wait for the final, which might woo me back to using FF as default.
PS Used to run safari as secondary, but after google did extensions, themes and tabs on top I dropped it in favor of chrome (which then became primary is FF continued to slow down). Reader button is cool though.
I'm glad to see Firefox planning to start handling passwords properly.
Having to use 1password as a separate app (which probably just piggybacks off keychain) is a waste of money. It's also unreliable in that it doesn't lock itself properly and seems like it missed the detailed user testing stage.
If Firefox and their iphone app offer the capability of storing a little extra information as well not just the form data it could be very promising.
Ya and flash works great on Nvidia's website. I thought his point was quite good, Jobs always complains about flash and says html5 is the future, if that is so then why does apple still require quick time plugin's to play videos on their website?
yep firefox is slow, crashes alot, and i'm ambivalent towards it...
...but one thing that keeps me coming back time and time again despite having safari and chrome in the dock next to it is....the awesome bar......it's freakin awesome
1) w3schools is like talking AppleInsider or MacRumour browser stats, they aren?t even close to accurate. How about ArsTechnica which puts IE in the lead.
2) Why highlight Safari and not Chrome? Are you make a pejorative comment about Safari but Chrome gets a pass? Silly!
3) The entire point of the browser wars fighting against IE and Mozilla?s uphill battle with Firefox was to get open standards in place. That has been accomplished, with even MS following suit with IE9 (which is moving faster than Firefox right now, and has a real change of overtaking it in standards compliance).
4) Everything else should just be put under the WebKit, because that is all that matters. No one should care if Safari or Chrome has the most marketshare, the point is that they all run the same things. Now that so many browsers are so compliant, the only real choice are the options each app has to fit the user?s needs.
1) w3schools is like talking AppleInsider or MacRumour browser stats, they aren?t even close to accurate. How about ArsTechnica which puts IE in the lead.
No matter how you slice it, Apple's cross-platform Safari is unloved by most, with FF eclipsing it in market share many times over in every survey you can find.
No matter how you slice it, Apple's cross-platform Safari is unloved by most, with FF eclipsing it in market share many times over in every survey you can find.
:sigh: I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you just want to demonize anything Apple does. Did you really think 100% of all Mac users would use Safari or that Safari for Windows would be huge hit when it?s engine was used for switch in iTunes? How about WebKit?s dominance on mobiles and growing use on desktops and consoles? Yes, it?s all shit! Back to the Ignore List again, your trial is over.
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I'm having major GUI problems with b1.
Ditto - tabs are squished over one side and I have what looks like a doubled duplicate nav-bar on the other..
more gecko, less webkit, please.
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Zzzz . . . they still make Firefox?
YAWN...Boring
Imagine if all those smart Webkit/Mozilla people developers had instead worked on real end user apps all these years, instead of rebuilding the OS inside an app. Such a waste...
Safari's bookmark system sucks! Can't add folders, unless you save a bunch of tabs at once, so it makes one huge list. That is the one thing that really turns me down on Safari.
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Safari's bookmark system sucks! Can't add folders, ....
Come again?
Come again?
You want me to repeat myself?
It is not possible, as far as I know, to add a folder structure to my bookmarks in the way I can in IE of FF (don't know about Chrome, rarely used it).
You want me to repeat myself?
It is not possible, as far as I know, to add a folder structure to my bookmarks in the way I can in IE of FF (don't know about Chrome, rarely used it).
sure it's possible, but it's not as straight forward as FF or IE is. It's straight forward a-la OSX style.
...errr, just gooooogle it.
Zzzz . . . they still make Firefox?
Indeed they do:
May 2010 \t
IE8 16.0%
IE7 9.1%
IE6 7.1%
Firefox 46.9%
Chrome 14.5%
Safari 3.5%
Opera 2.2%
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
sure it's possible, but it's not as straight forward as FF or IE is. It's straight forward a-la OSX style.
...errr, just gooooogle it.
I had googled it before, but not sure why I didn't find it before.
Figured it out finally, but it's still a crap bookmark-editor imo.
At least I can have folders now. No need for FireFox for me.
That said I am testing nightly betas and I am impressed. FF4 is way faster at booting, Windows UI is amazing (they are still working on mac version), it looks like they will have TABS ON TOP OPTION. And of course page load speeds are hella faster, as fast as chrome and much more fluid. Can't wait for the final, which might woo me back to using FF as default.
PS Used to run safari as secondary, but after google did extensions, themes and tabs on top I dropped it in favor of chrome (which then became primary is FF continued to slow down). Reader button is cool though.
Having to use 1password as a separate app (which probably just piggybacks off keychain) is a waste of money. It's also unreliable in that it doesn't lock itself properly and seems like it missed the detailed user testing stage.
If Firefox and their iphone app offer the capability of storing a little extra information as well not just the form data it could be very promising.
Won't launch with Tiger.
QuickTime, for me, works great.
Ya and flash works great on Nvidia's website. I thought his point was quite good, Jobs always complains about flash and says html5 is the future, if that is so then why does apple still require quick time plugin's to play videos on their website?
...but one thing that keeps me coming back time and time again despite having safari and chrome in the dock next to it is....the awesome bar......it's freakin awesome
Indeed they do:
May 2010 \t
IE8 16.0%
IE7 9.1%
IE6 7.1%
Firefox 46.9%
Chrome 14.5%
Safari 3.5%
Opera 2.2%
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
1) w3schools is like talking AppleInsider or MacRumour browser stats, they aren?t even close to accurate. How about ArsTechnica which puts IE in the lead.
2) Why highlight Safari and not Chrome? Are you make a pejorative comment about Safari but Chrome gets a pass? Silly!
3) The entire point of the browser wars fighting against IE and Mozilla?s uphill battle with Firefox was to get open standards in place. That has been accomplished, with even MS following suit with IE9 (which is moving faster than Firefox right now, and has a real change of overtaking it in standards compliance).
4) Everything else should just be put under the WebKit, because that is all that matters. No one should care if Safari or Chrome has the most marketshare, the point is that they all run the same things. Now that so many browsers are so compliant, the only real choice are the options each app has to fit the user?s needs.
1) w3schools is like talking AppleInsider or MacRumour browser stats, they aren?t even close to accurate. How about ArsTechnica which puts IE in the lead.
No matter how you slice it, Apple's cross-platform Safari is unloved by most, with FF eclipsing it in market share many times over in every survey you can find.
No matter how you slice it, Apple's cross-platform Safari is unloved by most, with FF eclipsing it in market share many times over in every survey you can find.
:sigh: I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you just want to demonize anything Apple does. Did you really think 100% of all Mac users would use Safari or that Safari for Windows would be huge hit when it?s engine was used for switch in iTunes? How about WebKit?s dominance on mobiles and growing use on desktops and consoles? Yes, it?s all shit!