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Saw the other thread, but thought its topic was really a tangent...



Best movie I've seen in a long time. What I really liked was how there really wasn't a paradox in the entire movie. You couldn't nitpick it because what the Pre-Cogs saw were basically just predictions and not necessarily the future.



[ 07-02-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 42
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Saw it Sunday night with the GF, very cool movie. I was very pleased.
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  • Reply 2 of 42
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Good movie but Tom Cruise is still an idiot.
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  • Reply 3 of 42
    thttht Posts: 6,018member
    I thought that whenever the pre-cogs saw a murder, the names of the killer and victim are inscribed on balls. This process was automatic as well? Maybe this murder was before the system with the balls though. So, it should have been impossible to fake the system out because each and every murder should have come with names.



    Adding to my Vulcanesque robotic personality...
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  • Reply 4 of 42
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    being a one-time-rabid fan of Phillip K Dick . . I found the movie took his usually complex layered and profoundly meaningful twists and turns and flattened them out to fit them into the usual Hollywood plot . . . but it was fun, and sure looked great. (but alas, I must admit, that is one story I have not read)



    Blade Runner is wholey another story though . . .great profound movie.
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  • Reply 5 of 42
    g4dudeg4dude Posts: 1,016member
    I thought it was great! I loved all the advertising. It made the whole thing seem real. My only problem is how did his wife get the eyeball??? Damn plot holes.
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  • Reply 6 of 42
    Awesome movie apart from a couple of continuity inconsistencies (artistic license?). For once, the (excellent) animation and f/x were a complemented the plot, in contrast to the recent Star Wars AOTC.
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  • Reply 7 of 42
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    [quote]Originally posted by G4Dude:

    <strong>I thought it was great! I loved all the advertising. It made the whole thing seem real. My only problem is how did his wife get the eyeball??? Damn plot holes.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    oh c'mon, there are bigger things to bitch about. just assume he left it in the house when he got caught...
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  • Reply 8 of 42
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    I'd like to see the movie, but unless Tom Cruise gets beaten up badly or preferrably killed in the movie I can't see it. He is the worst actor on the planet and I would love to see someone knock that smarmy insincere smile off his face. He sucks...................
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  • Reply 9 of 42
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by THT:

    <strong>I thought that whenever the pre-cogs saw a murder, the names of the killer and victim are inscribed on balls. This process was automatic as well? Maybe this murder was before the system with the balls though. So, it should have been impossible to fake the system out because each and every murder should have come with names.



    Adding to my Vulcanesque robotic personality...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    This is where the scene where the Pre-Cog echo comes into play. In one scene, they were shaking around having an echo, and the operator 'reset' them, or erased the echo from their short-term memory at least.



    Also, it was probably a verification error as well. Only Agatha had the vision of the second murder attempt and the twins did not pick up on it. No verification, no red balls.



    The only real hole I can think of is how Anderton and Leo Crow come together. They only come together because Cruise saw what the Pre-Cogs saw. So it seems unlikely Burgess could have arranged the entire thing. "Okay, you just sit in this apartment for a while with these pictures on your bed. Everything will fall into place!"

    ...unless he was going to lead Anderton to Crow with clues.
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  • Reply 10 of 42
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by G4Dude:

    <strong>I thought it was great! I loved all the advertising. It made the whole thing seem real. My only problem is how did his wife get the eyeball??? Damn plot holes.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'm assuming he passed it off to her when he was about to be captured, when they were embracing. I would also assume it's possible Agatha told him to do so beforehand, just like she was telling him to do all sorts of things when they were escaping from the mall.



    [quote]Originally posted by Samantha Joanne Ollendale:

    <strong>Awesome movie apart from a couple of continuity inconsistencies (artistic license?). For once, the (excellent) animation and f/x were a complemented the plot, in contrast to the recent Star Wars AOTC.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Which continuity inconsistencies?



    [ 07-02-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
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  • Reply 11 of 42
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    [quote]Originally posted by pfflam:

    <strong>being a one-time-rabid fan of Phillip K Dick . . I found the movie took his usually complex layered and profoundly meaningful twists and turns and flattened them out to fit them into the usual Hollywood plot . . . but it was fun, and sure looked great. (but alas, I must admit, that is one story I have not read)



    Blade Runner is wholey another story though . . .great profound movie.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    I Agree.
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  • Reply 12 of 42
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    Good movie, but two complaints

    1. the murder Tom Cruise was supposed to commit should have been a red ball as it was in no way pre meditated.

    2. The "everything wrapped to with a nice big pretty ribbon ending" was a little annoying, but I guess that's Speilberg for you. I thought they should have ended it on the pull up shot of the guy after he shot himself
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  • Reply 13 of 42
    anamacanamac Posts: 80member
    It can be a drag when a movie that looks good is held back by having to say "But, Tom Cruise is in it!". I'll see it anyway, but I'm curious about the other anti-TC posters here: who would you have cast in this role?



    The bigger drag is that the folks on this forum living in Switzerland have to wait until October 2 for the release there.
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  • Reply 14 of 42
    tooltool Posts: 242member
    I saw it the day after it's release and loved it. Very good movie. I'm gonna have to check out some of that guy's books.
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  • Reply 15 of 42
    thttht Posts: 6,018member
    <strong>Originally posted by Eugene:

    This is where the scene where the Pre-Cog echo comes into play. In one scene, they were shaking around having an echo, and the operator 'reset' them, or erased the echo from their short-term memory at least.



    Also, it was probably a verification error as well. Only Agatha had the vision of the second murder attempt and the twins did not pick up on it. No verification, no red balls.</strong>



    I don't necessarily buy this. The idea is that the precogs see all murders (within a certain radius). For each murder there is a ball that is dropped. Not to mention that the precogs should have seen both premeditated murders about 3 or 4 days in advance. The precog babysitter could "reset" them before the balls are dropped I suppose.



    <strong>The only real hole I can think of is how Anderton and Leo Crow come together. They only come together because Cruise saw what the Pre-Cogs saw. So it seems unlikely Burgess could have arranged the entire thing. "Okay, you just sit in this apartment for a while with these pictures on your bed. Everything will fall into place!"

    ...unless he was going to lead Anderton to Crow with clues.</strong>



    I was fine with this. The precogs only see the event. It doesn't matter what it took to get to there.



    We probably don't want to get into details too much because everything will fall apart.
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  • Reply 16 of 42
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    [quote]Originally posted by TOOL:

    <strong>I saw it the day after it's release and loved it. Very good movie. I'm gonna have to check out some of that guy's books.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Tool Rules!
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  • Reply 17 of 42
    kwondokwondo Posts: 217member
    I agree with Outsider but did put it aside to see the film. It did hold me most of the way but did not like the ending at all..just too sugar coated ending. I would have preferred if Anderton had killed one (or all three even) before doing the final deed onto himself and that would ultimately be the reason why the PRECRIME wouldn't continue.



    Just thought it cheesy seeing all three pre-cogs in a martha vinyard-ish cottage reading books (could they be reading "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheeps?") <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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  • Reply 18 of 42
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    [quote]Originally posted by kwondo:

    <strong>I agree with Outsider but did put it aside to see the film. It did hold me most of the way but did not like the ending at all..just too sugar coated ending. I would have preferred if Anderton had killed one (or all three even) before doing the final deed onto himself and that would ultimately be the reason why the PRECRIME wouldn't continue.



    Just thought it cheesy seeing all three pre-cogs in a martha vinyard-ish cottage reading books (could they be reading "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheeps?") <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    they have to be separated from everyone if they want to live w/out their dreams. thats why theyre set aside in the middle of nowhere. the only murders they might see are dead cows or sheep or deer or somethin...

    its their version of an attempt at "ordinary" existence...
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  • Reply 19 of 42
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    [quote]Originally posted by THT:

    <strong>

    I don't necessarily buy this. The idea is that the precogs see all murders (within a certain radius). For each murder there is a ball that is dropped. Not to mention that the precogs should have seen both premeditated murders about 3 or 4 days in advance. The precog babysitter could "reset" them before the balls are dropped I suppose.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>





    thats exactly what happens. the Techs are trained to reset the system anytime the precogs have an echo. that way, none of the balls go through w/ the process.
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  • Reply 20 of 42
    kwondokwondo Posts: 217member
    I agree with Outsider but did put it aside to see the film. It did hold me most of the way but did not like the ending at all..just too sugar coated ending. I would have preferred if Anderton had killed one (or all three even) before doing the final deed onto himself and that would ultimately be the reason why the PRECRIME wouldn't continue.



    Just thought it cheesy seeing all three pre-cogs in a martha vinyard-ish cottage reading books (could they be reading "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheeps?") <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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