Nokia buys analytics firm to compete with Apple's App Store

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  • Reply 21 of 37
    buckbuck Posts: 293member
    This only means one thing - APPLE IS DOOMED!
  • Reply 22 of 37
    joe hsjoe hs Posts: 488member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mickeymantle View Post


    It's actually They're (they are) not there



    *not the OP*
  • Reply 23 of 37
    stevetimstevetim Posts: 482member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mickeymantle View Post


    It's actually They're (they are) not there



    OK



    How about they're bringing a plastic knife to a gun fight.
  • Reply 24 of 37
    rot'napplerot'napple Posts: 1,839member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    For starters, they've got to lose the name Ovi.



    Or add to it... like...



    Ovi-One-Cannotbe?...



    May the Uselessness be with you...



    Apologies to Luke Skywalker.
  • Reply 25 of 37
    rot'napplerot'napple Posts: 1,839member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Paul94544 View Post


    Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people's money. —Margaret Thatcher, 1976



    That would make George W Bush's admin a socalist one wouldn't it? and clintons's not



    First, President's don't create appropriations (spend money), Congress does. President's just sign the spending into law or Veto it and can have that veto no vote overridden by Congress.



    Who was in control of Congress in 2006? Democrats had the Majority then, including Senator Barrack Obama, and in 2008 a Super Majority where Bush or Republicans could do nothing to stop them from spending others peoples money until America is broke.



    When did America start running out of Money? 2006 would be my guess...



    Ergo, Democrats are the Socialists here as defined by Margaret Thatcher.



    Who controlled Congress when Clinton was in office. Republicans, but more importantly, Conservatives! Which is what will hopefully happen in November... not Republican controll of Congress but Conservatives control Congress. Don't need RINO's!



    Care to revise and/or extend your remarks!
  • Reply 26 of 37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    Or add to it... like...



    Ovi-One-Cannotbe?...



    May the Uselessness be with you...



    Apologies to Luke Skywalker.



    Or, ovi and done with!
  • Reply 27 of 37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    Who was in control of Congress in 2006? Democrats had the Majority then, including Senator Barrack Obama, and in 2008 a Super Majority where Bush or Republicans could do nothing to stop them from spending others peoples money until America is broke.



    Really, my questions are out of curiosity, since I hear this mentioned a lot.



    What specifically did the Democrats do in 2006 and 2007 - i.e., what legislation, with what financial consequences - to make America broke?



    And, did the President veto, or even threaten to veto, anything?



    Finally, how did the D's two years of control compare with the prior 6 years of GWB?



    Add: In terms of my personal political views, it falls somewhere between a pox-on-both-houses and its-all-pointless-to-try-and-counter.
  • Reply 28 of 37
    NOKIA is the Best!!!
  • Reply 29 of 37
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,390member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post


    The motivation of this purchase -- to compete with Apple -- is nowhere to be found in Nokia's statement. I believe you're reading too much in a small purchase (8 people company) that is likely peanuts for Nokia. Here is a link to the original press release:



    http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1439186



    You're wasting your time trying to speak logic around here, they will just spend the rest of the tread laughing at a non-english word
  • Reply 30 of 37
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,744member
    Just how far behind the curve is Nokia?
  • Reply 31 of 37
    bwinskibwinski Posts: 164member
    [QUOTE=AppleInsider;1699335]As software development for Nokia's Ovi platform struggles to compete with Apple's iOS and App Store, the Finnish phone maker has purchased analytics firm Motally to boost its offering.



    Sorry fellas....this won't do it. I'm a Nokia owner...It WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN...



    Nokia wonders why they are having a hard time gaining market share in the US...It's because their offerings ARE JUNK.. The Ovi store is a joke.. They have almost NOTHING that is applicable to users in the US, and buying a firm that allows developers to put their apps on the platform is a LOSING strategy for the US...



    Oh, and it also has to do with the way that Nokia USA treats it's customers... I have a 5230 that was bought from a web retailer IN THE US just before they launched with T-Mobile earlier this year. I downloaded a simple Accu-Weather free app. from the Ovi store for the phone - A WEATHER APP!!! It hung in the install and now the phone will NOT delete the app or it's associated files with a "File Corrupt" error.. Calling to Nokia USA tech support yields nothing, not even a recording, but an email to the tech support folks yields "GO AWAY"..Do Not Contact us again because your phone was NOT purchased in the US and therefore we WILL NOT HELP YOU..."" This is a LIE.



    OK..I won't help you either fools...I'm done with you and will bad mouth you every where I can...Thanks..
  • Reply 32 of 37
    sennensennen Posts: 1,466member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    First, President's don't create appropriations (spend money), Congress does. President's just sign the spending into law or Veto it and can have that veto no vote overridden by Congress.



    Who was in control of Congress in 2006? Democrats had the Majority then, including Senator Barrack Obama, and in 2008 a Super Majority where Bush or Republicans could do nothing to stop them from spending others peoples money until America is broke.



    When did America start running out of Money? 2006 would be my guess...



    That would after 4 years and how many billion flushed down the toilet in Iraq? And how many billion more since? You are up to $900 billion as of last month, but that wouldn't have anything to do with America being "broke", would it? Nor the public having to bail private banking institutions out of the crap they landed everyone in, right?
  • Reply 33 of 37
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,390member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bwinski View Post


    Oh, and it also has to do with the way that Nokia USA treats it's customers... I have a 5230 that was bought from a web retailer IN THE US just before they launched with T-Mobile earlier this year. I downloaded a simple Accu-Weather free app. from the Ovi store for the phone - A WEATHER APP!!! It hung in the install and now the phone will NOT delete the app or it's associated files with a "File Corrupt" error.. Calling to Nokia USA tech support yields nothing, not even a recording, but an email to the tech support folks yields "GO AWAY"..Do Not Contact us again because your phone was NOT purchased in the US and therefore we WILL NOT HELP YOU..."" This is a LIE.



    Just because the company you brought it from was US based, doesn't mean the item you purchased was imported by Nokia. Grey Imports happen everywhere, and in some countries it is legal. Go back to the company you purchased it from and complain to them.
  • Reply 34 of 37
    tsatsa Posts: 129member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post


    Nokia is dead in the waters. Android will bury it in a few years.



    There, FTFY.
  • Reply 35 of 37
    jahonenjahonen Posts: 364member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Bwinski View Post


    ...The Ovi store is a joke.. They have almost NOTHING that is applicable to users in the US, and buying a firm that allows developers to put their apps on the platform is a LOSING strategy for the US...



    Hmm. Funny. Pretty much what I hear people in Europe bitching (if they bitch about apps) about in regards to the App Store. They are annoyed with the fact that many of the really nice apps are US centric and far smaller amount of apps are international in scope.



    But just a question: Joikuspot, shazam, Maps, I Parked Here, Foreca Weather, Gravity etc.etc are not applicable to the US? Or is your gripe that many of the apps are not US centric, rather than international?



    Nobody is saying App Store is bad or doesn't have apps or that the competition has anywhere close to the AS's volume, but saying the there is NOTHING in the competitor's portfolio is fooling yourself.



    Regs, Jarkko
  • Reply 36 of 37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by york2600 View Post


    As an employee of an analytics company with SDKs for Blackberry, iOS, and Android I have to respond here. They didn't block analytics. They just blocked what you can track. They basically blocked anything that would give away an Apple prototype unit. Their move had nothing to do with consumer privacy and everything to do with Steve being mad that mobile analytics tipped off the iPhone 4.



    Collecting data is fine for any company that is analytics ONLY.



    That was fine for Motally. But now they are owned by Nokia (who competes with Apple) a company who's primary business is NOT marketing/analytics.



    This means that the "analytics clause" in the SDK will now come into effect and prevent Motally from collecting analytics data, as they used to be able to.



    If your company is not owned by anyone else, or is owned by a purely marketing company, then you will never be affected by the analytics clause.
  • Reply 37 of 37
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 4,643member
    Every company out there seems to be trying to lure developers away form apple or at least convince them to port their iSO apps over to their platform.



    The standard argument why not since they can make more due to larger base of products. However, most of the smart developers realize real fast it not worth it since they are only making money because they are small and it extremely easily to support the iSO user base and apple provide a whole set of tools to make it easy for them.



    Plus, what other company holds a developer conference like apple does and you get to meet Steve and hear, "oh one more thing" knowing full well the one more thing usually an opportunity to make more money.



    MS has not been successful at paying developers to defect and android is showing its growing pains since a small % of user are willing pay for an app and people are not too keen of Google knowing everywhere they go and what they do with their phone, what makes Nokia think that developer will rush to their platform just because they have ad $.



    No of these company have yet to realize why apple is successful, that are like oh apple did this we need to do that that is the secret of their success. Idiots that is all I can say
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