the aTV remote is incredibly simple, but you MUST have your 100-button receiver remote in your other hand just to control volume.
Are there really people who have home theater setups who have all of their devices' remotes on-hand? $100 for a Harmony remote. Job done. All of my original remotes (including my Apple Remote) are tucked away.
Apple TV 1 is not an iOS devise and this is only available for iOS Apple TV 2. Consider your APple TV Version 1 at "end of life" for any feature updates. The OS between the two is completely different. It's like asking if the 4.2 iPhone update will update your Mac to the same features.
That makes sense, but it would be rather nice if news/rumor reports would differentiate. This one from AI said "AppleTV." I have one of those, so would expect the 4.1 update to be applicable to it. It didn't say a 4.1 update for the iOS one.
That said, can anyone verify they looked for a software update for the original AppleTV and there wasn't one available? I will check when I get home myself, but I'm rather curious.
Excuse me? My volume control is not on my TV, it's on my receiver. Not very Apple of them, to require users to use two separate remotes, when they could easily allow the AppleTV to control its own volume output.
If Apple gave you the opportunity to modulate the volume on the AppleTV, that introduces the problem that now two different devices in your audio stream would be affecting volume: the AppleTV first and then your receiver (or TV, or whatever controls your speakers) second. You would have to keep your receiver's output level at some fixed value and remember to modify only the AppleTV volume. But worse, when you are NOT using your AppleTV and you modify your receiver's output volume then come back to AppleTV, you would need to rediscover the appropriate setting for your receiver. In other words, you have only complicated the situation.
So, no. Making the AppleTV output a line level signal and letting the receiver handle the volume is the appropriate thing to do, IMO. If you want to have only one remote, you can do what so many others do: get a universal remote that knows how to speak "AppleTV" or is trainable to do such.
Excuse me? My volume control is not on my TV, it's on my receiver. Not very Apple of them, to require users to use two separate remotes, when they could easily allow the AppleTV to control its own volume output.
Whether it's on the TV or the receiver, why wouldn't that remote control the volume? Isn't the line level audio on HDMI, you know, line level?
I'm thinking someone should make a tiny thin remote that only does that and adheres to the back of the ATV remote.
I like the remote just wish it did the basics that everyone needs for every tv watching experience.
I know Jobs like imagine his products in a perfect vacuum, but in every other place you need to turn on the tv, change the input and change the volume up/down.
Not to quibble here, but it actually makes more sense to control the volume with your receiver, just as you would when playing a DVD or listening to the radio. Don't get me wrong: I would like the ability to control volume via Apple TV too (or at least an option to lower the volume by 5db since Apple TV's output is a little too loud for the HDMI input on my crap TV).
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my apple TV remote turns on all my macs and movies on them while i use it on my apple tv . my son was doing his home work on it.
i really dream of the 900 button google remote that control;s times square sized video screens
Apple TV can be set up to receive inputs from any unused mode on a universal remote, which would allow you to use a single remote to control Apple TV and the volume.
It would be very bad for the average person if they were able to adjust the volume of their cable box, games consoles, dvd/blu ray players and Apple TV independently. As long as all devices are outputting at the same volume, there should only be one volume control available, or else you will get dramatic volume shifts when switching inputs.
Jesus, this is ridiculous. There's NO reason for Apple not to give you the OPTION to change volume SOMEWHERE in the settings. It doesn't have to be a button on the remote, but how about a slider on the Remote app on the iPhone and iPad? How about a setting deep in the audio settings? There's just no reason to give NO control over the volume that the device is outputting. Stop apologizing for Apple's oversight.
Not to quibble here, but it actually makes more sense to control the volume with your receiver, just as you would when playing a DVD or listening to the radio. Don't get me wrong: I would like the ability to control volume via Apple TV too (or at least an option to lower the volume by 5db since Apple TV's output is a little too loud for the HDMI input on my crap TV).
Really? It makes more sense? So instead of moving my index finger 1 inch to change the volume, it makes more sense to get up, walk across the room and change it from the receiver's source? Because right now that's my only option because I don't have a remote for it. What makes more sense is to have an option.
Whether it's on the TV or the receiver, why wouldn't that remote control the volume? Isn't the line level audio on HDMI, you know, line level?
What am I missing here?
It would! But WHY do you think I should have to use two remotes to control the Apple TV? Is Apple that stupid that they can't figure out what every other CE maker has? How to allow their remote control to handle volume?
Jesus, this is ridiculous. There's NO reason for Apple not to give you the OPTION to change volume SOMEWHERE in the settings. It doesn't have to be a button on the remote, but how about a slider on the Remote app on the iPhone and iPad? How about a setting deep in the audio settings? There's just no reason to give NO control over the volume that the device is outputting. Stop apologizing for Apple's oversight.
I have no problems with a hidden setting (as I had already stated, if you had bothered to read the rest of the thread) to balance the volume between all your inputs, but providing a dedicated volume switch for every input device just makes for a very messy situation. Imagine every cable channel being output at a different volume. I don't want my ears to be blasted when I switch from cable to Apple TV because someone in my family messed with the volume of both.
Edit: For the record. I'm not apologizing for Apple's "oversight". I'd much rather have no volume control on Apple TV at all then have an easy to access on on the remote. Yes, a hidden setting would be best, but quite frankly I wouldn't touch it, since the volume it outputs at matches my other devices. I have a mac, PS3, wii, cable box, Apple TV, and a receiver connected to my TV. The mac remains at max volume at all times, and I don't even know if I can adjust the volume on the cable box/wii/PS3. If I can, it's a hidden setting that I've had no need to adjust. Individually controlling the volume of all those devices would only end blaring and silent transitions between different video modes. I would not want that at all.
It would! But WHY do you think I should have to use two remotes to control the Apple TV? Is Apple that stupid that they can't figure out what every other CE maker has? How to allow their remote control to handle volume?
So take it back and get a GoogleTV with the Starship Enterprise console (tm) remote instead.
Seriously, what else do you want added to the remote? Input selector to switch between various HDMI inputs? Changing channels? Controlling your satellite dish or cable box?
You guys are way overthinking this. The AppleTV remote is an IR remote, any "learning" remote -- all the way up to the Harmony Remotes and beyond -- could manage all your A/V functions including control of your AppleTV for those of you who can't juggle two remotes (including one very small one).
The original Apple TV v1 does do Airtunes (or Airplay as it's called now).
Yes, but Airtunes is audio-only. It's great being able to stream music from my laptop to my receiver via it, but it would seem that I'll never be able to push video content (although I'm not particularly bothered by it since my content is all on my Mac upstairs where I have a few TB of drive space, not on my 16gb phone).
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It would! But WHY do you think I should have to use two remotes to control the Apple TV? Is Apple that stupid that they can't figure out what every other CE maker has? How to allow their remote control to handle volume?
Okay, since this is clearly an issue for some people, here's another thought. The original AppleTV (and no doubt then the new generation) allows itself to be the reverse of a learning remote: instead of having your remote learn the codes from another remote, you can program the AppleTV to learn another remote so you can use that remote to control your AppleTV. Take your TV remote, find a couple of buttons that aren't used by the TV, and program your AppleTV to use those buttons. Now you've got your TV remote that you can use to control your volume, and your TV remote that can now control your AppleTV. Problem solved.
Really? It makes more sense? So instead of moving my index finger 1 inch to change the volume, it makes more sense to get up, walk across the room and change it from the receiver's source? Because right now that's my only option because I don't have a remote for it. What makes more sense is to have an option.
You should probably get a remote for your receiver.
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the aTV remote is incredibly simple, but you MUST have your 100-button receiver remote in your other hand just to control volume.
Are there really people who have home theater setups who have all of their devices' remotes on-hand? $100 for a Harmony remote. Job done. All of my original remotes (including my Apple Remote) are tucked away.
The Apple TV update is now here. Downloading it now!
installed, video streaming is working fine, from iPad and iPhone, MacBook Pro and Mac Pro via iTunes.
Apple TV 1 is not an iOS devise and this is only available for iOS Apple TV 2. Consider your APple TV Version 1 at "end of life" for any feature updates. The OS between the two is completely different. It's like asking if the 4.2 iPhone update will update your Mac to the same features.
That makes sense, but it would be rather nice if news/rumor reports would differentiate. This one from AI said "AppleTV." I have one of those, so would expect the 4.1 update to be applicable to it. It didn't say a 4.1 update for the iOS one.
That said, can anyone verify they looked for a software update for the original AppleTV and there wasn't one available? I will check when I get home myself, but I'm rather curious.
Excuse me? My volume control is not on my TV, it's on my receiver. Not very Apple of them, to require users to use two separate remotes, when they could easily allow the AppleTV to control its own volume output.
If Apple gave you the opportunity to modulate the volume on the AppleTV, that introduces the problem that now two different devices in your audio stream would be affecting volume: the AppleTV first and then your receiver (or TV, or whatever controls your speakers) second. You would have to keep your receiver's output level at some fixed value and remember to modify only the AppleTV volume. But worse, when you are NOT using your AppleTV and you modify your receiver's output volume then come back to AppleTV, you would need to rediscover the appropriate setting for your receiver. In other words, you have only complicated the situation.
So, no. Making the AppleTV output a line level signal and letting the receiver handle the volume is the appropriate thing to do, IMO. If you want to have only one remote, you can do what so many others do: get a universal remote that knows how to speak "AppleTV" or is trainable to do such.
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Excuse me? My volume control is not on my TV, it's on my receiver. Not very Apple of them, to require users to use two separate remotes, when they could easily allow the AppleTV to control its own volume output.
Whether it's on the TV or the receiver, why wouldn't that remote control the volume? Isn't the line level audio on HDMI, you know, line level?
What am I missing here?
I'm thinking someone should make a tiny thin remote that only does that and adheres to the back of the ATV remote.
I like the remote just wish it did the basics that everyone needs for every tv watching experience.
I know Jobs like imagine his products in a perfect vacuum, but in every other place you need to turn on the tv, change the input and change the volume up/down.
Not to quibble here, but it actually makes more sense to control the volume with your receiver, just as you would when playing a DVD or listening to the radio. Don't get me wrong: I would like the ability to control volume via Apple TV too (or at least an option to lower the volume by 5db since Apple TV's output is a little too loud for the HDMI input on my crap TV).
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my apple TV remote turns on all my macs and movies on them while i use it on my apple tv . my son was doing his home work on it.
i really dream of the 900 button google remote that control;s times square sized video screens
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I hope this fixes video streaming since I'm running the GM1 on my iPad and have yet to be able to stream the video portion, only the audio so far.
Yes. I checked my AppleTV and it was auto-updating.
After that I was able to send video (U2 btw) from both my iPad and my MacbookPro.
Prior to the update, it was audio only.
Apple TV can be set up to receive inputs from any unused mode on a universal remote, which would allow you to use a single remote to control Apple TV and the volume.
It would be very bad for the average person if they were able to adjust the volume of their cable box, games consoles, dvd/blu ray players and Apple TV independently. As long as all devices are outputting at the same volume, there should only be one volume control available, or else you will get dramatic volume shifts when switching inputs.
Jesus, this is ridiculous. There's NO reason for Apple not to give you the OPTION to change volume SOMEWHERE in the settings. It doesn't have to be a button on the remote, but how about a slider on the Remote app on the iPhone and iPad? How about a setting deep in the audio settings? There's just no reason to give NO control over the volume that the device is outputting. Stop apologizing for Apple's oversight.
There is no reason they couldn't -- An AppleTV is pretty much the same as a current iDevice.
Maybe they'll offer a feature like the Zune where you can ejaculate A/V to your friends iDevices.
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iJaculate? Lol!
Not to quibble here, but it actually makes more sense to control the volume with your receiver, just as you would when playing a DVD or listening to the radio. Don't get me wrong: I would like the ability to control volume via Apple TV too (or at least an option to lower the volume by 5db since Apple TV's output is a little too loud for the HDMI input on my crap TV).
Really? It makes more sense? So instead of moving my index finger 1 inch to change the volume, it makes more sense to get up, walk across the room and change it from the receiver's source? Because right now that's my only option because I don't have a remote for it. What makes more sense is to have an option.
Did you watch the video?
The video, the video.... let's see, the video....
Whether it's on the TV or the receiver, why wouldn't that remote control the volume? Isn't the line level audio on HDMI, you know, line level?
What am I missing here?
It would! But WHY do you think I should have to use two remotes to control the Apple TV? Is Apple that stupid that they can't figure out what every other CE maker has? How to allow their remote control to handle volume?
Jesus, this is ridiculous. There's NO reason for Apple not to give you the OPTION to change volume SOMEWHERE in the settings. It doesn't have to be a button on the remote, but how about a slider on the Remote app on the iPhone and iPad? How about a setting deep in the audio settings? There's just no reason to give NO control over the volume that the device is outputting. Stop apologizing for Apple's oversight.
I have no problems with a hidden setting (as I had already stated, if you had bothered to read the rest of the thread) to balance the volume between all your inputs, but providing a dedicated volume switch for every input device just makes for a very messy situation. Imagine every cable channel being output at a different volume. I don't want my ears to be blasted when I switch from cable to Apple TV because someone in my family messed with the volume of both.
Edit: For the record. I'm not apologizing for Apple's "oversight". I'd much rather have no volume control on Apple TV at all then have an easy to access on on the remote. Yes, a hidden setting would be best, but quite frankly I wouldn't touch it, since the volume it outputs at matches my other devices. I have a mac, PS3, wii, cable box, Apple TV, and a receiver connected to my TV. The mac remains at max volume at all times, and I don't even know if I can adjust the volume on the cable box/wii/PS3. If I can, it's a hidden setting that I've had no need to adjust. Individually controlling the volume of all those devices would only end blaring and silent transitions between different video modes. I would not want that at all.
It would! But WHY do you think I should have to use two remotes to control the Apple TV? Is Apple that stupid that they can't figure out what every other CE maker has? How to allow their remote control to handle volume?
So take it back and get a GoogleTV with the Starship Enterprise console (tm) remote instead.
Seriously, what else do you want added to the remote? Input selector to switch between various HDMI inputs? Changing channels? Controlling your satellite dish or cable box?
You guys are way overthinking this. The AppleTV remote is an IR remote, any "learning" remote -- all the way up to the Harmony Remotes and beyond -- could manage all your A/V functions including control of your AppleTV for those of you who can't juggle two remotes (including one very small one).
Can I Airplay video taken on the iPhone right to the Apple TV?
Read somewhere that does not work but Airplaying photos and music does?
Does not make sense if you can't do this.
The original Apple TV v1 does do Airtunes (or Airplay as it's called now).
Yes, but Airtunes is audio-only. It's great being able to stream music from my laptop to my receiver via it, but it would seem that I'll never be able to push video content (although I'm not particularly bothered by it since my content is all on my Mac upstairs where I have a few TB of drive space, not on my 16gb phone).
It would! But WHY do you think I should have to use two remotes to control the Apple TV? Is Apple that stupid that they can't figure out what every other CE maker has? How to allow their remote control to handle volume?
Okay, since this is clearly an issue for some people, here's another thought. The original AppleTV (and no doubt then the new generation) allows itself to be the reverse of a learning remote: instead of having your remote learn the codes from another remote, you can program the AppleTV to learn another remote so you can use that remote to control your AppleTV. Take your TV remote, find a couple of buttons that aren't used by the TV, and program your AppleTV to use those buttons. Now you've got your TV remote that you can use to control your volume, and your TV remote that can now control your AppleTV. Problem solved.
Really? It makes more sense? So instead of moving my index finger 1 inch to change the volume, it makes more sense to get up, walk across the room and change it from the receiver's source? Because right now that's my only option because I don't have a remote for it. What makes more sense is to have an option.
You should probably get a remote for your receiver.
Is that even possible for them to add to their app?