Violance against Woman

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
An ugly example of how vile this human race can be. We have so far to go...



<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/07/05/pakistan.rape.ap/index.html"; target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/07/05/pakistan.rape.ap/index.html</a>;





sorry about the typo in the title!



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  • Reply 1 of 26
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> Yes, that is brutal and extreme to say the least.

    Another major concern in todays world is this kind of violence against not only women but very young girls, its not light reading...



    <a href="http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/femgen/fgm1.htm"; target="_blank">http://www.amnesty.org/ailib/intcam/femgen/fgm1.htm</a>;
  • Reply 2 of 26
    Yes, we must push for greater human rights all over the globe, including here in the US. There are far too many cases of woman in this world being treated like dirt with little or no recourse.



    Yet another all too familiar example from closer to (my) home:



    <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/07/04/mexico.military.reut/index.html"; target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/americas/07/04/mexico.military.reut/index.html</a>;
  • Reply 3 of 26
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Unfortunately we will always have that ape-headed man who thinks just because he is stronger than someone else, he can take advantage of them. Part of the appeal of sex (to me at least) is that you give pleasure to someone else, besides yourself. Forcing sex on someone is the lowest low.
  • Reply 4 of 26
    Well said outsider. Unfortunately, I think it goes beyond the apeman mentality. In many cases, it is an absolute failure to recognize a woman as a human being.
  • Reply 5 of 26
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    It's tantamount to genocide.



  • Reply 6 of 26
    "It's tantamount to genocide."



    Could not have said it better myself.
  • Reply 7 of 26
    spindlerspindler Posts: 713member
    Nietzche was right kids. Human beings suck.



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  • Reply 8 of 26
    mimacmimac Posts: 872member
    [quote]Originally posted by Xidius:

    <strong>That is horible!!!



    Ahhhhh! stay away!

    *hides from all the AI guys..*



    - Xidius</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Sorry Xidius, should have put a better warning on that link
  • Reply 9 of 26
    rick1138rick1138 Posts: 938member
    I think rapists are the lowest scum.After I got divorced someone broke into my ex-wife's apartment and raped her at knifepoint.
  • Reply 10 of 26
    digixdigix Posts: 109member
    Hmmm... Human rights? I wouldn't put so much trust in these so called... ?human rights?, since the functions of human rights seems to be always used to opressed others.



    ?

    Our right lies in force. The word "right" is an abstract thought and proved by nothing. The word means no more than: Give me what I want in order that thereby I may have a proof that I am stronger than you.



    Where does right begin? Where does it end?



    In any State in which there is a bad organization of authority, an impersonality of laws and of the rulers who have lost their personality amid the flood of rights ever multiplying out of liberalism, I find a new right - to attack by the right of the strong, and to scatter to the winds all existing forces of order and regulation, to reconstruct all institutions and to become the sovereign lord of those who have left to us the rights of their power by laying them down voluntarily in their liberalism.

    ?



    /-/



    As for the so called violence against women.



    Yes. Unfortunately, these are events that are common worldwide.



    For example, I know a person in a forum that said it's okay for a man to strike (slap in the face actually) a woman because she refused to help him (because he broke her heart, he leaved her for another woman, he didn't even comfort her, saying that she's ?nithing?), that person in a forum said it it's okay for him to slap her, because she's a ?selfish? bitch (for not helping in a war).



    Then there's another case. When some persons in a forum are bad mouthing a woman, I get quite upset and was very mad at them, and I screamed out unnice words to them (calling them stupid and idiot). Not exactly a good thing, but their attitudes just made me mad.



    Then... My post was deleted! Obviously it's because of my so not so ?nice? words. That would be okay, since that I know that



    But... the post about badmouthing the woman wasn't deleted.



    So .. My temper exploded. I demand the thread to be close.



    My post kept being deleted. But I keep on posting.



    Then the moderator said I should stop, or else I would be banned.



    I just said feel free to banned me, but I will not tolerate that sort of post.



    Later on.... My temper calm down, and I decided that maybe I was a bit irrational. I just said to the moderator tha if the moderator tolerate that sort of thing, fine, be it. But I still don't like it.



    Then the moderator said I shouldn't insult fellow forum members and that the forum isn't the place to look for a fight.



    I replied by mentioning that I will not tolerate that sort of cruelty to woman. But I decided maybe I was kinda out of line and I stop posting my ?unnice? message.



    Later on in the next morning ... When I decided to post another message in the forum, I found out that I was banned.



    When I asked another forum member, that maybe mentioning bad about someone badmouthing a woman isn't such a good idea, since that it might lead to a thread that caused a lot of conflict.



    Then he said that I shouldn't acted a ?worship her or die? attitude. Worship what? A woman should be treated as a woman. Why is that I got upset over a person badmouthing a woman suddenly become a worship toward her?





    Anyway. Violence against women would never stop. As long some people don't treat women as women, no matter who they are. Young or old, smart or less smart, pretty or less pretty, physically fit or physically unfit, brave or get scare easiliy, do good things or do bad things, and so on.



    A woman is a woman, no matter who she is or what she do.



    Is a woman equal to a man? No! Anyone who said that a woman is equal to a man must be out of his or her mind.



    Is a man given a higher role than woman?



    Yes. But... 5.2 might be is also a higher value than 4.8, but the difference is not that much (5.2 is 108% of 4.8).



    A man might have 5.2 in ability and role ?S? but only had 4.3 in ability and role ?T?. While woman might have 4.8 in ability and role ?S?, but had 5.7 in ability and role ?T?.



    So as you can see, man and woman aren't equal.



    Giving women equal rights and equal role in everywhere sort of way is nothing more that a way to made them miserable. Women are treated as men, aren't that cruel?



    But nevertheless, despite the ?gender? inequality, we men must take care and protect women. Because... Well... It's just our role!



    But of course, don't be mistaken, when ever someone do a bad thing, he or she must be punish.
  • Reply 11 of 26
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Most victims of violence are men. People need to ask themselves why violence against women stands out so (both in developed and underdeveloped countries). I think an honest interrogation would produce some disturbing answers.
  • Reply 12 of 26
    scott_h_phdscott_h_phd Posts: 448member
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    <strong>It's tantamount to genocide.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Actually it's not. Not to diminish what happened but what happened is not like genocide. IMO you should just call things what they are. In this case gang rape. Gang rape is gang rape and genocide is genocide. There's no need to compare gang rape to something else, It's horrible all on it's own.



    Wasn't there a thread about the Arab-Muslim world being backwards and corrupt? QED.
  • Reply 13 of 26
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    The use of the words "tantamount to genocide" refer to people treating others of their same people violently due to percieving them as being inferior to themselves.
  • Reply 14 of 26
    This situation was precipitated by an 11 year old boy from a "lower" tribe being seen with a girl from a "higher " tribe. I read this morning that the girl was 30 years old! I suspect he was not courting her.....



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  • Reply 15 of 26
    scott_h_phdscott_h_phd Posts: 448member
    [quote]Originally posted by Vargas:

    <strong>The use of the words "tantamount to genocide" refer to people treating others of their same people violently due to percieving them as being inferior to themselves.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yes but still it's not genocide.
  • Reply 16 of 26
    Best listen to Scott. He has a Ph.D.....
  • Reply 17 of 26
    scott_h_phdscott_h_phd Posts: 448member
    You don't have to listen to me. Just read a dictionary.
  • Reply 18 of 26
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    [quote]Originally posted by scott_h_phd:

    <strong>



    Yes but still it's not genocide.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I never said it was genicide, I said it was tantamount to it i.e it has an ambiguous connection to it when you look at the moral aspects of the subject.
  • Reply 19 of 26
    scott_h_phdscott_h_phd Posts: 448member
    You're misusing the word then.
  • Reply 20 of 26
    vargasvargas Posts: 426member
    Note again the use of the words "tantamount to". It is an ambiguous link that requires thinking around.
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