that reminds me of Kieth (rolling stones guitarist) saying when Kurt Cobain died: "who cares some spoiled pissant who wrote a few songs offed himself"
meaning: he was derivative (though great) but when you are talking about careers as influential as the Rolling Stones . . . . I mean, what the hell... can't even come close to comparing.... one obviously stands in the shadow......if you can even see them... I sure can't!!!
Also the whole Oasis and Beatles comparison . . . I mean how idiotic can this Oasis kid be?!?!? we have already... most people with any real sense of music ... forgotten who Oasis were . . . what was their bloated, derivative, retro 70s anthem called again?????
Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc. were great in their day but I get just a little less excited after hearing them thousands of times. Bob Dylan might be my favorite overall but his songs are spread over many albums.
Oh, and also whether you want to admit it or not, the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack was a pretty massive pop album. Maybe not "serious" music but all the best songs of a genre on one album.
The way I look at it, the question of this thread demands that you look historically at who first created an influential sound that then could be seen as precursors to other great musicians: that's why Bowie is derivative: of the glam of the Velvet Underground and even Roxie Music, and the Clash are derivative of the Sex Pistols and a number of minor ska/punk bands of london in the times.
in this line it might be relevant to add Elvis somewhere here......
Did you wanna define "jazz" or "rock" or "pop"? Why not just say "music".
The "What's Going On" shout-out was right on!
Howsabout:
The Birthday Party - Junkyard
Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising/Sister/Daydream Nation
Parliament/Funkadelic - America Eats It's Young
The Boredoms - WoW 2
Peter Brotzmann Octet - Machine Gun
Coltrane - Love Supreme
Charles Gayle - Touchin' On 'Trane
Miles - Bitches Brew/Jack Johnston/Big Fun/Live Evil/Agharta/Pangaea/On The Corner
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Nirvana - In Utero
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On?
James Brown - the Star Time box
Congos - Heart of the Congos
African Headcharge/Dub Syndicate/Singers & Players - all the early stuff
Crap. This is hard. I can't stop adding titles. Just give all of 'em a 1/2 point or so, or don't cuz none of 'em are gonna make the list. Though I strongly suggest y'all check 'em out.
splode
who now wants to go home and peruse the CD / vinyl collection
wow, someone else has heard of the birthday party . . . . !
I personally think that their first ep is better than Junkyard . . . but that one too has its moments . . . though I've just gotten back in to enjoying Nick Cave's solo stuff . . . it seems much more mature when its not down right laughable.
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2. Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan
3. Blood on the Tracks - Bob Dylan
4. The Basement Tapes - Bob Dylan + The Band
5. Love & Theft - Bob Dylan
The first three can be arranged depending on mood.
that reminds me of Kieth (rolling stones guitarist) saying when Kurt Cobain died: "who cares some spoiled pissant who wrote a few songs offed himself"
meaning: he was derivative (though great) but when you are talking about careers as influential as the Rolling Stones . . . . I mean, what the hell... can't even come close to comparing.... one obviously stands in the shadow......if you can even see them... I sure can't!!!
Also the whole Oasis and Beatles comparison . . . I mean how idiotic can this Oasis kid be?!?!? we have already... most people with any real sense of music ... forgotten who Oasis were . . . what was their bloated, derivative, retro 70s anthem called again?????
1) London Calling The Clash
2) London Calling The Clash
3) London Calling The Clash
4) London Calling The Clash
5) London Calling The Clash
(2) Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything
(3) Spinal Tap - Break Like The Wind
(4) Faith No more - The Real Thing
(5) Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave
(6) Sex Pistols - NMTB
(7) Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc. were great in their day but I get just a little less excited after hearing them thousands of times. Bob Dylan might be my favorite overall but his songs are spread over many albums.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
1) Raising Hell - Run D.M.C.
2) It Takes A Nation of Millions... - Public Enemy
3) Straight Outta Compton - N.W.A.
4) Low-End Theory - Tribe Called Quest
5) Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers - Wu-Tang Clan
2) OK Computer - RadioHead
3) Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
4) Station to Station - David Bowie
5) Coming Up - Suede
[quote]Originally posted by scott_h_phd:
<strong>You all are clueless. Here's my list
1) London Calling The Clash
2) London Calling The Clash
3) London Calling The Clash
4) London Calling The Clash
5) London Calling The Clash</strong><hr></blockquote>
in this line it might be relevant to add Elvis somewhere here......
2. The Rolling Stones, -All the other albums
3. Keith Richards, Main Offender
4. Neil Young, -Unplugged (Despite the poor nameing)
5. Tom Waits, -Rain Dogs
Add ons:
1. Dylan, -Blond on Blond
2. Siggurrós. -
1 meddle
2 wywh
3 dsotm
any and all roio you can get your hands on, dating 1967-1977.
mika
Rough one.
Did you wanna define "jazz" or "rock" or "pop"? Why not just say "music".
The "What's Going On" shout-out was right on!
Howsabout:
The Birthday Party - Junkyard
Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising/Sister/Daydream Nation
Parliament/Funkadelic - America Eats It's Young
The Boredoms - WoW 2
Peter Brotzmann Octet - Machine Gun
Coltrane - Love Supreme
Charles Gayle - Touchin' On 'Trane
Miles - Bitches Brew/Jack Johnston/Big Fun/Live Evil/Agharta/Pangaea/On The Corner
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Nirvana - In Utero
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On?
James Brown - the Star Time box
Congos - Heart of the Congos
African Headcharge/Dub Syndicate/Singers & Players - all the early stuff
Crap. This is hard. I can't stop adding titles. Just give all of 'em a 1/2 point or so, or don't cuz none of 'em are gonna make the list. Though I strongly suggest y'all check 'em out.
splode
who now wants to go home and peruse the CD / vinyl collection
I personally think that their first ep is better than Junkyard . . . but that one too has its moments . . . though I've just gotten back in to enjoying Nick Cave's solo stuff . . . it seems much more mature when its not down right laughable.
2. Mindfunk: Mindfunk
3. Backyard Babies: Total 13 Rock Chaos
4. Pearl Jam: Pearl Jam
5. Spock's Beard: V
Funkadelic: Funkadelic
Electric Ladyland: Jimi
What's Going On: Marvin
Journey In Satchidadanda: Alice Coltrane
Ascension: John Coltrane
*****'s Brew: Miles Davis
Dollar Brand: Good News from Africa
Dance to the Music: Sly and the Family Stone
Jodeci: Diary of a Mad Band (contentious...)
Fear of a Black Planet: Public Enemy
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alice coltrane LOL -- i mean yeah sure she's fun to listen to . . . but the best album ever?!?!?!?
Dollar brand . . . yeah that's cool... and that's why I like these boards . . . where alse would anybody else have ever heard of them....
but if were going for good and obscure... or the best outside stuff:
Air --(henry Threadgills, fred hopkins and..ogh name eccapes me but he's the heart and soul of it drummer) Suisse Air --Live in Montraoux
Eric Dolphy --Out to Lunch
Coltrane With Pharoh Sanders and Alice Coltrane --Village Vangaurd again!!!
World Saxophone Quartet -tribute to Ellington
Frank Zappa --Weasels Ripped my Flesh (which I'm listening to right now :cool: )!!!!!!!!
John Zorn --Cristalnacht
Huskar Du --Land Speed Record
Coltrane --selfessness
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<strong>1. Sex Pistols, Never Mind The Bullocks
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Never Mind The "Bullocks"?! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> John Lydon meets Old MacDonald!
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