EZPass as well as the numerous variations on the concept. Swipe and Go and all of variations based upon it. Not to mention all the modern employee badge systems put into place at many large employers are all variations on the general concept termed near field communications.
Try and avoid donning the tinfoil hats if at all possible... They tend to scare away the new AI forum members.
I love the doom-sayers. In japan almost every phone is able to pay bills and make purchases it has nothing to do with big brother and everything to do with a fast easy way to take care of business.
When the government get's rid of money all together then you can start to worry a bit more.
Keep on Keepin' on chickenlittles
Yeah! Some see the conspiracy theory in public toilets!.
... The Gum'mint, and anyone willing to buy their records, already has more data on you, your web surfing habits, nuances, preferences, etc. than NFC/RFID is going to expose.
NFC/RFID is no danger!
I can remember back in the late 1940s - early 1950s. There were no such things as credit cards. You payed cash for everything and left no trail.
If you wanted something, but did not have the cash to pay for it, you could set up a lay-away plan with the retailer:
-- you would pay in so much a month to a merchant's special lay-away account until the balance reached the purchase price
-- the merchant would agree to to provide the product at the agreed-upon price at the time the account was opened
Around that time, several major department store chains (Dayton-Hudson) issued metal embossed (AddressoGraph) Charge-A-Plate cards to their preferred customers. The customer could walk into the store, select merchandise, present the Charge-A-Plate card, and leave the store with the merchandise. The full amount was to be paid within 30 days.
Later, this evolved into credit cards as we know them today.
Interestingly, grocery and food chains were among the last to adopt credit card payments-- a carry-over from the great depression was that it was improper to sell, or buy food on credit.
This is just convenience progress-- with no more or less exposure of personal data.
And what on gods green earth leads you to believe cancer risk has ever been a sticking point with corporations OR governments when it come marketing to the general public? I'm living... Err dying proof that it doesn't mean a gosh darn thing.. So long as the government is getting it's vig they'll turn a blind eye again and again.
I don't think Apple would release one end of a technology without the other end being ready. FaceTime is a perfect example, in which Apple didn't just arbitrarily throw a front-facing camera on the phone without the accompanying software being ready.
Maybe Apple provides the POP hardware and/or software to retailers that works with the new iPhone. I doubt they'd just throw the NFC-enable iPhones into the wild and hope everything sorts itself out.
There already are some limited NFC/RFID "transactions" taking place in the US.
If it becomes pervasive, who, how and where will all these transactions be processed?
EZPass as well as the numerous variations on the concept. Swipe and Go and all of variations based upon it. Not to mention all the modern employee badge systems put into place at many large employers are all variations on the general concept termed near field communications.
Is "modern" really the correct descriptor? I started using one of the keycards in 1993 and the company I had joined at the time wasn't the first. Hence, this is twenty-year old technology.
Sure makes these tinfoil hat alarmists sound even more country bumpkin. All y'all have cellphones, right?
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EZPass as well as the numerous variations on the concept. Swipe and Go and all of variations based upon it. Not to mention all the modern employee badge systems put into place at many large employers are all variations on the general concept termed near field communications.
Try and avoid donning the tinfoil hats if at all possible... They tend to scare away the new AI forum members.
I love the doom-sayers. In japan almost every phone is able to pay bills and make purchases it has nothing to do with big brother and everything to do with a fast easy way to take care of business.
When the government get's rid of money all together then you can start to worry a bit more.
Keep on Keepin' on chickenlittles
Yeah! Some see the conspiracy theory in public toilets!.
... The Gum'mint, and anyone willing to buy their records, already has more data on you, your web surfing habits, nuances, preferences, etc. than NFC/RFID is going to expose.
NFC/RFID is no danger!
I can remember back in the late 1940s - early 1950s. There were no such things as credit cards. You payed cash for everything and left no trail.
If you wanted something, but did not have the cash to pay for it, you could set up a lay-away plan with the retailer:
-- you would pay in so much a month to a merchant's special lay-away account until the balance reached the purchase price
-- the merchant would agree to to provide the product at the agreed-upon price at the time the account was opened
Around that time, several major department store chains (Dayton-Hudson) issued metal embossed (AddressoGraph) Charge-A-Plate cards to their preferred customers. The customer could walk into the store, select merchandise, present the Charge-A-Plate card, and leave the store with the merchandise. The full amount was to be paid within 30 days.
Later, this evolved into credit cards as we know them today.
Interestingly, grocery and food chains were among the last to adopt credit card payments-- a carry-over from the great depression was that it was improper to sell, or buy food on credit.
This is just convenience progress-- with no more or less exposure of personal data.
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And what on gods green earth leads you to believe cancer risk has ever been a sticking point with corporations OR governments when it come marketing to the general public? I'm living... Err dying proof that it doesn't mean a gosh darn thing.. So long as the government is getting it's vig they'll turn a blind eye again and again.
Well said!
How is the battle going, Dave?
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I don't think Apple would release one end of a technology without the other end being ready. FaceTime is a perfect example, in which Apple didn't just arbitrarily throw a front-facing camera on the phone without the accompanying software being ready.
Maybe Apple provides the POP hardware and/or software to retailers that works with the new iPhone. I doubt they'd just throw the NFC-enable iPhones into the wild and hope everything sorts itself out.
There already are some limited NFC/RFID "transactions" taking place in the US.
If it becomes pervasive, who, how and where will all these transactions be processed?
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EZPass as well as the numerous variations on the concept. Swipe and Go and all of variations based upon it. Not to mention all the modern employee badge systems put into place at many large employers are all variations on the general concept termed near field communications.
Is "modern" really the correct descriptor? I started using one of the keycards in 1993 and the company I had joined at the time wasn't the first. Hence, this is twenty-year old technology.
Sure makes these tinfoil hat alarmists sound even more country bumpkin. All y'all have cellphones, right?
/rimshot
Well said!
How is the battle going, Dave?
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This Just In: "Chemo still sucks!"
Especially on hot muggy summer days, having said that, I'm still keepin up the good fight.
This Just In: "Chemo still sucks!"
Especially on hot muggy summer days, having said that, I'm still keepin up the good fight.
Great to hear... Good thoughts!
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