Apple sues 'HyperMac' accessory maker over MagSafe, iPod cables

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  • Reply 21 of 172
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post




    Googling iPhone charger AA gave a half dozen results on the first page, all that do what he wanted and use the 30 pin connector.



    Reread the part of my post where I said I found them via mailorder upon my return. And please lighten up on the personal remarks.
  • Reply 22 of 172
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,019member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hodgkin View Post


    Most external chargers require electricity. It's true that there's no reason why a AA battery hookup couldn't be made legitimately by using the licensed dock connector, but it's also relatively difficult to find a AA battery backup for the iPhone out in the middle of Nowheresville.



    Fixed that for you. Buy it right now and stash it in your sleeping bag or risk being labeled a procrastinator too. \



    http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-35159.html



    http://www.buy.com/prod/apple-ipod-i...211421329.html



    http://www.google.com/products/catal...1241795585072#



    http://www.google.com/products/catal...7407863458230#



    I'd keep going but the choices are endless. So much for having difficulty finding one!
  • Reply 23 of 172
    malaxmalax Posts: 1,598member
    First, go to Walmart.com and search for "USB charger." You will find literally dozens of options for charging your iPod. You just need your USB-to-30-pin cable.



    On the other hand, it is annoying that Apple doesn't license the MagSafe adaptor. How much money do they make selling their own power bricks that it makes sense to lock them down? Presumably the answer is something like "it's not the revenue from selling Apple-branded power supplies for MacBooks, it's the cost (in terms of dollars and good will) that they would bear from MacBooks damaged from bad knockoffs.
  • Reply 24 of 172
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    Originally Posted by Newtron View Post


    Reread the part of my post where I said I found them via mailorder upon my return.



    "No nothing until I got back with a dead phone and saw some obscure stuff on the 'web."



    From what others have posted, doesn't look all that obscure. Looks more like you'd just rather be mad at Apple than blame yourself for not doing a very good job at finding what was out there.
  • Reply 25 of 172
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    Originally Posted by Newtron View Post


    Thank you.



    And BTW, I was looking in a suburb of one of the top-10 biggest cities in the US. The suburb alone has a population of over 100k. I went to both a Radio Shack and a well-stocked specialty electronics store, as well as lesser, but more local possibilities, like Walgreens.



    Nothing.





    Ummm, This is why you have the web... Search and thou shalt find!
  • Reply 26 of 172
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    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    Fixed that for you. Buy it right now and stash it in your sleeping bag or risk being labeled a procrastinator too. \



    http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-35159.html



    http://www.buy.com/prod/apple-ipod-i...211421329.html



    http://www.google.com/products/catal...1241795585072#



    http://www.google.com/products/catal...7407863458230#



    I'd keep going but the choices are endless. So much for having difficulty finding one!



    Back up battery from monoprice is cheaper.



    I will say that it is true that you might not always be able to find a charger or external battery pack that has an apple connector.



    I find it hard to believe though, that you could not find an AA battery based solution that outputs power via usb.I see them at a lot of stores and they are usually pretty cheap too. Left your synch cable at home? I do that all the time and I can usually find one at almost any store that sells power adapters and such. I have never been accused of being the sharpest tool in the shed, but if I can find and put together a charging solution at a gas station in the middle of no where why can't you? Perhaps you are exaggerating just a wee bit? \
  • Reply 27 of 172
    Back to topic.



    I was furious when I read Apple's legal action against HyperMac.



    I have a long-life HyperMac battery. Said to last around 10-12 hours. If Apple does not allow other manufacturers to make these products for the Mac -- and Apple does not -- then it is just plain spitefulness.



    There's going to come a day, possibly in the next iteration of Windows, then Windows -- which might not be AS good as OSX -- but it's good enough. I might hop off the train.
  • Reply 28 of 172
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    Originally Posted by Newtron View Post


    It's really too bad that Apple refuses to allow their proprietary connector to have much of an ecosystem....



    Do you *ever* know what you're talking about?



    The issue here is unauthorised and unlicensed use. Apple would probably be more than happy with these guys if they stopped using their property without permission or even asked permission.



    Besides which, a company that's so grey-market that Apple's high-powered legal team can't even find the actual owners *names* to sue them is hardly a reputable company of any kind. These guys are fly-by-night shysters and deserve what they get.
  • Reply 29 of 172
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    Originally Posted by Newtron View Post


    I went to both a Radio Shack.



    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=3848038





    Maybe they didn't have it in that particular store but if you asked a sales person maybe they could have had it shipped to you or the store the next day.



    You really need to look into things before you sound off and look like a "troll" or whatever they like to call you.



    Frankly, I don't mind hearing the opinion of people different than mine but at least if you're are hell-bent on being the vocal minority have some facts and intelligence to offer.
  • Reply 30 of 172
    Apple is being absolutely ludicrous here.



    The real problem here is that Apple REFUSES TO LICENSE ITS MAGSAFE CONNECTOR!!



    Therefore, without HyperMac doing what they're doing, we have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO PROVIDE EXTERNAL POWER TO OUR MACBOOKS if we are away from an electrical outlet!!



    Apple can go f*ck themselves this time around. I hope HyperMac wins this case, and kicks Apple to the curb.
  • Reply 31 of 172
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Newtron View Post


    Apple's lockdowns and their proprietary ways both just plain suck.



    Apparently we have discovered still something else you seem to know nothing about. FYI patents have to be vigorously defended or you will lose them ... by law.. This is not rocket science .... well, except maybe in your case.
  • Reply 32 of 172
    http://gizmodo.com/5643951/apple-sue...t-infringement



    For those looking for the patent law that applies here it seems gizmodo found it for us.
  • Reply 33 of 172
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scotty321 View Post


    Apple is being absolutely ludicrous here.



    The real problem here is that Apple REFUSES TO LICENSE ITS MAGSAFE CONNECTOR!!



    Therefore, without HyperMac doing what they're doing, we have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO PROVIDE EXTERNAL POWER TO OUR MACBOOKS if we are away from an electrical outlet!!



    Apple can go f*ck themselves this time around. I hope HyperMac wins this case, and kicks Apple to the curb.



    I feel your pain. I wanted a 12v (automotive power plug) charger for my macbook. I was really shocked when I found out that the only ones available were made by these folks. And the reason it was so expensive was because they had to build it from an Apple magsafe adapter because Apple refuses to license magsafe. Ended up using a 12v to 120 v inverter then plugging in my magsafe adapter to charge my macbook.



    Frustrating to say the least.
  • Reply 34 of 172
    This really sucks. Apple needs to provide low-cost licensing for the MagSafe. Acceptable alternatives would be to have a secondary charging port or replaceable batteries.



    What this means for me is that I'll need to buy a PC simply because I couldn't power my MacBook on some of the trips I go on.
  • Reply 35 of 172
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Newtron View Post


    The changes are cosmetic. The main problems remain unaddressed.



    You can fix that by refusing to post anymore!
  • Reply 36 of 172
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    Originally Posted by Celemourn View Post


    Bad form dude, really bad form. You're not asking questions, you're insulting. You're not defending Apple, which isn't your responsibility anyway, you're attacking someone else's expression of THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES and their desire to see the MagSafe connector licensed to 3rd party manufacturers.



    C



    His comment had nothing to do with MagSafe, which I hate not being licesnsed, but with him blaming Apple for his inability to find a battery charger with a 30-pin Dock Connector connected or standard USB connector that could use the iPhone's native cable, with or without a simple adapter.



    PS: how long has Apple used the USB-capable 30-pin Dock Connector and how many devices does that cover?
  • Reply 37 of 172
    sheffsheff Posts: 1,407member
    No no no. You come out and praise these guys for recycling your parts. Then you call greenpeace and tell them to find another manufacturer whose parts are being recycled to a degree that Apple's are. Then you win a special award and apology from them and gain a bunch of "green" customers.
  • Reply 38 of 172
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macslut View Post


    This really sucks. Apple needs to provide low-cost licensing for the MagSafe. Acceptable alternatives would be to have a secondary charging port or replaceable batteries.



    What this means for me is that I'll need to buy a PC simply because I couldn't power my MacBook on some of the trips I go on.



    Buying a PC will be a lot cheaper than buying what you need in advance?
  • Reply 39 of 172
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    You can't find a lot of things in Nowheresville but that doesn't mean I blame the builder of a product because I didn't think ahead.



    You are just a mean ASS. Chill the hell out. The guy was making a comment and you say LIE and incompetent.



    You need to take your meds and a nap.
  • Reply 40 of 172
    I bought an auto adapter for my MBP. It has the usual light plug on one end and the magsafe power connector on the other. Purchased from Other World Computing. I seldom use it, but on a long road trip it has come in handy. I don't think it is sold any longer by OWC.



    It looks like this:



    http://www.laptopbatteryhouse.com/la...l-p-33000.html



    OWC does sell this:



    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Micro...ies/APL125001/



    but it is more than twice as expensive, although it has additional features. They must have a license for it.



    This could be used with a 12 volt battery to run a MacBook Pro out in the woods. An iPhone can be charged from the MBP.
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