Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China, curtains off Shanghai store

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  • Reply 21 of 43
    minderbinderminderbinder Posts: 1,703member
    Ah, the headline is much clearer now. Thanks.
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  • Reply 22 of 43
    anakin1992anakin1992 Posts: 283member
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    Originally Posted by canucklehead View Post


    Definitely something lost in translation.



    I suspect "bad temper" = unwillingness to customize Apple devices and services to accommodate China's censorship of information.



    it should be "unwillingness to customize apple devices and services to accommodate chinese customers' special requirements".



    couple of possible requirements and rationale about them:



    1: provide some low end devices to chinese market:



    regardless how many upper class chinese customers they are, majority of chinese can not simply afford apple products. if apple can strip down some products and sell them cheaper in china, it would be great.



    2: provide localized app market to chinese market:



    99% of those who can afford apple products simply DONT speak english or read it well. without local support and localized app, the full potential of apple devices are not utilized.



    3: build apple devices in china for local chinese users:



    yes, apple products are built in china, but all of them are shipped out, not for internal consumption. the ridiculous thing is that chinese re-imported those apple devices to its internal market through tariff channel. thus there are an extra charge on apple devices. maybe WTO membership might reduce the tariff a lot.



    the potential of apple's present in china is hugh, particularly on those young who start to know there is an alternative platform, if not the best, in their computational needs.
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  • Reply 23 of 43
    machead75machead75 Posts: 28member
    Why was it difficult to manufacture the white iPhone 4 and is it prone to discoloration?
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  • Reply 24 of 43
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by MacHead75 View Post


    Why was it difficult to manufacture the white iPhone 4 and is it prone to discoloration?



    As a guess, I would say the colour is part of the glass so it won?t discolour over time and the white colouration is the reason it?s harder to produce a consistence look, whereas with black infused glass any variances will be completely unnoticeable to the eye.
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  • Reply 25 of 43
    danielswdanielsw Posts: 906member
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    Originally Posted by MacHead75 View Post


    Why was it difficult to manufacture the white iPhone 4 and is it prone to discoloration?



    I'm guessing it's those little holes for the proximity sensor. Guessing they have to be laser cut and they had to experiment to get the right power settings, etc.
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  • Reply 26 of 43
    foo2foo2 Posts: 1,077member
    Still waiting to hear how Apple intends to appease iPhone 4 customers over the death grip issue. (The "stunning" bars issue is entirely separate). A free bumper or credit for a previously purchased bumper seems reasonable to me.
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  • Reply 27 of 43
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    Originally Posted by Ecphorizer View Post



    HTML Code:
    Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China, curtains off Shanghai store
    So on first glance it appears that because Apple is missing out in China, Lenovo curtained off (screened off) the Lenovo Shanghai store. I guess a semicolon rather than a comma would have helped!







    Do you honestly think grammar is a part of an editorial review at AI? I hope not, expectation certainly leads to disappointment here.
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  • Reply 28 of 43
    akhomerunakhomerun Posts: 386member
    despite the ipod and iphone sales explosion, apple has always been very sensible about retail expansion, and about expanding into new territory. before apple can reach the chinese masses, they need to establish a premium prescience making the iphone and macs the desired product for the wealthy in china. only then will they be able to introduce products that cater to the chinese mass consumer.



    and if you think about it, apple is in no position to make a fully localized product designed for the masses. lenovo is chinese, and manufacturers their own product, while apple struggles sometimes with maintaining its fast growing array of software and hardware products. in just a few years, apple has gone from a company with one operating system, to two, spanning lots of different hardware. apple came out of never making a phone to making one of the best on the market, and that's no small feat when compared to the relatively slow improvements the rest of the industry has made (the iphone is only as good as it is as a brand new product because of steve jobs' extremely high standards, and vision of how this product should work. i think that's the only thing that can explain the original iphone's groundbreaking interface and breakthrough deal apple made with at&t to put more power in the hands of cell phone manufacturers)



    in short, you can see the shanghai store being built now, so don't you think this has a lot to do with the timing of lenovo's statements? they are scared silly of apple, and this guy even admits that if apple put more resources into china (which they will very, very soon) that they will crush lenovo.



    lenovo admitting this is absolutely incredible.



    lenovo is scared shitless because lenovo makes higher quality, more expensive computers and hardware, just like apple. they are only recently starting to make products intended for the chinese mass market.



    lenovo, apple, and sony are essentially the only major premium computer makers on the planet. apple makes up something like 80% of computer sales $1000+, and while not that many people buy computers at that pricerange, nobody makes a better profit margin in the computer industry than apple. yeah lenovo, be very, very scared.
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  • Reply 29 of 43
    akhomerunakhomerun Posts: 386member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ecphorizer View Post



    HTML Code:
    Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China, curtains off Shanghai store
    So on first glance it appears that because Apple is missing out in China, Lenovo curtained off (screened off) the Lenovo Shanghai store. I guess a semicolon rather than a comma would have helped!



    i've seen newspapers separate this kind of thing with a comma. i believe it is the proper method of separating two separate thoughts in a headline.



    the only problem is that the two thoughts are far too unrelated, it should read:



    Lenovo says Apple is missing out on China, curtains off Apple Shanghai store
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  • Reply 30 of 43
    rbonnerrbonner Posts: 635member
    This seems like poking Steve with a stick to see if he get's pissed.
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  • Reply 31 of 43
    chopperchopper Posts: 246member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by akhomerun View Post


    i've seen newspapers separate this kind of thing with a comma. i believe it is the proper method of separating two separate thoughts in a headline.



    the only problem is that the two thoughts are far too unrelated, it should read:



    Lenovo says Apple is missing out on China, curtains off Apple Shanghai store



    Might as well add my $0.02.



    The headline as you phrase it reads like Lenovo is saying that Apple is missing out on China, and that Lenovo has curtained off Apple Shanghai store.



    Or Lenovo is saying that Apple is missing out on China, and that Lenovo is also telling everyone that the curtains are off Apple Shanghai store.







    Perhaps the following...



    Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China even as the curtains are removed from the new Apple Store Shanghai.



    Any advance on that?
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  • Reply 32 of 43
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chopper View Post


    Might as well add my $0.02.



    The headline as you phrase it reads like Lenovo is saying that Apple is missing out on China, and that Lenovo has curtained off Apple Shanghai store.



    Or Lenovo is saying that Apple is missing out on China, and that Lenovo is also telling everyone that the curtains are off Apple Shanghai store.



    It’s ambiguous but if someone is only reading the headline then it’s not really an issue. If the headline grabs them then that is okay. Sometimes headlines aren’t very forthcoming or simply funny.
    Quote:

    Perhaps the following...



    Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China even as the curtains are removed from the new Apple Store Shanghai.



    Any advance on that?



    Your seems too long to me. How about:
    “Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China; curtains off Apple’s Shanghai store"
    Specify the store as being Apple’s and use a semicolon, as previously mentioned.
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  • Reply 33 of 43
    chopperchopper Posts: 246member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post




    Your seems too long to me. How about:
    ?Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China; curtains off Apple?s Shanghai store"
    Specify the store as being Apple?s and use a semicolon, as previously mentioned.



    Still ambiguous though, semicolon notwithstanding. I guess the matter comes down to clarity vs brevity and the article as posted favors the latter over the former as does your suggestion.



    You could use a period to improve clarity, thus...



    "Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China. Curtains taken off Apple?s Shanghai store."



    Writing headlines for a living probably causes me to try and avoid ambiguity so I'm no doubt biased. I'd personally err on the side of clarity but then I'm not blogging.
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  • Reply 34 of 43
    spicedspiced Posts: 98member
    IBM was Thinkpad's origin but passing the baton (not torch) to Lenovo liken the downhill of this once great product line



    If you don't innovate don't salivate at others and worst bad mouthing. So just move go!
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  • Reply 35 of 43
    spicedspiced Posts: 98member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    It’s ambiguous but if someone is only reading the headline then it’s not really an issue. If the headline grabs them then that is okay. Sometimes headlines aren’t very forthcoming or simply funny.
    Your seems too long to me. How about:
    “Lenovo says Apple is missing out in China; curtains off Apple’s Shanghai store"
    Specify the store as being Apple’s and use a semicolon, as previously mentioned.



    Why not just flip the title first giving Apple the lime light then the bad mouthing by Lenovo. Still works!
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  • Reply 36 of 43
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    As a guess, I would say the colour is part of the glass so it won’t discolour over time and the white colouration is the reason it’s harder to produce a consistence look, whereas with black infused glass any variances will be completely unnoticeable to the eye.



    Maybe they also had trouble with the proximity sensor.... it is already inconsistent on the black models, and the white ones further need holes on the glass...
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  • Reply 37 of 43
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member
    Lenovo who?
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  • Reply 38 of 43
    dokodoko Posts: 6member
    Fashionable hardware is part of the whole appeal. Chinese are well aware that most other, locally manufactured, hardware is nearly worthless.



    Consider that a new PC's can be had for little over USD100. Windows XP is everywhere available for less than USD1.00.



    No "cool" Chinese kid wants to be seen or wishes for such a computer.

    With China's One-Child-Policy, kids are priority #1. Family money flows together to buy that MacBook Pro, iPhone or iPad, absolutely no problem.



    The growth of Apple in China will be phenomenal.
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  • Reply 39 of 43
    spicedspiced Posts: 98member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by doko View Post


    Fashionable hardware is part of the whole appeal. Chinese are well aware that most other, locally manufactured, hardware is nearly worthless.



    Consider that a new PC's can be had for little over USD100. Windows XP is everywhere available for less than USD1.00.



    No "cool" Chinese kid wants to be seen or wishes for such a computer.

    With China's One-Child-Policy, kids are priority #1. Family money flows together to buy that MacBook Pro, iPhone or iPad, absolutely no problem.



    The growth of Apple in China will be phenomenal.



    Yes agreed. The "only one" demand is like an emperor's command!
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  • Reply 40 of 43
    retiariusretiarius Posts: 142member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rbonner View Post


    This seems like poking Steve with a stick to see if he get's pissed.



    so how will lenovo do against apple director ms. jung?
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