It's so tiresome to read that nonsense that Mac's can't cut it in the enterprise. Just like saying that enterprise demand RIM and Windows Mobile phones for "real" enterprise email, etc. Those days are over.
Apple laptops, iPhones and iPads are making it into the enterprise on a large scale since demand for Apple is driven top down and even by IT departments.
Heck, most of the system and network admins I know only use MB's/MBP's. Not just Linux and Cisco guys, but people administering 200 Dell servers using a Mac
It is not nonsense it is the truth. In global companies such as the one I work at they have mac pilot schemes and the people on them have to have a windows desktop too just so they can access some critical applications. Either that or they have to use VMware. parallels or bootcamp etc. which kind of defeats the object of having the mac in the first place. Even version of Office for mac most mac users are still using is utter crap at integrating into a corporate environment. It remains to be seen if office 2011 will be any better.
iPhones and iPads are toys in the enterprise, nothing more. They do email in a pretty way. They barely contribute anything else
It is not nonsense it is the truth. In global companies such as the one I work at they have mac pilot schemes and the people on them have to have a windows desktop too just so they can access some critical applications. Either that or they have to use VMware. parallels or bootcamp etc. which kind of defeats the object of having the mac in the first place. Even version of Office for mac most mac users are still using is utter crap at integrating into a corporate environment. It remains to be seen if office 2011 will be any better.
iPhones and iPads are toys in the enterprise, nothing more. They do email in a pretty way. They barely contribute anything else
I disagree. IT is starting to like Mac with VMWare for Windows, they get more control and can trivially do VM resets with simple file operations, not long ghosting sessions. The tool becomes what it needs to be rather than what ever happens to be available on the platform. This will only accelerate as thin-apping licensed software to run on VMs becomes more widespread.
You really need to be more aware of the cutting edge before you make sweeping statements about toys, because the VM is being seen as a way to transition away from broken toy MS lock-in without losing legacy support. And even better since the legacy app support is in no way holding back the host OS evolution.
No, that's not true. You really don't get it, do you? There is HUGE demand for video on iOS. Nobody gives a shit whether or not it's in Flash, they just want to watch the video. And they don't want to lose 1/2 their battery life every time they watch a 5 minute clip either, which is prone to happen on a mobile device with Flash.
Read this post by the Skyfire CEO for some enlightenment:
I think that the number of downloads of an app which does nothing except allows Flash Videos to work is an indication of demand for Flash video.
You might arrive at the conclusion that it indicates an undifferentiated demand for video, bit given taht the app is specifically for Flash Video, and NOT for video in general, I'm not sure how your conclusion follows.
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Your way with logic gives me a chuckle.
Nicely put. I wouldn't say it makes me chuckle as much as sigh.
The lack of logical reasoning in Steve-J's argument makes it kind of pointless to continue with him. But your comment made me chuckle.
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There is also a #3, having to do with hardware acceleration and APIs.
Positing a limited number of choices, manufactured in one's imagination, and then picking one rarely gives a correct answer.
Also known as "Adobe can't get it together." which was choice #2.
If there is no box, I don't want to hear you argue that you're outside of it, Flash-boy.
Let us know when Adobe gets that moving picture and video thing sorted.
It's so tiresome to read that nonsense that Mac's can't cut it in the enterprise. Just like saying that enterprise demand RIM and Windows Mobile phones for "real" enterprise email, etc. Those days are over.
Apple laptops, iPhones and iPads are making it into the enterprise on a large scale since demand for Apple is driven top down and even by IT departments.
Heck, most of the system and network admins I know only use MB's/MBP's. Not just Linux and Cisco guys, but people administering 200 Dell servers using a Mac
It is not nonsense it is the truth. In global companies such as the one I work at they have mac pilot schemes and the people on them have to have a windows desktop too just so they can access some critical applications. Either that or they have to use VMware. parallels or bootcamp etc. which kind of defeats the object of having the mac in the first place. Even version of Office for mac most mac users are still using is utter crap at integrating into a corporate environment. It remains to be seen if office 2011 will be any better.
iPhones and iPads are toys in the enterprise, nothing more. They do email in a pretty way. They barely contribute anything else
It is not nonsense it is the truth. In global companies such as the one I work at they have mac pilot schemes and the people on them have to have a windows desktop too just so they can access some critical applications. Either that or they have to use VMware. parallels or bootcamp etc. which kind of defeats the object of having the mac in the first place. Even version of Office for mac most mac users are still using is utter crap at integrating into a corporate environment. It remains to be seen if office 2011 will be any better.
iPhones and iPads are toys in the enterprise, nothing more. They do email in a pretty way. They barely contribute anything else
I disagree. IT is starting to like Mac with VMWare for Windows, they get more control and can trivially do VM resets with simple file operations, not long ghosting sessions. The tool becomes what it needs to be rather than what ever happens to be available on the platform. This will only accelerate as thin-apping licensed software to run on VMs becomes more widespread.
You really need to be more aware of the cutting edge before you make sweeping statements about toys, because the VM is being seen as a way to transition away from broken toy MS lock-in without losing legacy support. And even better since the legacy app support is in no way holding back the host OS evolution.
and apple still think the iTwats don't want flash on their devices......
Just get Android or web OS or blackberry or symbian or windows phone 7. All will have flash soon!
Love how SOON is the operative term. So many alternatives to iOS offering the "Full Internet". Soon...
No, that's not true. You really don't get it, do you? There is HUGE demand for video on iOS. Nobody gives a shit whether or not it's in Flash, they just want to watch the video. And they don't want to lose 1/2 their battery life every time they watch a 5 minute clip either, which is prone to happen on a mobile device with Flash.
Read this post by the Skyfire CEO for some enlightenment:
http://www.skyfire.com/press/blog/60...hase-of-growth
I think that the number of downloads of an app which does nothing except allows Flash Videos to work is an indication of demand for Flash video.
You might arrive at the conclusion that it indicates an undifferentiated demand for video, bit given taht the app is specifically for Flash Video, and NOT for video in general, I'm not sure how your conclusion follows.
Your way with logic gives me a chuckle.
Nicely put. I wouldn't say it makes me chuckle as much as sigh.
The lack of logical reasoning in Steve-J's argument makes it kind of pointless to continue with him. But your comment made me chuckle.