Maybe others have seen this but I can walk into any Union Wireless location and buy a new iphone, I wonder if there are other "local" wireless locales that are selling it.
By "local" I am referring to the entire state of Wyoming....just about everything in Wyoming is anything but "local."
If they do announce a Verizon iPhone in january and not ship until summer, they will really freeze up smartphone sales at Verizon. This is not the the same market that the first iPhone was sold into. I don't think Verizon could afford this kind of delay.
It may not even be in January. It could be late March/early April.
I am glad AT&T is focusing on smart phones other than the iPhone. There are a lot of people out there me being one of them who do not want an iPhone but have to or want to stay with AT&T.
AT&T pretty much carriered crap non-iPhone smart phone except for the blackberry.
It is nice to see AT&T to focus on something other than blackberry and iPhone.
Marketing. It makes certain people identify their own being with products. They rely upon product selection to communicate to others that they have good taste, or have lots of money, or whatever image they have swallowed from the marketing campaign.
Therefore, they have a vested interest in the marketing image of the product. Hence the distress when, for example, the iPad started to be sold at Mall*Wart. Those types went from being members of a cool, exclusive club to being hoi polloi - overnight.
Nice childish rants both of you, but consider too that some of us are shareholders in Apple and, yeah, we want to see an Apple win in the iOS v. Android competition.
The honeymoon is over. Apple wants an "open relationship" from now on, and they'll get it.
But the real news is that iPhone is finally breaking into the Verizon's protected Android enclave.
The fox will enter the henhouse with the usual results.
Android isn't doing nearly as well overseas as iOS is (Android - 26%, iOS - 40% as of June 2010.)
And that is mostly due to the fact that few international carriers have an exclusive on iPhone.
There are fewer places for Android to run and hide internationally, and soon the same
situation will be true in the US.
But cheer up, fandroids. Apple isn't the bad guy here. Android is doomed anyway, thanks to the
Oracle lawsuit. It's airtight. It's got legal precedent behind it. And Larry won't settle out of court.
Android doomed??? You are out of your mind. It is the fastest growing OS here in the US, they will get past this lawsuit and continue to grow at record passes.
Of those 2.6 million that AT&T added, only 1.25 were new iPhone customers. So, take away the iPhone factor, and 1.35 million customers joined AT&T last quarter buying the same phones that Verizon offers....well above Verizon's total of 1 million.
There are a few people on this forum who will always hate AT&T, but apparently the average consumer does not.....in fact more people prefer AT&T over Verizon.
Of those 2.6 million that AT&T added, only 1.25 were new iPhone customers. So, take away the iPhone factor, and 1.35 million customers joined AT&T last quarter buying the same phones that Verizon offers....well above Verizon's total of 1 million.
There are a few people on this forum who will always hate AT&T, but apparently the average consumer does not.....in fact more people prefer AT&T over Verizon.
But out of those people, a big portion of those are prepaid subscribers.
Q2+Q3 combined
AT&T has 1.250 million postpaid net adds
Verizon has 1.249 million postpaid net adds.
Since the iphone 4 was launched, the carrier with the iphone 4 has a 1000 postpaid subscriber advantage over the carrier without the iphone 4.
If they do announce a Verizon iPhone in january and not ship until summer, they will really freeze up smartphone sales at Verizon. This is not the the same market that the first iPhone was sold into. I don't think Verizon could afford this kind of delay.
Android is pretty close to iOS these days. Some people will delay buying a smartphone and wait, but I don't believe the majority will. Verizon's smartphone business will not freeze up.
Nice childish rants both of you, but consider too that some of us are shareholders in Apple and, yeah, we want to see an Apple win in the iOS v. Android competition.
Most of you are NOT. Meaning, his post is correct and DOES apply, to MOST people reading this.
Android doomed??? You are out of your mind. It is the fastest growing OS here in the US, they will get past this lawsuit and continue to grow at record passes.
Its not the fastest growing anything. You have to tie together a largely fragmented OS, from dozens of different versions, until you decide what a hypothetical Android OS actually is, then you make up the numbers based on everything with the Android trademark.
Its completely ridiculous and doesn't lend any credence to a growth argument. I'd be more than happy to entertain a discussion on how Android is doing vs. iOS. Unfortunately it can't happen, because iOS actually exists (as one identifiable thing) and "Android OS" does not. Its multiple things. On way too many phones, at way too many price points to establish any consistency.
Its a joke, in other words.
Show me ONE phone running Android that costs $199 and tell me how that does compared to the iPhone. Other than that, I don't care, and really shouldn't.
Gee, AT&T gets to flaunt all these other smartphones while Apple's hands are tied until 2011. Seems to me, AT&T's behavior must void some part of the exclusivity agreement. I agree though, AT&T will be fine, considering how many iPhone users are under contract for a year or two more. The most important thing is competition in the smartphone (all of them) service plan market. iPhone have paid a premium for service because, unless you went to a non-Apple handset, you only had one choice. With more choices of carrier, hopefully competition will put some pressure on these high rate plans and data plans.
I just got a mailer in from AT&T offering all sorts of new crap phones. They have never written to me before, since I had an iPhone. That seems to be abusing their mail list of iPhone users .. as you say you'd think it would be a breach of their agreement,
once again, they're scrambling to hold on to the customers they already have, rather than fix the real problem?their infrastructure. if they had put some of their profits back into their company, they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Android doomed??? You are out of your mind. It is the fastest growing OS here in the US, they will get past this lawsuit and continue to grow at record passes.
But Google will suck the mobile ad life out of Android, release a full mobile version of ChromeOS and retire Android from active support. Android was a stop-gap convenience to keep Apple from dominating mobile ad revenue with the App Store and iAds and let Google establish their mobile ad market - nothing more. Understand?
Again - this is Business 101. For all the Google cheerleading for "FREEDOM" and "OPEN" - it was emotional fodder for the clueless and naif fandroid supporters, who will be severely disillusioned when Google drops the drained husk of the Android community and eyes the customer base they will build on ChromeOS.
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By "local" I am referring to the entire state of Wyoming....just about everything in Wyoming is anything but "local."
If they do announce a Verizon iPhone in january and not ship until summer, they will really freeze up smartphone sales at Verizon. This is not the the same market that the first iPhone was sold into. I don't think Verizon could afford this kind of delay.
It may not even be in January. It could be late March/early April.
AT&T pretty much carriered crap non-iPhone smart phone except for the blackberry.
It is nice to see AT&T to focus on something other than blackberry and iPhone.
Marketing. It makes certain people identify their own being with products. They rely upon product selection to communicate to others that they have good taste, or have lots of money, or whatever image they have swallowed from the marketing campaign.
Therefore, they have a vested interest in the marketing image of the product. Hence the distress when, for example, the iPad started to be sold at Mall*Wart. Those types went from being members of a cool, exclusive club to being hoi polloi - overnight.
Nice childish rants both of you, but consider too that some of us are shareholders in Apple and, yeah, we want to see an Apple win in the iOS v. Android competition.
So in reality, they are preparing to make less money ...
The honeymoon is over. Apple wants an "open relationship" from now on, and they'll get it.
But the real news is that iPhone is finally breaking into the Verizon's protected Android enclave.
The fox will enter the henhouse with the usual results.
Android isn't doing nearly as well overseas as iOS is (Android - 26%, iOS - 40% as of June 2010.)
And that is mostly due to the fact that few international carriers have an exclusive on iPhone.
There are fewer places for Android to run and hide internationally, and soon the same
situation will be true in the US.
But cheer up, fandroids. Apple isn't the bad guy here. Android is doomed anyway, thanks to the
Oracle lawsuit. It's airtight. It's got legal precedent behind it. And Larry won't settle out of court.
The honeymoon is over. Apple wants an "open relationship" from now on, and they'll get it.
But the real news is that iPhone is finally breaking into the Verizon's protected Android enclave.
The fox will enter the henhouse with the usual results.
Android isn't doing nearly as well overseas as iOS is (Android - 26%, iOS - 40% as of June 2010.)
And that is mostly due to the fact that few international carriers have an exclusive on iPhone.
There are fewer places for Android to run and hide internationally, and soon the same
situation will be true in the US.
But cheer up, fandroids. Apple isn't the bad guy here. Android is doomed anyway, thanks to the
Oracle lawsuit. It's airtight. It's got legal precedent behind it. And Larry won't settle out of court.
Android doomed??? You are out of your mind. It is the fastest growing OS here in the US, they will get past this lawsuit and continue to grow at record passes.
ATT added 2.6 million new customers.
Verizon added almost 1 million new customers.
Of those 2.6 million that AT&T added, only 1.25 were new iPhone customers. So, take away the iPhone factor, and 1.35 million customers joined AT&T last quarter buying the same phones that Verizon offers....well above Verizon's total of 1 million.
There are a few people on this forum who will always hate AT&T, but apparently the average consumer does not.....in fact more people prefer AT&T over Verizon.
3Q Results
ATT added 2.6 million new customers.
Verizon added almost 1 million new customers.
Of those 2.6 million that AT&T added, only 1.25 were new iPhone customers. So, take away the iPhone factor, and 1.35 million customers joined AT&T last quarter buying the same phones that Verizon offers....well above Verizon's total of 1 million.
There are a few people on this forum who will always hate AT&T, but apparently the average consumer does not.....in fact more people prefer AT&T over Verizon.
But out of those people, a big portion of those are prepaid subscribers.
Q2+Q3 combined
AT&T has 1.250 million postpaid net adds
Verizon has 1.249 million postpaid net adds.
Since the iphone 4 was launched, the carrier with the iphone 4 has a 1000 postpaid subscriber advantage over the carrier without the iphone 4.
If they do announce a Verizon iPhone in january and not ship until summer, they will really freeze up smartphone sales at Verizon. This is not the the same market that the first iPhone was sold into. I don't think Verizon could afford this kind of delay.
Android is pretty close to iOS these days. Some people will delay buying a smartphone and wait, but I don't believe the majority will. Verizon's smartphone business will not freeze up.
Nice childish rants both of you, but consider too that some of us are shareholders in Apple and, yeah, we want to see an Apple win in the iOS v. Android competition.
Most of you are NOT. Meaning, his post is correct and DOES apply, to MOST people reading this.
Android doomed??? You are out of your mind. It is the fastest growing OS here in the US, they will get past this lawsuit and continue to grow at record passes.
Its not the fastest growing anything. You have to tie together a largely fragmented OS, from dozens of different versions, until you decide what a hypothetical Android OS actually is, then you make up the numbers based on everything with the Android trademark.
Its completely ridiculous and doesn't lend any credence to a growth argument. I'd be more than happy to entertain a discussion on how Android is doing vs. iOS. Unfortunately it can't happen, because iOS actually exists (as one identifiable thing) and "Android OS" does not. Its multiple things. On way too many phones, at way too many price points to establish any consistency.
Its a joke, in other words.
Show me ONE phone running Android that costs $199 and tell me how that does compared to the iPhone. Other than that, I don't care, and really shouldn't.
Gee, AT&T gets to flaunt all these other smartphones while Apple's hands are tied until 2011. Seems to me, AT&T's behavior must void some part of the exclusivity agreement. I agree though, AT&T will be fine, considering how many iPhone users are under contract for a year or two more. The most important thing is competition in the smartphone (all of them) service plan market. iPhone have paid a premium for service because, unless you went to a non-Apple handset, you only had one choice. With more choices of carrier, hopefully competition will put some pressure on these high rate plans and data plans.
I just got a mailer in from AT&T offering all sorts of new crap phones. They have never written to me before, since I had an iPhone. That seems to be abusing their mail list of iPhone users .. as you say you'd think it would be a breach of their agreement,
once again, they're scrambling to hold on to the customers they already have, rather than fix the real problem?their infrastructure. if they had put some of their profits back into their company, they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
what a bunch of dinosaurs.
Android doomed??? You are out of your mind. It is the fastest growing OS here in the US, they will get past this lawsuit and continue to grow at record passes.
But Google will suck the mobile ad life out of Android, release a full mobile version of ChromeOS and retire Android from active support. Android was a stop-gap convenience to keep Apple from dominating mobile ad revenue with the App Store and iAds and let Google establish their mobile ad market - nothing more. Understand?
Again - this is Business 101. For all the Google cheerleading for "FREEDOM" and "OPEN" - it was emotional fodder for the clueless and naif fandroid supporters, who will be severely disillusioned when Google drops the drained husk of the Android community and eyes the customer base they will build on ChromeOS.
Hope Apple will sell the iPhone factory unlocked after the exclusivity expires.