Earlier today I called asking about why there was a Sept. 30th cut off for the free bumpers. I was like, if I buy my iPhone 4 after Sept. 30th why would I not get a free bumper anymore? They told me it was because the new units shipped after Sept 30th will be fixed.
To release an updated phone would essentially be admitting the phone was flawed or defective
By your logic then, Apple can never update the iPhone. Sorry, you're off-base.
If this rumor proves false, as most of us think it will, it won't be because Apple was afraid of admitting fault. It would be because Apple wants to make more profits selling a phone that they've already sunk R&D into instead of spending millions on a redesign (regardless of whether that redesign was warranted.) Apple (read: Steve Jobs) is stubborn; release schedules shall not be deviated from! Because 99% of iPhone 4 buyers are satisfied, Apple is raking in money and has very very little incentive to change anything at this point. So they won't.
The iPhone revision in October will defy the laws of physics.
Apple?s solution will be allow all the asshats that think the iPhone 4 is ?short circuiting? and has a "design flaw? simply by virtue of the fact the antenna is the frame to have their unused pre-frontal lobes replaced with powerful antennas so that when placed in the hand the body will act as a conduit offering the best reception of any phone in the industry? providing you?re an idiot.
There probably wont be any antenna revision or recall. Apple Inc has done a fine job of distorting the truth and convincing everyone there is no antenna problem. And like Santa's elves, the Apple Insider forum is helping to spread the lies that the whole thing was "made up by bloggers."
No, my friends. There is a problem with the antenna and Apple needs to address it. Get out the Kleenex. There are going to be a lot of tears on this forum today. Truth always hurts the fanboys.
Earlier today I called asking about why there was a Sept. 30th cut off for the free bumpers. I was like, if I buy my iPhone 4 after Sept. 30th why would I not get a free bumper anymore? They told me it was because the new units shipped after Sept 30th will be fixed.
And you think this person was privvy to info that very, very few people inside Apple would even know about, because?
America Movil (Telcel in Mexico) is one of the 3 or 4 largest mobile carriers in the world with subscribers in México, Brasil, Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Argentina, Uruguay, Honduras, Paraguay, Chile and Perú.
It's common sense that Apple will put some kind of fix. After all, they wouldn't want to put pictures of iPhone with case all around web. That was first-aid kinda step. Real solution is some hardware fix. Like many people said bfr, they can put a coating on that bloody band.
Bumpers are very welcome. But waiting until October for hardware fix.
How can an opinion be full of shit? You think the Bumpers are welcome. You are waiting to see if their is a HW fix coming in October. Or are you saying this is a fact? If so, you’ll have to provide an argument that this is a fact, not just a guess or a desire on your part.
How can an opinion be full of shit? You think the Bumpers are welcome. You are waiting to see if their is a HW fix coming in October. Or are you saying this is a fact? If so, you’ll have to provide an argument that this is a fact, not just a guess or a desire on your part.
He's saying that about his own sig you do realize right? Also an opinion can be full of shit when it's based on entirely erroneous information. Like saying Mick Jagger is the worst female singer of the 60s. It's an opinion, but also demonstrably false.
He's saying that about his own sig you do realize right?
Yes, as noted by copying of his sig into the quoted area of my reply. My query is wondering why he thinks anyone would think his opinion or wishes are full of shit. It?s only statements of opinions stated as unwavering facts despite a lack proof where one could say they are full of shit.
But blocking the signal is not the issue, the issue is detuning. Apple held the press conference and gave free cases to play it safe and reassure potential customers they would be looked after. They even say you can return it free of charge within 30 days, to clear themselves legally.
Detuning is not industry wide and it needs a case or a hardware fix. These guys are obsessive, Steve won't sleep right until they provide a hardware fix to remove that weak spot.
+1
Unfortunately there are no more analog TVs for people to demonstrate this, but for those of us who have, the difference is very apparent. If you stand next to a TV with rabbit ears, yes, it affects the picture a little because you are blocking (attenuating) the signal, putting your hand close to the antenna can also cause a slight effect on turning. But move your hand that last 1/2 cm to contact the antenna and you really mess up the reception. It's a completely different effect than you get from simple signal attenuation/blockage.
Since the signal is digital, it's probably not as great of an effect as seen on an analog TV and the signal processor can deal with it to a degree, but it was still a poor design decision to allow such close contact with the antenna.
They even say you can return it free of charge within 30 days, to clear themselves legally.
Apple didn?t create this, it was in place, at least in the US, long before the iPhone came along.
If there is a new iPhone 4 coming out in October there I predict there will be class action lawsuits filed almost immediately. We may even hear about them that very day.
Aren?t we up to 50 countries now? And this only seemed to be an issue with the US, despite reports from most of the very same reviewers saying they got reception in places they never had it before. Seems to me that making some huge public deal about a new iPhone 4 just three months after its launch would be very, very costly to Apple?s bottom line.
Yes, as noted by copying of his sig into the quoted area of my reply. My query is wondering why he thinks anyone would think his opinion or wishes are full of shit. It?s only statements of opinions stated as unwavering facts despite a lack proof where one could say they are full of shit.
I've seen the prototype. The revised iPhone 4 (4.1 actually) has a small button on the top near the center. You pull it, and out pops a short telescopic antenna, kinda like what you see on a kid's walkie talkie. Works great from what I hear, as long as you don't touch it.
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EDIT: This call was before this rumor was posted.
To release an updated phone would essentially be admitting the phone was flawed or defective
By your logic then, Apple can never update the iPhone. Sorry, you're off-base.
If this rumor proves false, as most of us think it will, it won't be because Apple was afraid of admitting fault. It would be because Apple wants to make more profits selling a phone that they've already sunk R&D into instead of spending millions on a redesign (regardless of whether that redesign was warranted.) Apple (read: Steve Jobs) is stubborn; release schedules shall not be deviated from! Because 99% of iPhone 4 buyers are satisfied, Apple is raking in money and has very very little incentive to change anything at this point. So they won't.
The iPhone revision in October will defy the laws of physics.
Apple?s solution will be allow all the asshats that think the iPhone 4 is ?short circuiting? and has a "design flaw? simply by virtue of the fact the antenna is the frame to have their unused pre-frontal lobes replaced with powerful antennas so that when placed in the hand the body will act as a conduit offering the best reception of any phone in the industry? providing you?re an idiot.
No, my friends. There is a problem with the antenna and Apple needs to address it. Get out the Kleenex. There are going to be a lot of tears on this forum today. Truth always hurts the fanboys.
Ireland's signature is full of shit.
Fortunately we will know in 2 months.
Earlier today I called asking about why there was a Sept. 30th cut off for the free bumpers. I was like, if I buy my iPhone 4 after Sept. 30th why would I not get a free bumper anymore? They told me it was because the new units shipped after Sept 30th will be fixed.
And you think this person was privvy to info that very, very few people inside Apple would even know about, because?
America Movil (Telcel in Mexico) is one of the 3 or 4 largest mobile carriers in the world with subscribers in México, Brasil, Colombia, Ecuador, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Argentina, Uruguay, Honduras, Paraguay, Chile and Perú.
Everything but "small in comparison"
Why let facts get in the way?
And you think this person was privvy to info that very, very few people inside Apple would even know about, because?
Because lately, Apple has more holes than Swiss cheese. Its been pretty much all over the news. A leak at Apple is very easy to believe.
Ireland's signature is full of shit.
Bumpers are very welcome. But waiting until October for hardware fix.
How can an opinion be full of shit? You think the Bumpers are welcome. You are waiting to see if their is a HW fix coming in October. Or are you saying this is a fact? If so, you’ll have to provide an argument that this is a fact, not just a guess or a desire on your part.
How can an opinion be full of shit? You think the Bumpers are welcome. You are waiting to see if their is a HW fix coming in October. Or are you saying this is a fact? If so, you’ll have to provide an argument that this is a fact, not just a guess or a desire on your part.
He's saying that about his own sig you do realize right? Also an opinion can be full of shit when it's based on entirely erroneous information. Like saying Mick Jagger is the worst female singer of the 60s. It's an opinion, but also demonstrably false.
He's saying that about his own sig you do realize right?
Yes, as noted by copying of his sig into the quoted area of my reply. My query is wondering why he thinks anyone would think his opinion or wishes are full of shit. It?s only statements of opinions stated as unwavering facts despite a lack proof where one could say they are full of shit.
But blocking the signal is not the issue, the issue is detuning. Apple held the press conference and gave free cases to play it safe and reassure potential customers they would be looked after. They even say you can return it free of charge within 30 days, to clear themselves legally.
Detuning is not industry wide and it needs a case or a hardware fix. These guys are obsessive, Steve won't sleep right until they provide a hardware fix to remove that weak spot.
+1
Unfortunately there are no more analog TVs for people to demonstrate this, but for those of us who have, the difference is very apparent. If you stand next to a TV with rabbit ears, yes, it affects the picture a little because you are blocking (attenuating) the signal, putting your hand close to the antenna can also cause a slight effect on turning. But move your hand that last 1/2 cm to contact the antenna and you really mess up the reception. It's a completely different effect than you get from simple signal attenuation/blockage.
Since the signal is digital, it's probably not as great of an effect as seen on an analog TV and the signal processor can deal with it to a degree, but it was still a poor design decision to allow such close contact with the antenna.
They even say you can return it free of charge within 30 days, to clear themselves legally.
Apple didn?t create this, it was in place, at least in the US, long before the iPhone came along.
If there is a new iPhone 4 coming out in October there I predict there will be class action lawsuits filed almost immediately. We may even hear about them that very day.
Aren?t we up to 50 countries now? And this only seemed to be an issue with the US, despite reports from most of the very same reviewers saying they got reception in places they never had it before. Seems to me that making some huge public deal about a new iPhone 4 just three months after its launch would be very, very costly to Apple?s bottom line.
Yes, as noted by copying of his sig into the quoted area of my reply. My query is wondering why he thinks anyone would think his opinion or wishes are full of shit. It?s only statements of opinions stated as unwavering facts despite a lack proof where one could say they are full of shit.
I believe it's more like a prediction for him.
I believe it's more like a prediction for him.
A predictions are fine, too. It?s the stating a prediction or assumption as fact that I take issue with.