(I'm trying to figure out why I was called insane for trying to inform people of the potential risk with sharing location information.)
No camroid, as matt_s said, you're totally sane and probably one of the few people here with direct real-world experience in the matter.
I don't hang around with shady folks at all, and in fact I'd be accused of the total opposite (!), but I've heard via "friends of friends" about some of the specifics of the bad side of this stuff. Knowing your regular schedule is enough to put you into a higher risk category, but passing out your whereabouts in real-time is insane.
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Originally Posted by matt_s
The opposite, really... you're one of the few clear thinking individuals. I've been concerned by this whole Location-based leash that Apple collars on all their iOS 4 users... even when you try to OPT OUT, you can't really OPT OUT. That's just damned spooky in itself.
Yes indeed. That's enough for me that I won't own a iPhone4 device until/unless there's a way to completely disable that problem (I will not call it a "feature").
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody
... this still sounds insane to me. ... I live in a very high crime area on the bad side of town and I think this is just ridiculous.
Dude, then you are living in a bubble and have no clue of what "the other side" looks like. This kind of info is hugely valuable to the many shady characters that we all live among.
Maybe you don't care about safety and getting robbed (might make sense, given where you've chosen to live?), maybe you don't have enough material possessions to care, maybe you don't have family and kids to worry about. A lot of us have all of the above, and it's just fucking pointless to be posting your real-time location out on the net. Period. It's not that you have a statistically high likelihood of instantly getting taken advantage of, but you're seriously on the wrong side of a weighted risk/reward ratio.
This may or may not apply to you, personally, but to the general case "you", who do have hundreds of "friends", including many that they really don't know all that well. If you have 10-20 really tight real-world friends that comprise the entire set of FB friends, then you're probably not too bad.
But guys like camroidv27 have real world experience that you're not only ignoring, but attempting to disparage. That's not smart.
I'm curious, exactly how many FB friends do you have right now? Serious question.
Do you trust all of their friends? Both online FoF as well as in real world?
Do you trust that none of their accounts will ever get hacked? Or accidentally left logged in somewhere?
(you may be intelligent enough to follow policy changes closely and change your behavior accordingly, but millions don't and won't)
Last, very important point ->
Remember, you're not just publishing your whereabouts and data to your friends, you're giving that information to The Facebook Corporation. And if you think they're your friends, well, I think it's obvious they're not. Their motivations revolve around trying to push everyone to publish as much information about themselves as possible because it's valuable to THEM, not to you. If there's one thing people should remember, it's that.
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(I'm trying to figure out why I was called insane for trying to inform people of the potential risk with sharing location information.)
No camroid, as matt_s said, you're totally sane and probably one of the few people here with direct real-world experience in the matter.
I don't hang around with shady folks at all, and in fact I'd be accused of the total opposite (!), but I've heard via "friends of friends" about some of the specifics of the bad side of this stuff. Knowing your regular schedule is enough to put you into a higher risk category, but passing out your whereabouts in real-time is insane.
The opposite, really... you're one of the few clear thinking individuals. I've been concerned by this whole Location-based leash that Apple collars on all their iOS 4 users... even when you try to OPT OUT, you can't really OPT OUT. That's just damned spooky in itself.
Yes indeed. That's enough for me that I won't own a iPhone4 device until/unless there's a way to completely disable that problem (I will not call it a "feature").
... this still sounds insane to me. ... I live in a very high crime area on the bad side of town and I think this is just ridiculous.
Dude, then you are living in a bubble and have no clue of what "the other side" looks like. This kind of info is hugely valuable to the many shady characters that we all live among.
Maybe you don't care about safety and getting robbed (might make sense, given where you've chosen to live?), maybe you don't have enough material possessions to care, maybe you don't have family and kids to worry about. A lot of us have all of the above, and it's just fucking pointless to be posting your real-time location out on the net. Period. It's not that you have a statistically high likelihood of instantly getting taken advantage of, but you're seriously on the wrong side of a weighted risk/reward ratio.
This may or may not apply to you, personally, but to the general case "you", who do have hundreds of "friends", including many that they really don't know all that well. If you have 10-20 really tight real-world friends that comprise the entire set of FB friends, then you're probably not too bad.
But guys like camroidv27 have real world experience that you're not only ignoring, but attempting to disparage. That's not smart.
I'm curious, exactly how many FB friends do you have right now? Serious question.
Do you trust all of their friends? Both online FoF as well as in real world?
Do you trust that none of their accounts will ever get hacked? Or accidentally left logged in somewhere?
Do you trust that Facebook won't change their policies? So far their track record on this is abysmal. See: http://mattmckeon.com/facebook-privacy/
(you may be intelligent enough to follow policy changes closely and change your behavior accordingly, but millions don't and won't)
Last, very important point ->
Remember, you're not just publishing your whereabouts and data to your friends, you're giving that information to The Facebook Corporation. And if you think they're your friends, well, I think it's obvious they're not. Their motivations revolve around trying to push everyone to publish as much information about themselves as possible because it's valuable to THEM, not to you. If there's one thing people should remember, it's that.
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And lo-and-behold, Facebook has all those new "location" features turned ON by default!
Facebook is becoming Big Brother.
And they'll let your friends be Big Brother with them. The option to let your friends check you into places is enabled by default too.