I think the whole thing was blown WAY out of proportion, and police were over-reaching their bounds and what people deem as appropriate.
California state law deems it theft if you find something and don't make a valid attempt to return it. Walking out of that bar with a phone that was not his and then, despite claiming to have the owners facebook account info, not contacting the owner, is refusing to make an attempt. Plus they have the roommate's statement that Hogan basically said "tough cookies, I've got a free iphone"
Gizmodo took possession of said item and paid for it. Thus purchase of stolen property comes into play. ANd they admitted they had it and they paid an amount that made it a felony.
The police were within their rights. They never asked Chen to reveal any sources, thus shield laws aren't applicable.
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Originally Posted by sheff
Thought they would have settled this by now.
This isn't some civil suit. It is criminal. the Cali DA, not Apple, is the big dog. ANd given how much technology is a big business in California, I don't see them just brushing off this kind of deal.
If you had your phone stolen and you knew where it was, would you want the cops to bust down somebody's door? I would. And this prototype was worth a hell of a lot more than the 200 bucks I spent on my last phone.
The door was busted down long after Apple had their phone returned. Sorry to bring up facts. They can get in the way of a good rant.
California state law deems it theft if you find something and don't make a valid attempt to return it. Walking out of that bar with a phone that was not his and then, despite claiming to have the owners facebook account info, not contacting the owner, is refusing to make an attempt. Plus they have the roommate's statement that Hogan basically said "tough cookies, I've got a free iphone"
Gizmodo took possession of said item and paid for it. Thus purchase of stolen property comes into play. ANd they admitted they had it and they paid an amount that made it a felony.
The police were within their rights. They never asked Chen to reveal any sources, thus shield laws aren't applicable.
Don't forget the extortion attempts. Actually, not only have the police not abused their powers in any way (as implied by the op) they've bent over backwards not to "violate" rights Chen doesn't even have. California apparently needs to clarify its shield law to make sure that claiming to be a journalist doesn't become a license to tie the cops hands when committing various felonies.
Sometimes the truth is even stranger than sarcasm.
The cops were part of a special task force funded largely by Apple.
Ummm. No. You lie, like the rug on the floor.
EVERY Silicon Valley company is invited to participate in meetings of the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (REACT) Advisory Committee. It is how the local police gain insight into how to do forensics and treat counterfeiting, illegal hacking and high-tech industrial espionage cases amongst other Silicon Valley flavored crime issues. No company controls it, it works for and is totally funded by the District Attorney.
This has been hashed out at length previously in the open press and here on the boards.
Really? And AppleOutsider got some proof for that? Bullshit, then?
Are you trying to be an ignorant tool?
It is open and easily verified knowledge that Engadget posted some pics of an iPhone 4g prototype from overseas a couple days before the whole Gizmodo thing blew up.
The entire frakking intarwebs be the proof. Try a pair of searches on "Engadget iphone 4" & "Gizmodo iphone 4" and compare the dates, then go back and think before you post BS when you are on the wrong end of the bull.
Scum is not worth paying attention... Still, it's now acknowledged by Engadget itself, that the first iPhone 4 pictures ever surfaced the web on Feb 20th/21st 2010, while Engadget posted theirs on Apr 17th.
Just another load of bullshit from AppleOutsider.
P.S. Why don't you noobs just STFU? The board is unreadable because of your endless brainless trolling...
STFU, go troll on your ubuntu forums, go to hell, I tell you...
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I think the whole thing was blown WAY out of proportion, and police were over-reaching their bounds and what people deem as appropriate.
What is appropriate and what people deem to be appropriate are not always the same thing .... especially in this day and age.
I think the whole thing was blown WAY out of proportion, and police were over-reaching their bounds and what people deem as appropriate.
California state law deems it theft if you find something and don't make a valid attempt to return it. Walking out of that bar with a phone that was not his and then, despite claiming to have the owners facebook account info, not contacting the owner, is refusing to make an attempt. Plus they have the roommate's statement that Hogan basically said "tough cookies, I've got a free iphone"
Gizmodo took possession of said item and paid for it. Thus purchase of stolen property comes into play. ANd they admitted they had it and they paid an amount that made it a felony.
The police were within their rights. They never asked Chen to reveal any sources, thus shield laws aren't applicable.
Thought they would have settled this by now.
This isn't some civil suit. It is criminal. the Cali DA, not Apple, is the big dog. ANd given how much technology is a big business in California, I don't see them just brushing off this kind of deal.
Mega, mega hits.
And the day after he's put in the slammer, "Jason Chen Experiences a Whole New Kind of 'FaceTime'."
I think I got banned from Gizmodo for saying something like that. Or maybe it was something else. Whatev.
The police raid was probably ordered by Steve Jobs. He no doubt owns the police.
No, it's the Freemasons. They control everything. Didn't you watch National Treasure?
And the day after he's put in the slammer, "Jason Chen Experiences a Whole New Kind of 'FaceTime'."
Ouch.
Steve, Droid has your Market Share...
Good, I hope Android does even better and more people buy it, that will improve iPad and iPhone 4 availability around the world.
If you had your phone stolen and you knew where it was, would you want the cops to bust down somebody's door? I would. And this prototype was worth a hell of a lot more than the 200 bucks I spent on my last phone.
The door was busted down long after Apple had their phone returned. Sorry to bring up facts. They can get in the way of a good rant.
The police raid was probably ordered by Steve Jobs. He no doubt owns the police.
Sometimes the truth is even stranger than sarcasm.
The cops were part of a special task force funded largely by Apple.
California state law deems it theft if you find something and don't make a valid attempt to return it. Walking out of that bar with a phone that was not his and then, despite claiming to have the owners facebook account info, not contacting the owner, is refusing to make an attempt. Plus they have the roommate's statement that Hogan basically said "tough cookies, I've got a free iphone"
Gizmodo took possession of said item and paid for it. Thus purchase of stolen property comes into play. ANd they admitted they had it and they paid an amount that made it a felony.
The police were within their rights. They never asked Chen to reveal any sources, thus shield laws aren't applicable.
Don't forget the extortion attempts. Actually, not only have the police not abused their powers in any way (as implied by the op) they've bent over backwards not to "violate" rights Chen doesn't even have. California apparently needs to clarify its shield law to make sure that claiming to be a journalist doesn't become a license to tie the cops hands when committing various felonies.
What is appropriate and what people deem to be appropriate are not always the same thing .... especially in this day and age.
That's a two way street. Why is what you deem to be appropriate more correct than what he did?
Sometimes the truth is even stranger than sarcasm.
The cops were part of a special task force funded largely by Apple.
Ummm. No. You lie, like the rug on the floor.
EVERY Silicon Valley company is invited to participate in meetings of the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team (REACT) Advisory Committee. It is how the local police gain insight into how to do forensics and treat counterfeiting, illegal hacking and high-tech industrial espionage cases amongst other Silicon Valley flavored crime issues. No company controls it, it works for and is totally funded by the District Attorney.
This has been hashed out at length previously in the open press and here on the boards.
Sometimes the truth is even stranger than sarcasm.
The cops were part of a special task force funded largely by Apple.
Ah, dipping into conspiracy theory land, I see... As for myself, I fear Google watches me undress at night.
Although Engadget posted the first photos of the prototype...
Really? And AppleOutsider got some proof for that? Bullshit, then?
Really? And AppleOutsider got some proof for that? Bullshit, then?
Are you trying to be an ignorant tool?
It is open and easily verified knowledge that Engadget posted some pics of an iPhone 4g prototype from overseas a couple days before the whole Gizmodo thing blew up.
The entire frakking intarwebs be the proof. Try a pair of searches on "Engadget iphone 4" & "Gizmodo iphone 4" and compare the dates, then go back and think before you post BS when you are on the wrong end of the bull.
Just another load of bullshit from AppleOutsider.
P.S. Why don't you noobs just STFU? The board is unreadable because of your endless brainless trolling...
STFU, go troll on your ubuntu forums, go to hell, I tell you...