***FLASH...Who bassist John Entwistle DEAD in Las Vegas!!!***

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Looks like Pino Palladino has been chosen to fill in for Entwistle on the current tour:



    <a href="http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=19&zone=diary"; target="_blank">http://www.petetownshend.co.uk/diary/display.cfm?id=19&zone=diary</a>;



    He's the guy who played bass on Paul Young's "Everytime You Go Away" and Don Henley's "Sunset Grill". I guess is signature sound is that swooping, fretless bass thing.



    Kinda curious to see what he's going to bring to The Who. Townshend says in the article above that he doesn't want Palladino to "emulate Entwistle", so that'll be interesting.
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  • Reply 22 of 30
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    [quote]Originally posted by pscates:

    <strong>Kinda curious to see what he's going to bring to The Who. Townshend says in the article above that he doesn't want Palladino to "emulate Entwistle", so that'll be interesting.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> Show must go on I guess. Entwistle and Moon gone. Sounds to me the heart of the band is truly gone. Now only the passion and mind are left...



    Their performance last year at the WTC/FDNY/NYPD concert was so powerful. I saw the original Who in '76 in DC. "Attack of the British Tour".



    Kind of sad hearing your rock idols passing away in your lifetime. But the songs live on...



    Heaven and Hell

    - John Entwistle



    On top of the sky is a place where you go,

    Â*If you've done, nothing wrong

    If you've done nothing wrong.



    And down in the ground is a place where you go

    Â*If you've been a bad boy

    If you've been a bad boy.



    Why can't we have eternal life

    And never die

    Never die.



    In the place up above, you grow feather wings,

    Â*And you fly, round and round

    With a harp singing hymns.



    And down in the ground you grow horns

    Â*And a tail, and you carry a fork

    And moan and wail.



    Why can't we have eternal life

    And never die

    Never die.



    On top of the sky is a place where you go

    Â*If you've done, nothing wrong

    If you've done nothing wrong



    And down in the ground is a place where you go,

    Â*If you've been a bad boy

    If you've been a bad boy.



    Why can't we have eternal life

    And never die

    Never die.
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  • Reply 23 of 30
    bryan furybryan fury Posts: 169member
    ..tragedy...



    Worst bit is they are still going to tour..



    can't believe that!



    Where did integrity go ? <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
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  • Reply 24 of 30
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    If Entwistle's family is okay with it, and if the logistics are all set into place, I think "going on with the show" shows quite a bit of integrity.



    If Entwistle's family didn't approve, or if Pete and Roger truly felt they couldn't go on, the tour would be cancelled.



    I'm sure each concert in this tour will have an emotional moment where something is said in Entwistle's memory.



    I think it would be kinda cool if they stuck one of those Buzzard basses he played on a stand in front of the amps and shone a lone spotlight on it throughout the entire show.







    But going out on a major tour like this involves quite a bit. It's not just Pete and Roger and Entwistle's family. There are crews, equipment, bookings are made, commitments, etc.



    I don't know. I can see both sides, I guess. It won't be the same, that's for sure. It's like INXS: they're touring now, with all the original five members and with a new singer. Now, I don't know about you guys, but I can't even IMAGINE INXS without Michael Hutchence.



    Now, to me, THAT tour seems a little cheesy and lacking in integrity.



    I guess if had been Pete or Roger that died on Thursday, things would be different. For all his stature and contributions to The Who (and they were enormous), I suppose most people see it as able to move on, just as long as Daltrey is at the mike and Townshend is the one to his left, playing guitar.



    I always think about that though: in bands, where is that magical "cut off" line where you go "okay, the band can survive without THIS guy, but if HE dies, it's over!"







    Actually, I did that with INXS. Had it been the keyboard guy or the sax guy, I would've thought "ah, they'll get another...". But when it was Hutchence that bought it, I thought "bummer...that's a good band. Too bad they're over...".



    Now they're touring again.



    <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    That's the thing, though, about modern pop/rock music. Does ANYONE truly give a rat's ass if on of the guitarists Matchbox Twenty croaks? Would anyone, besides the band and family, even KNOW? Or care?



    Lots of faceless, formula acts out there these days with very little personal stamp.



    If that dipshit lead singer for Sugar Ray slipped in the shower and bought the farm, I don't think there would be this huge clamoring for "Sugar Ray to carry on...". They're, at best, a lightweight, trendy pop act who, in all probability, have already made their mark and enjoyed their 15 minutes.



    What's REALLY going to crush me, as a musician and fan and all around admirer of the guy, is the day Keith Richards dies.







    Granted, he probably SHOULD have decades ago. But he'll outlive everyone, I'm sure.







    I'll personally fly to London and kick Mick's ass up and down the street if he even DARED to suggest that the Stones could somehow "carry on".



    When Keith goes, the Stones go. That's just how it's going to be.



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  • Reply 25 of 30
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    [quote]

    <strong>When Keith goes, the Stones go. That's just how it's going to be.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I agree.Also, though Keith is their heart and soul, the Stones have been mediocre (at best) ever since Mick Taylor left.



    [ 06-29-2002: Message edited by: glurx ]</p>
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  • Reply 26 of 30
    rick1138rick1138 Posts: 938member
    Uh Mick Taylor only played with them for about three or four years.
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  • Reply 27 of 30
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    Yep.
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  • Reply 28 of 30
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Mick Taylor barely registers on my radar.







    Actually, I'm a HUGE Ron Wood fan. I think he and Keith are a perfect team, even better than Keith and Brian Jones.



    I like the old, early moptop Stones stuff. But my absolute favorite era is the mid-late 70's and early 80's. "Some Girls" and "Tattoo You" kinda stuff.







    Ron Wood is a supremely talented and tasty guitarist! He makes up for Richards' jagged, ragged slurred sound.
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  • Reply 29 of 30
    mac+mac+ Posts: 580member
    This was sad news indeed. I only found this out while flicking through MusicMax the other day(cable music channel downunder) and was both shocked and saddened. I would have loved to have been able to see "The Who" - I don't even know if they ever toured Australia... but now, I guess the chance of this happening is pretty slim. RIP John.



    On a separate note, though, hearing that "The Who" are going to continue with their planned tour... well, I can understand and appreciate this.



    As pscates said,

    [quote]But going out on a major tour like this involves quite a bit. It's not just Pete and Roger and Entwistle's family. There are crews, equipment, bookings are made, commitments, etc.

    <hr></blockquote>



    I know I could get flamed for this, but I was (still am) a big fan of TOTO. When Jeff Porcaro (drummer) died, I - and probably everybody else who appreciated their music - thought that he would be irreplacable. Actually he was, nobody played as soulfully as Jeff on kit - the guy just had to pick up a set of drum sticks and it oozed groove. Anyway, the band had Simon Phillips join them for their planned tour in '92 and he's still with them to this day. Granted, he's no Jeff - but damn, the man can play and he has brought a whole new element to their sound and songwriting.



    ... but I digress.



    I guess my point is, the show does indeed go on. And, in some ways, it is a fitting tribute to John (and "The Who" fans) if the band can at least tour one more time and give the world a chance to fully appreciate his contribution as part of rock'n'roll history.



    Makes you appreciate the power of music all the more so, doesn't it. Truly the universal language.
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  • Reply 30 of 30
    hegorhegor Posts: 160member
    I can think The Who can carry on without Entwistle, but it will be a bit strange. I'm sure Who fans felt the same in the 70s when Moon died.



    As far as I'm concerned Pink Floyd should have died when Roger Waters left. But that would be my opinion.
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