Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen sues Apple over patents

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  • Reply 41 of 55
    United States Patent No. 6,757,682 issued for an invention entitled "Alerting Users to Items of Current Interest."



    Drives me fucking crazy!!!
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  • Reply 42 of 55
    ruel24ruel24 Posts: 432member
    I think this is proof that the patent system needs overhauled. No one should be granted vague general patents on mere concepts. There should be specific patents and only obtainable by having working prototypes, using valid technological advancement to accomplish the task. At this rate, the court systems will be in gridlock in a few years, just because of patent claims.
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  • Reply 43 of 55
    smerchsmerch Posts: 25member
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    Originally Posted by DaveGee View Post


    They're certainly an easy target, but no... They're just following the rules as they were handed down to them. It's certainly not in their power to dismiss something indiscriminately (except for perpetual motion patents --- those are weeded out to the best of their ability)...



    Why? Well you know (grabbing my tinfoil hat)... its a big government conspiracy and 'big oil' is at the heart of it all...







    I'm trying to figure out why you're still posting on this subject, when it was pointed out earlier that you have no idea what you're talking about?
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  • Reply 44 of 55
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
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    Originally Posted by astrubhar View Post


    He probably ran out of money, thus he needs more. Here we are today.



    He's actually donated more money to philanthropic causes than you'll make in 100 lifetimes.



    Money isn't the issue here.
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  • Reply 45 of 55
    What rich irony. The guy becomes a billionaire off a company that has knocked-off just about everything it does for its living, and he sues over something as trivial and meaningless as this?!
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  • Reply 46 of 55
    justflybobjustflybob Posts: 1,337member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    He needs money to go Yankees on his Seattle Seahawks and buy himself a Super Bowl..



    Best team money can buy.



    Yeah, he also needs to put some serious dollars in the Trail Blazers.

    But, oh wait, he did.....



    Then he proceeded to fire the GM that was actually making it all work. Nice!



    Perhaps the oddly funny (to me at least) situation with Allen is his Charter fiasco. The guy plops an estimated $7 billion into Charter in an effort to take on Comcast, only to have Microsoft step in behind him and bolster their own holdings in Comcast, making it very difficult for Charter to survive.
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  • Reply 47 of 55
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    When are software patents just going to die? Honestly, this is the biggest load of innovation stifling nonsense I have ever heard. All these big companies are just building up their arsenals of incredibly obvious patents so in the end, no one will be able to do anything without their go ahead.



    Yep:



    Apple sues HTC for infringing 20 iPhone patents

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/a...phone-patents/



    Apple Files New Trade Complaint With Against Nokia

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aOUohioz.WXc



    Apple Sues Eastman Kodak for Patent Infringement

    http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...ringement.html
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  • Reply 48 of 55
    hutchohutcho Posts: 132member
    I am in no way saying that Apple is immune to this - in fact, Apple is one of the biggest criminals in this whole scam. We saw it just the other day with the patent that was blatently copying the Where To? app.



    All these big companies are building up their arsenals and getting ready for a fight. At the moment, the only guys I can see left standing at the end are in fact these big guys. I sincerely hope the people in charge of the US system step in an stop this before it truly stifles innovation.



    At least this type of thing is not legal in Europe, and there is a chance that innovation will thrive there, the US will see it and stop this nonsense.
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  • Reply 49 of 55
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaveGee View Post


    They're certainly an easy target, but no... They're just following the rules as they were handed down to them. It's certainly not in their power to dismiss something indiscriminately (except for perpetual motion patents --- those are weeded out to the best of their ability)...



    Why? Well you know (grabbing my tinfoil hat)... its a big government conspiracy and 'big oil' is at the heart of it all...







    Explain to me why perpetual motion patents can't be accepted?
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  • Reply 50 of 55
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Shouldn't those last two be amended to countersues?



    Besides Nokia is claiming ownership of WiFi.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RationalTroll View Post


    Yep:



    Apple sues HTC for infringing 20 iPhone patents

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/a...phone-patents/



    Apple Files New Trade Complaint With Against Nokia

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aOUohioz.WXc



    Apple Sues Eastman Kodak for Patent Infringement

    http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...ringement.html



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  • Reply 51 of 55
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lowededwookie View Post


    Explain to me why perpetual motion patents can't be accepted?



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion#Patents



    Quote:

    Patents

    Proposals for such inoperable machines have become so common that the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has made an official policy of refusing to grant patents for perpetual motion machines without a working model. The USPTO Manual of Patent Examining Practice states:



    With the exception of cases involving perpetual motion, a model is not ordinarily required by the Office to demonstrate the operability of a device. If operability of a device is questioned, the applicant must establish it to the satisfaction of the examiner, but he or she may choose his or her own way of so doing.



    And, further, that:



    A rejection of a patent application on the ground of lack of utility includes the more specific grounds of inoperativeness, involving perpetual motion. A rejection under 35 U.S.C. 101 for lack of utility should not be based on grounds that the invention is frivolous, fraudulent or against public policy.



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  • Reply 52 of 55
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
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    Originally Posted by bfpseller View Post


    I agree. Money is not an issue. It's ego.

    Paul may be afraid many people forgets him as the co-founder of Microsoft



    No, money is the issue. Allen hasn't had any real big business successes lately and his pro sports teams aren't drawing like they used to. You don't sue on ideas from a small scale business that's only real income was on licensing a patent portfolio unless you are intending on making big bucks.
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  • Reply 53 of 55


    But what if someone makes a perpetual machine that actually DOES work? Does that mean they will forever be unable to get a patent for that machine?
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  • Reply 54 of 55
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,123member
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    He's actually donated more money to philanthropic causes than you'll make in 100 lifetimes.



    Money isn't the issue here.



    Of course it's the issue. I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who admits to having too much money, and pretty much everyone always wants more.



    But, I guess this is what ex microsofties do when they no longer have any ideas.
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  • Reply 55 of 55
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
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    Originally Posted by bfpseller View Post


    But then suing Google, eBay, Apple, a bunch of big giants at the same time is not a smart move. Why don't pick one that you likely will win and sue the other companies after you win.



    Also why don't Paul file the suit in East Texas if he wants to have more chance to win



    Maybe you are illuminating why his post MS businesses haven't seen anywhere near the success of MS.
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