1. Then it isn't using an SSD. Remember it's not supposed to have a hard drive at all? The I/O is the bottleneck, so what if Apple just put a 16GB NAND chip on the logic board for the OS?
Won't make much difference. An iPad still takes 10 seconds to boot up when doing a restart, and can do instant-on from the moment the iOS is loaded up. A MacBook takes a while longer to boot up, but also has instant-on and stays that way until restart, so that point is moot. Unless I don't get what you are talking about.
I am more interested in iLife 11 than the MBA to be honest. No mention of mystery app or iWeb so far ... I hope this isn't all about iPad versions. I love iPad but hope this is all about Lion and new OS X apps today. The title back to the Mac would encourage me to think so
I'll most likely be buying iLife `11. I skipped '09 but would like to get the facial recognition in iPhoto. Hopefully they've uncrippled iMovie, iMovie HD still works but its UI feels out of date.
Will we see an iWork update as well?
I'm really hoping there's some good user & UI stuff shown off for 10.7. As others have said, 10.6 was about under the hood; now lets see a new paint job!
Doesn't the MBA have the ability to mount external drives over wifi and thus would have them mounted thus require or at least justify a dismount / eject key? I could be totally wrong never having played with one.
Yes, off course if does. And you also mount your iDisk and dmg files and consequently colud eject them with the eject key. But I have never seen anyone doing that to be honest. I only use the eject key to get a CD/DVD out of the drive. Don't ask me why...
My point is: you don't need that button at all. There are at least 3 different alternative ways to eject a drive, so why waste precious space on a small device for a fourth alternative?
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Originally Posted by ghostface147
It's a MacBook Air, not a Pro. It's not designed to scorch benchmarks. Silly idea to stick outdated chips into your sleek, advanced laptops.
Well, I don't really see people doing CPU-intense work on a MBA, do you? But I see them wanting to watch a youtube video without their MBA sounding like a jet engine... C2D + 320m is definitely the better option compared to Core iX + Intel graphics for my uses and I think for most people that are in the market for MBA.
The numbering of the Core-iX chips doesn?t denote clockspeed or TDP. There is only ONE with the TDP that would even be viable and I don?t think that is even on the market yet. It?s the Core-i5 and Core-7s that you probably mean, of which there are 4 and 5 chips, respectively, that fit into the necessary TDP.
But that is beside the point because to go with a Core-iX chip in that machine would also mean relying on Intel HD for the IGP. The better tradeoff is C2D with Nvidia 320M.
My point is: you don't need that button at all. There are at least 3 different alternative ways to eject a drive, so why waste precious space on a small device for a fourth alternative?
When it comes to a physically mounted drive I can see the need for an eject button. Since Apple uses slot loading drives, not a tray loading drive with a nifty physical button on the door, they needed to have something in place in case you couldn?t get the OS loaded to eject discs.
If they are removing the SuperDrives from the market (maybe just allowing 3rd-parties pick up the slack) then perhaps they will replace the button. Apple was the first to replace the unused PF keys with functional buttons and completely get rid of the pointless, fn-access number pad. Some might even say Apple is too quick to alter their keyboard setup.
When it comes to a physically mounted drive I can see the need for an eject button. Since Apple uses slot loading drives, not a tray loading drive with a nifty physical button on the door, they needed to have something in place in case you couldn?t get the OS loaded to eject discs.
Does the eject button actually work before the OS is loaded? It's purely software, isn't it?
Does the eject button actually work before the OS is loaded? It's purely software, isn't it?
It’s HW and SW, and does work before OS X is loaded. Think of the other keyboard commands that work before the OS is loaded. I think this is all part of EFI to control base drivers for the keyboard, trackpad, ODD, media detraction of other sources in boot sequence, etc., but that is beyond my ken so I’ll stop there.
It's a MacBook Air, not a Pro. It's not designed to scorch benchmarks. Silly idea to stick outdated chips into your sleek, advanced laptops.
maybe apple will surprise us all. but i am starting to suspect it may be a bit like the recent 'apple tv' release. exciting that it is being updated, but not so exciting after actually seeing the updates...
Honestly, I think iPhoto is a pretty awesome app, but I don't use the rest. IMHO iLife upgrade can't possibly be as exciting as hardware/OS innovation.
I know its not completely on topic, but somehow I could not find any hint, whether the Back to Mac event will be live streamed. Does any body have some knowledge about this?
The i3 has a comparable clock speed and is more efficient. Plus, for people that want some power to go with that battery life, it opens up the option of DDR3 memory.
It also has onboard graphics and a better memory controller...
maybe apple will surprise us all. but i am starting to suspect it may be a bit like the recent 'apple tv' release. exciting that it is being updated, but not so exciting after actually seeing the updates...
It?s a tiny little box with the same UI as before. There isn?t much to get excited about. Now a 11.6? MBA with some new innovations in how they boot the system, how they increase the anemic battery life (when compared to other Mac notebooks) might be interesting. Though personally, I?m more interested in the tear down.
PS: If they allow for cellular connectivity I?ll likely be first in line for this machine.
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Originally Posted by urbansprawl
Honestly, I think iPhoto is a pretty awesome app, but I don't use the rest. IMHO iLife upgrade can't possibly be as exciting as hardware/OS innovation.
I think iPhoto is nice but I only use it for a repository. I never go in to look at photos and subsequently have never cleaned them up.
t?s a daunted task that I simply don?t want to allocate time to do. What I?d love is an app that would periodically pull out a few pics (based on my settings) that pop up and ask me to rename, categorize, and add to Faces and Places. Something that I could take 30 seconds or a minute once or twice a day while in front of my machine and not think twice about it. I think I?d end up having them organized within a year while also getting a trip down memory lane. Can you work on that for me.
The i3 has a comparable clock speed and is more efficient. Plus, for people that want some power to go with that battery life, it opens up the option of DDR3 memory.
It also has onboard graphics and a better memory controller...
i3 is a great option for the MBA.
Seriously people, enough with the comments about Core-i3 being great for the MBA. You people are having a laugh or you have no idea what that you are talking about.
If you disagree find me the Core-i3 chips that you think would be ideal for the MBA.
I know its not completely on topic, but somehow I could not find any hint, whether the Back to Mac event will be live streamed. Does any body have some knowledge about this?
It doesn?t look like it, which I find odd after what a success the last streaming event was.
I know its not completely on topic, but somehow I could not find any hint, whether the Back to Mac event will be live streamed. Does any body have some knowledge about this?
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1. Then it isn't using an SSD. Remember it's not supposed to have a hard drive at all? The I/O is the bottleneck, so what if Apple just put a 16GB NAND chip on the logic board for the OS?
Won't make much difference. An iPad still takes 10 seconds to boot up when doing a restart, and can do instant-on from the moment the iOS is loaded up. A MacBook takes a while longer to boot up, but also has instant-on and stays that way until restart, so that point is moot. Unless I don't get what you are talking about.
I am more interested in iLife 11 than the MBA to be honest. No mention of mystery app or iWeb so far ... I hope this isn't all about iPad versions. I love iPad but hope this is all about Lion and new OS X apps today. The title back to the Mac would encourage me to think so
I'll most likely be buying iLife `11. I skipped '09 but would like to get the facial recognition in iPhoto. Hopefully they've uncrippled iMovie, iMovie HD still works but its UI feels out of date.
Will we see an iWork update as well?
I'm really hoping there's some good user & UI stuff shown off for 10.7. As others have said, 10.6 was about under the hood; now lets see a new paint job!
- Jasen.
P.S. 3 1/2 hours to go!
Core 2 and a real GPU is better than i3 and Intel's crap. Get over it.
It's a MacBook Air, not a Pro. It's not designed to scorch benchmarks. Silly idea to stick outdated chips into your sleek, advanced laptops.
Doesn't the MBA have the ability to mount external drives over wifi and thus would have them mounted thus require or at least justify a dismount / eject key? I could be totally wrong never having played with one.
Yes, off course if does. And you also mount your iDisk and dmg files and consequently colud eject them with the eject key. But I have never seen anyone doing that to be honest. I only use the eject key to get a CD/DVD out of the drive. Don't ask me why...
My point is: you don't need that button at all. There are at least 3 different alternative ways to eject a drive, so why waste precious space on a small device for a fourth alternative?
It's a MacBook Air, not a Pro. It's not designed to scorch benchmarks. Silly idea to stick outdated chips into your sleek, advanced laptops.
Well, I don't really see people doing CPU-intense work on a MBA, do you? But I see them wanting to watch a youtube video without their MBA sounding like a jet engine...
You can't stick an i3 in there instead?
The numbering of the Core-iX chips doesn?t denote clockspeed or TDP. There is only ONE with the TDP that would even be viable and I don?t think that is even on the market yet. It?s the Core-i5 and Core-7s that you probably mean, of which there are 4 and 5 chips, respectively, that fit into the necessary TDP.
But that is beside the point because to go with a Core-iX chip in that machine would also mean relying on Intel HD for the IGP. The better tradeoff is C2D with Nvidia 320M.
Control-Shift-Eject turns off the screen. Handy for battery conservation.
Been a Mac user since 8.6 on a Lombard. Didn't know this shortcut, and I love my keyboard shortcuts!
Thanks!
My point is: you don't need that button at all. There are at least 3 different alternative ways to eject a drive, so why waste precious space on a small device for a fourth alternative?
When it comes to a physically mounted drive I can see the need for an eject button. Since Apple uses slot loading drives, not a tray loading drive with a nifty physical button on the door, they needed to have something in place in case you couldn?t get the OS loaded to eject discs.
If they are removing the SuperDrives from the market (maybe just allowing 3rd-parties pick up the slack) then perhaps they will replace the button. Apple was the first to replace the unused PF keys with functional buttons and completely get rid of the pointless, fn-access number pad. Some might even say Apple is too quick to alter their keyboard setup.
It's a MacBook Air, not a Pro. It's not designed to scorch benchmarks. Silly idea to stick outdated chips into your sleek, advanced laptops.
You say it's not designed to scorch benchmarks but then you complain about it not having the latest chip.
I love these people. They make my argument for me.
You say it's not designed to scorch benchmarks but then you complain about it not having the latest chip.
That does seem contradictory.
When it comes to a physically mounted drive I can see the need for an eject button. Since Apple uses slot loading drives, not a tray loading drive with a nifty physical button on the door, they needed to have something in place in case you couldn?t get the OS loaded to eject discs.
Does the eject button actually work before the OS is loaded? It's purely software, isn't it?
Does the eject button actually work before the OS is loaded? It's purely software, isn't it?
It’s HW and SW, and does work before OS X is loaded. Think of the other keyboard commands that work before the OS is loaded. I think this is all part of EFI to control base drivers for the keyboard, trackpad, ODD, media detraction of other sources in boot sequence, etc., but that is beyond my ken so I’ll stop there.
It's a MacBook Air, not a Pro. It's not designed to scorch benchmarks. Silly idea to stick outdated chips into your sleek, advanced laptops.
maybe apple will surprise us all. but i am starting to suspect it may be a bit like the recent 'apple tv' release. exciting that it is being updated, but not so exciting after actually seeing the updates...
That does seem contradictory.
Not really.
The i3 has a comparable clock speed and is more efficient. Plus, for people that want some power to go with that battery life, it opens up the option of DDR3 memory.
It also has onboard graphics and a better memory controller...
i3 is a great option for the MBA.
maybe apple will surprise us all. but i am starting to suspect it may be a bit like the recent 'apple tv' release. exciting that it is being updated, but not so exciting after actually seeing the updates...
It?s a tiny little box with the same UI as before. There isn?t much to get excited about. Now a 11.6? MBA with some new innovations in how they boot the system, how they increase the anemic battery life (when compared to other Mac notebooks) might be interesting. Though personally, I?m more interested in the tear down.
PS: If they allow for cellular connectivity I?ll likely be first in line for this machine.
Honestly, I think iPhoto is a pretty awesome app, but I don't use the rest. IMHO iLife upgrade can't possibly be as exciting as hardware/OS innovation.
I think iPhoto is nice but I only use it for a repository. I never go in to look at photos and subsequently have never cleaned them up.
t?s a daunted task that I simply don?t want to allocate time to do. What I?d love is an app that would periodically pull out a few pics (based on my settings) that pop up and ask me to rename, categorize, and add to Faces and Places. Something that I could take 30 seconds or a minute once or twice a day while in front of my machine and not think twice about it. I think I?d end up having them organized within a year while also getting a trip down memory lane. Can you work on that for me.
Not really.
The i3 has a comparable clock speed and is more efficient. Plus, for people that want some power to go with that battery life, it opens up the option of DDR3 memory.
It also has onboard graphics and a better memory controller...
i3 is a great option for the MBA.
Seriously people, enough with the comments about Core-i3 being great for the MBA. You people are having a laugh or you have no idea what that you are talking about.
If you disagree find me the Core-i3 chips that you think would be ideal for the MBA.
I know its not completely on topic, but somehow I could not find any hint, whether the Back to Mac event will be live streamed. Does any body have some knowledge about this?
It doesn?t look like it, which I find odd after what a success the last streaming event was.
You need a drink. Have a nice glass of cider.
hahaha, good one.
I can't wait for the keynote, can anyone?
I know its not completely on topic, but somehow I could not find any hint, whether the Back to Mac event will be live streamed. Does any body have some knowledge about this?
They will stream live video:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/10/...ck-to-the-mac/