Is the world doomed?

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
The O-zone layer is in peril.

Everybody seems to want to launch a nuke at somebody.

People are prepared not just to die for what they believe but to kill for it.

Diseases are becoming resistant to treatment.



Are we all doomed or have I been listening to too much Barry Manilow?



What can we do to save ourselves? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    stroszekstroszek Posts: 801member
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    <strong>What can we do to save ourselves? :confused:

    The O-zone layer is in peril.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>

    We can lay off of carbon dioxide emissions and invest money on cleaner fuel sources.



    [quote]<strong>Everybody seems to want to launch a nuke at somebody.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    We can hope that Mutually Assured Distruction is still enough of a deterant.



    [quote]<strong>People are prepared not just to die for what they believe but to kill for it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Don't know about this one, but things have been this way for centuries, adn we've managed to make it though.



    [quote]<strong>Diseases are becoming resistant to treatment.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Find a way to get doctors to not prescribe antibiotics when they aren't necessary. And get this message out to third-world countries. I read an article on MSNBC a while back talking about the penicillian use in China. It was quite ridiculous. I'll try to find a link.



    I doubt we're doomed. We may be down, but not out.



    (ps. lay off the barry manilow )
  • Reply 2 of 23
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    [quote]Originally posted by Stroszek:

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    Find a way to get doctors to not prescribe antibiotics when they aren't necessary. And get this message out to third-world countries. I read an article on MSNBC a while back talking about the penicillian use in China. It was quite ridiculous. I'll try to find a link.



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    We could also use less antibacterial products as these help to build up germs resistance.
  • Reply 3 of 23
    rodukroduk Posts: 706member
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    <strong>The O-zone layer is in peril.



    :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes, and most civilised nations have signed the Kyoto treaty on climate change, except of course for the USA. It seems the future of the Earth is very much in American hands...... :eek:
  • Reply 4 of 23
    1bgmnk1bgmnk Posts: 26member
    &lt;quote&gt;Are we all doomed or have I been listening to too much Barry Manilow?&lt;/quote&gt;





    yes, and yes



    any barry manilow is too much.



    [ 07-01-2002: Message edited by: 1bgmnk ]</p>
  • Reply 5 of 23
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    [quote]Originally posted by RodUK:

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    Yes, and most civilised nations have signed the Kyoto treaty on climate change, except of course for the USA. It seems the future of the Earth is very much in American hands...... :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    It is true to say that America could do more about emissions control. Perhaps by reinvesting in cleaner fuels. If the rest of the world backs, rather than pushes the USA then they will hopefully be able to drastically reduce emissions.
  • Reply 5 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    The O-zone layer is in peril.

    Everybody seems to want to launch a nuke at somebody.

    People are prepared not just to die for what they believe but to kill for it.

    Diseases are becoming resistant to treatment.



    Are we all doomed or have I been listening to too much Barry Manilow?



    What can we do to save ourselves? :confused: <hr></blockquote>



    Barry rocks, and yes, we are doomed.



    If we don't do ourselves in, evolution will, or a really, really big rock will hit all of us on the head. It sounds a bit fatalistic, but when in the history of mankind did it ever look like we would be headed for Utopia? All we can hope for is to do the best that we can, and hope we survive until the next episode of "Who Wants to Die a Millionaire?"



    Now-- relax, smile and go listen to Bobby McFerrin instead.
  • Reply 7 of 23
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    It is true we may never find a Utopia, but if the alternative is some kind of hell on Earth then maybe we should just keep looking and don't look back.
  • Reply 8 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by RodUK:



    Yes, and most civilised nations have signed the Kyoto treaty on climate change, except of course for the USA. It seems the future of the Earth is very much in American hands...... :eek: <hr></blockquote>



    Oh, please.



    I would have preferred that the U.S. would sign Kyoto, but let's be realistic as well. Sure, the U.S. as a country spits out a lot of greenhouse gases, but let's consider Europe as a whole. Let's ignore Scandanavia for a moment, as that's like taking about the Yukon Territory or Alaska without that pipe thing.



    As a region, is Europe that much better than the U.S.? What happens when Germany gets rid of all of its nuclear plants? What about Russia? What about the cars in France? They belch out as much smog as car-becues in my run down neighborhood back in Detroit.



    We can always point fingers at others. But first, do something (and signing a piece of paper doesn't count). Germany has a decent environment record, but Iceland is the only country <a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&ncid=753&e=1&u=/nm/20020530/sc_nm/autos_environment_iceland_dc_2"; target="_blank">wacky enough to try something new,</a> but maybe because they're one of the few countries that can.



    I'm not really trying to defend the U.S., but I'd also like to have a little perspective.
  • Reply 9 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    It is true we may never find a Utopia, but if the alternative is some kind of hell on Earth then maybe we should just keep looking and don't look back.<hr></blockquote>



    I'm an idealistic person. I would like to believe in the Star Trek future. I try to work for such a future, but I'm not perfect, and neither are my neighbors. It doesn't give one much hope.



    You begin saving the world by saving one person at a time; all else is grandiose romanticism or politics.

    Charles Bukowski
  • Reply 10 of 23
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by GardenOfEarthlyDelights:

    [QB]



    Oh, please.



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    Innovation should be encouraged amongst countries to help them encourage, rather than push each other into being more environmentally active.
  • Reply 11 of 23
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by GardenOfEarthlyDelights:

    [QB]



    If we all look out for our neighbours then we may be able to save each other and, overall, the world.
  • Reply 12 of 23
    stroszekstroszek Posts: 801member
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    <strong>



    We could also use less antibacterial products as these help to build up germs resistance.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Very true. The sad thing is, it's getting hard to go to the store and find soap that isn't pumped full of antibacterial stuff (for lack of better word). We survived for millenia with bacteria and virii on our hands, why are we freaking out about it now?



    On the greenhouse gas issue: I don't understand why environmental groups aren't juming on the current political situation in the US to promote alternative fuels. Sure, Bush is an oil man, but I doubt that even he thinks that we can survive on just American oil. Play the "being dependant on Middle Eastern countries" card, and we may just be able to convince politicians that there are indeed other fuel sources that a foreign country cannot hold over our heads.
  • Reply 13 of 23
    digixdigix Posts: 109member
    Hmmm...



    If we believe that we can eliminate or thinned to a critical state of this planet's ozone layer, how arrogant are we to believe we that we capable of doing that. There's no way our so called ?method of destruction? can be compare to this planet's ability to heal itself.



    But then again, we always have a superiority complex, not exactly a bad thing in some cases though.



    - As for our current day nuclear weapons -



    They're nothing more than an oversized and overglorifed arrow. Well... An arrow that is capable of eliminating a city that is.



    - As for preparing to die for what we believe on -



    Well... It's like taking a surgery in order to heal ourself. Let say that our leg is injured and the injury could killed us, and we need somekind of surgery in order to save our life though it also had a good chance of killing us in the process, but we believe that the surgery will save our life.



    Well.. What's wrong with that? Nothing wrong!



    Now... The problem is that... Sometimes, some people misinform us, ?they? sometimes misinform us with the wrong ?treatment? (if one can still call it a treatment). So... Instead of making us better, the ?treatment? injured us or even killed us.



    - As for killing -



    Hmmm... We kill living things (both animal and plants) in order to eat, and if there's a guy that try to kill us, we probably react in a self defense to disable the guy (and perharps even accidentally kill the guy)

    .

    Many believe systems do allow killing for food, and also killing or to be more exact go to war for self defense, ana also in some cases to kill a murderer (done by the victim's relative) so that both the murderer and the victim's relative won't go life in a terrible situation (though redemption and forgiveness are also recommended, so, if a murder don't have to be kill if he seek redemption and the victim's relative forgive him).



    What many believe systems don't allow is... murder. Killing is allowed (under certain circumstances), but murder is not.



    Kill = ?To put to death.?



    Murder = ?The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.?



    Redemption = ?The act of redeeming or the condition of having been redeemed.?



    Redeem = ?To make up for.?



    And may I remind you that... it's no difference if one either murder one person or the whole humanity, no difference at all.



    So if someone keep on shouting numbers like 6 billions (around the current total of the world population) people are murdered, 6 millions people are murdered, 6 thousands people are murdered, and so on. You need to becareful on what he said. Is he really sincere in reporting? Or he intended to caused conflicts among people?



    ?Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.? Relevation 13:18



    But while a murder no matter how much people are murdered is no good. Saving someone's life is no small thing though. Can a murder can be still called a murderer if he saves someone's life in his attempt of redeemption?



    - As for dieaseas becoming resistant to treatment -



    That's what happen if you treat a diseases and stop midway. In the past, it isn't much a big thing, the disease usually died along with its victim, but now... it survived along with the victim. Instead of a community with healthy people who survived the disease and dead people who died due the disease, you got a suffering community with the disease.



    - Are we doomed? -



    If you think now is worse.Came back a few more centuries or even a few thousand later. One day, our descendants might wake up in a world where they would be supervised/shepherded by a group of people with high technology and use high tech equipements, where these high tech group of people will grouped themself under the symbol of the hexagram.



    <a href="http://www.co.riverside.ca.us/sheriff/graphics/badge.htm"; target="_blank">http://www.co.riverside.ca.us/sheriff/graphics/badge.htm</a>;



    It would be utopia, but it's the utopia of the people with the hexagram symbol. I doubt that many people today (and also in the future) will want that kind of utopia, they know if they gonna allowed to enter that kind utopia, they have to pay a heavy price for it.
  • Reply 14 of 23
    thuh freakthuh freak Posts: 2,664member
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    <strong>Are we all doomed or have I been listening to too much Barry Manilow?



    What can we do to save ourselves? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    we are all going to die. unfortunately for us, we're the only animals that realize it. whether or not we fix the hundred and thousands of live-threatening problems doesn't really matter, cuz millions of more problems will fill the void. all we can do is smoke lots of pot. perhaps i'm just being a realist.
  • Reply 15 of 23
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    Considering that one day the Sun will completely engulf the Earth, yes, I'd say the world is doomed....just not in the immediate future.
  • Reply 16 of 23
    rodukroduk Posts: 706member
    [quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:

    <strong>Considering that one day the Sun will completely engulf the Earth, yes, I'd say the world is doomed....just not in the immediate future.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hopefully by then mankind will have populated other planets in other solar systems, so the Earth may be doomed, but we as human beings are not!
  • Reply 17 of 23
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Before the Earth in engulfed by our sun (that will become a red giant in several billion years) the chances are very good that the earth will be hit by a huge asteroid before then thereby wiping out life on earth as we know it.
  • Reply 18 of 23
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    We will all die.



    Therefore yes, the world is doomed.





    (woooah, dude, that's way existential)
  • Reply 19 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>Before the Earth in engulfed by our sun (that will become a red giant in several billion years) the chances are very good that the earth will be hit by a huge asteroid before then thereby wiping out life on earth as we know it.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    "Satellite Pictures Show Huge Eruption on Sun"







    "A massive solar eruption, more than 30 times the length of Earth's diameter, blasted away from the Sun on July 1, 2002, and was captured in a picture taken by the SOHO satellite. The a fiery-looking 'leg' in the lower-left corner of the image is what astronomers call an eruptive prominence, a loop of magnetic fields that trap hot gas inside. If eruptions like these are aimed at Earth, they can disturb Earth's magnetosphere, but this one was not directed at our planet, a spokesman for SOHO said. (NASA/Reuters)"



    <a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=585&ncid=753&e=6&u=/nm/20020701/sc_nm/space_sun_dc_1"; target="_blank">More...</a>



    Make the best of every day...could be your last.
  • Reply 20 of 23
    patchoulipatchouli Posts: 402member
    Check out this article from a 20/20 episode that aired a couple of weeks back. It touches on fanatics ranting over the Earth's supposed doom and gloom current state. However, 20/20 points out that other (more accurate) reports claim that the Earth is currently in the best shape that it has been in years (air, pollution, water, land mass, and so on thanks to efforts made to make 'all things Earth' better).



    <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/2020/stossel_tamperingwnature020614.html"; target="_blank">"A Lot of Hot Air?" 20/20</a>



    Also, the US is a very large player in this pseudo 'save the earth' campaign. I find it hilarious how so many countries around the world blame the US for everything. That in itself is very telling.



    As for the sick maggots that kill and will die in the name of 'god', well - they need to be exterminated so the rest of the world can continue on without such nonsense to deal with. If you want to prove something to your 'god', by all means strap a bomb to yourself and set it off, just do it alone.



    [ 07-02-2002: Message edited by: Patchouli ]</p>
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