I have a chop-busting question - why didn't they sue three years ago when iPhone first came out?
They might've been in negotiations this whole time. Moto can hurt Apple a lot more than Apple can hurt Moto. Moto has the patent for the "mobile phone" and many many others.
Apple is already preparing to countersue as we speak.
In my humble estimation, this is a pre-emptive strike that all but confirms the fact that Apple's iPhone will definitely be making an appearance on the Verizon network in the USA, which is a declaration of escalated war on Android in general and Motorola+HTC in particular.
Motorola clearly sees this as an Apple manoeuvre to cut Motorola and HTC off at source, which is an indication of hostile intent if there ever was one.
If your quarry goes to ground, leave no ground to go to.
Someone is already suing Apple for Wireless email, 3G, GPRS, 802.11 wireless.. etc . It is getting really ridiculous.
It is interesting that Nokia is suing almost everyone else (HW makers).
Nokia is suing LCD manufacturers for price fixing, so Hitachi, LG, Samsung, Sharp, and Toshiba is not relevant lawsuits when they have nothing to do with patents.
So Nokia is basically just suing Apple right now.
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Originally Posted by jahonen
Quite a lot of assumptions there. Where did you get the 2USD/handset figure? I'd be interested in a source.
It could also be, that Motorola and Nokia are both in the right. Their stories seem very much identical in their lawsuits, negotiations etc. How many manufacturers do you need to come out with near identical stories to be swayed the other way (i.e. Apple doesn't want to pay FRAND)? Would you change your mind if in the next 6 months for example SonyEricsson (owner of many similar GSM and WIFI patents) comes with a similar lawsuit and similar story of failed negotiations? Maybe Qualcomm?
I'm not claiming either case, but you seem to be doing that with very little real evidence. That's why I wanted to point out the other just as propable possibility.
regs, Jarkko
I think you mean Ericsson, they sit on the patents.
And the royalty is often a % of ASP (average selling price).
I think you mean Ericsson, they sit on the patents.
Yup. should remember: do_not_write_in_haste
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Originally Posted by ariarinen
And the royalty is often a % of ASP (average selling price).
Yes it is. That's why I wanted a source for the 2USD/handset claim. Especially for as a % would likely be higher for a 600USD handset. I sometimes just get annoyed, when people blout assumptions without providing the facts backing it up. Then 100 others assume the statement as fact after that there's no changing it.
I'll be happy if he does provide a source for the claim. That means we all learn something.
If the software patents situation were the same in Europe and in the US, then why are all the patent infringement cases filled in US courts? I can't remember hearing about any patent litigation over here in Europe…
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I have a chop-busting question - why didn't they sue three years ago when iPhone first came out?
They might've been in negotiations this whole time. Moto can hurt Apple a lot more than Apple can hurt Moto. Moto has the patent for the "mobile phone" and many many others.
Apple is already preparing to countersue as we speak.
In my humble estimation, this is a pre-emptive strike that all but confirms the fact that Apple's iPhone will definitely be making an appearance on the Verizon network in the USA, which is a declaration of escalated war on Android in general and Motorola+HTC in particular.
Motorola clearly sees this as an Apple manoeuvre to cut Motorola and HTC off at source, which is an indication of hostile intent if there ever was one.
If your quarry goes to ground, leave no ground to go to.
- The Operative, Serenity
Someone is already suing Apple for Wireless email, 3G, GPRS, 802.11 wireless.. etc . It is getting really ridiculous.
It is interesting that Nokia is suing almost everyone else (HW makers).
Nokia is suing LCD manufacturers for price fixing, so Hitachi, LG, Samsung, Sharp, and Toshiba is not relevant lawsuits when they have nothing to do with patents.
So Nokia is basically just suing Apple right now.
Quite a lot of assumptions there. Where did you get the 2USD/handset figure? I'd be interested in a source.
It could also be, that Motorola and Nokia are both in the right. Their stories seem very much identical in their lawsuits, negotiations etc. How many manufacturers do you need to come out with near identical stories to be swayed the other way (i.e. Apple doesn't want to pay FRAND)? Would you change your mind if in the next 6 months for example SonyEricsson (owner of many similar GSM and WIFI patents) comes with a similar lawsuit and similar story of failed negotiations? Maybe Qualcomm?
I'm not claiming either case, but you seem to be doing that with very little real evidence. That's why I wanted to point out the other just as propable possibility.
regs, Jarkko
I think you mean Ericsson, they sit on the patents.
And the royalty is often a % of ASP (average selling price).
I think you mean Ericsson, they sit on the patents.
Yup. should remember: do_not_write_in_haste
And the royalty is often a % of ASP (average selling price).
Yes it is. That's why I wanted a source for the 2USD/handset claim. Especially for as a % would likely be higher for a 600USD handset. I sometimes just get annoyed, when people blout assumptions without providing the facts backing it up. Then 100 others assume the statement as fact after that there's no changing it.
I'll be happy if he does provide a source for the claim. That means we all learn something.
Regs, J