Sequoyah did not create it "in 1821". He spent some 12 years developing it. If you think about it, even that is a pretty short time. He had to develop not merely the symbols, but the entire grammar, and it had to be good enough to make sense to others and be relatively easy to learn as well.
A remarkable achievement, at precisely the right time in order to help the tribe stay cohesive. One of those rare occasions where a single individual really does make a huge difference.
Ah, so because you "can't" donate, the people who can should be forced to. Gotcha.
No, I can "donate" - but any donation I could make would be peanuts compared to a multi-million $ corporation's or billionaire's. Mark Zuckerberg's is an example. Comprendez? Not that difficult to comprehend.
Drop the "but" and stop right there... "No, I can donate."
A lot of "little nothings" can add up to a "whole lot of something"! Your donation should not be looked upon as too meager, or "peanuts" as you said, to do any good. Every little bit helps. That may sound cliche but it's true!
My family, then I, have been sending a small donation to our Volunteer Fire Rescue Squad. It's usually in the amount of $25.00 to $50.00. We have been donating for the past 40 years when we had a kitchen fire in our house when I was little and, no I didn't start it, but the volunteer fire rescue squad came in our time of need. In appreciation, and by no request of them, we have been donating a little something ever since.
We have always been of simple means (not billionaires either), and I would think the rescue squad wouldn't expect our donation to fully support their operations for the year, but our donation added to the countless of other hundreds or thousands of donations help to keep them in business and available in our time of need, Heaven forbid, should we have to call upon them again.
We also donate to the American Cancer Society ever since my mother passed from cancer 15 years ago. Again, $25.00 bucks or so. Nothing that will solely support their means to discover the cure for cancer, but a little something added to other's and their gift, allow the Cancer Society to continue their research.
There are a couple of other charities due to circumstances that have effected mine and my families life, but I would like to maintain some anonymity here.
Again, every little bit helps and the only donation to an organization or charity that is not helpful, is the one that is not made.
Pretty-sure it's called Tsalagi, not cherokee, which is the settlers' bastardization of "tsalagi" (those same settlers later got jobs on Ellis Island changing surnames of immigrants when they couldn't pronounce them).
Look again at the syllabary... see anything in that for the 'ch' sound?
There is already a Klingon dictionary and translator, so I think a Cherokee language app is a good idea.
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Next up.....a Navajo Code Talker App.
I was thinking of both these things when I read the article! (except re Klingon coming before Cherokee I would've said "not only a good idea, but overdue."
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber
Preservation of world languages is a real conundrum. On the one hand, multiple languages present a barrier to communication and understanding. On the other hand, each language has the potential to express nuances of the human experience that are unique. I can imagine that languages could be preserved in the electronic version of world seed banks. But without being used in real life they are merely museum artifacts. Perhaps the only solution is that everyone needs to be bilingual: a universal world language such as English, and the local tongue of your own cultural roots.
Good point and worth discussing. I'll add that translation technology is going to make it easier for people to keep speaking their own tongues for one thing. That's not an unmixed blessing for it makes people dependent on tech to communicate at all. However, English (for multiple reasons I won't get into in a post) does seem poised to become (for the multi-lingual) nearly everyone's second language. (Which is cool for English speakers at least.)
Not all declining languages end up as relics. Basque (outlawed by the Spanish government for many years) has made a big comeback. Gaelic, tho' hardly as endangered as Cherokee, is also enjoying a large resurgence in Ireland.
And other tongues may yet make a resurgence. Certainly all are worth at least archiving if only in the interest of history and heritage.
That is just cool. This is one of the glimpses into how much Apple cares about how they affect the world around them and the impact they can make.
What a sycophantic answer.
Apple is all over the place when it comes to 'doing the right thing'. Why, for example, did they recently pull the Wikileaks app? Was that doing the right thing? Or was it doing exactly what a morally bankrupt government wishes it to do?
Thinking differently, it seems, doesn't apply when it comes to whistleblowing.
Get real. There are more than 30,000 languages in the world. Should we keep them all alive or devote resources to other goals and have a single language to communicate? Get real.
Get real. There are more than 30,000 languages in the world. Should we keep them all alive or devote resources to other goals and have a single language to communicate? Get real.
Have one single language to comm-unicate? Sounds comm-unist (see what I did there? Heh).
Where is Apple's donation to Detroit or Newark, New jersey?
I think they will start helping out cities like Detroit when they stop looting stores after lost or or won ballgames. You know, act like civilized people.
I am glad they did this and may in fact know one of the people involved on the Cherokee side getting this done. I am going to shoot him an email right now. There is another language among the Cherokee that is only spoken by one or two people now. There are others trying to get as much learned and recorded as possible but once the last die, it is gone forever. Language preservation could be a basic historical preservation more valuable than any fossil. Very nice move of Apple.
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And technically written Cherokee is not an alphabet but a syllabary, but most people don't know the difference.
As is Japanese.
That is just cool. This is one of the glimpses into how much Apple cares about how they affect the world around them and the impact they can make.
Barf.
Where is Apple's donation to Detroit or Newark, New jersey?
Next up.....a Navajo Code Talker App.
And Tom-Tom Ringtones!
And Tom-Tom Ringtones!
HOW White man!
Sequoyah did not create it "in 1821". He spent some 12 years developing it. If you think about it, even that is a pretty short time. He had to develop not merely the symbols, but the entire grammar, and it had to be good enough to make sense to others and be relatively easy to learn as well.
A remarkable achievement, at precisely the right time in order to help the tribe stay cohesive. One of those rare occasions where a single individual really does make a huge difference.
Yeah, Sequoyah really had um TREED.
Barf.
Where is Apple's donation to Detroit or Newark, New jersey?
Right behind the donation I'm sure you made first.
To you, it's all about money, or you.
Kudos for Apple for making the effort on their own dime. But trolls like you just can't handle any positive news that involves Apple.
Go away.
HOW White man!
This is how...
Paul Revere & The Raiders
Of course you gotta love Cher
Right behind the donation I'm sure you made first.
To you, it's all about money, or you.
Kudos for Apple for making the effort on their own dime. But trolls like you just can't handle any positive news that involves Apple.
Go away.
Sorry- not gonna happen.
I'm not a billionaire.
And you have just been added to my fanbot ignore list .
Sorry- not gonna happen.
I'm not a billionaire.
And you have just been added to my fanbot ignore list .
Ah, so because you "can't" donate, the people who can should be forced to. Gotcha.
Ah, so because you "can't" donate, the people who can should be forced to. Gotcha.
No, I can "donate" - but any donation I could make would be peanuts compared to a multi-million $ corporation's or billionaire's. Mark Zuckerberg's is an example. Comprendez? Not that difficult to comprehend.
No, I can "donate" - but
Drop the "but" and stop right there... "No, I can donate."
A lot of "little nothings" can add up to a "whole lot of something"! Your donation should not be looked upon as too meager, or "peanuts" as you said, to do any good. Every little bit helps. That may sound cliche but it's true!
My family, then I, have been sending a small donation to our Volunteer Fire Rescue Squad. It's usually in the amount of $25.00 to $50.00. We have been donating for the past 40 years when we had a kitchen fire in our house when I was little and, no I didn't start it, but the volunteer fire rescue squad came in our time of need. In appreciation, and by no request of them, we have been donating a little something ever since.
We have always been of simple means (not billionaires either), and I would think the rescue squad wouldn't expect our donation to fully support their operations for the year, but our donation added to the countless of other hundreds or thousands of donations help to keep them in business and available in our time of need, Heaven forbid, should we have to call upon them again.
We also donate to the American Cancer Society ever since my mother passed from cancer 15 years ago. Again, $25.00 bucks or so. Nothing that will solely support their means to discover the cure for cancer, but a little something added to other's and their gift, allow the Cancer Society to continue their research.
There are a couple of other charities due to circumstances that have effected mine and my families life, but I would like to maintain some anonymity here.
Again, every little bit helps and the only donation to an organization or charity that is not helpful, is the one that is not made.
That is just cool. This is one of the glimpses into how much Apple cares about how they affect the world around them and the impact they can make.
maybe they (and other companies) should care enough to bring jobs back to the usa.
not just monkey work (aka as retail)
Look again at the syllabary... see anything in that for the 'ch' sound?
There is already a Klingon dictionary and translator, so I think a Cherokee language app is a good idea.
Next up.....a Navajo Code Talker App.
I was thinking of both these things when I read the article! (except re Klingon coming before Cherokee I would've said "not only a good idea, but overdue."
Preservation of world languages is a real conundrum. On the one hand, multiple languages present a barrier to communication and understanding. On the other hand, each language has the potential to express nuances of the human experience that are unique. I can imagine that languages could be preserved in the electronic version of world seed banks. But without being used in real life they are merely museum artifacts. Perhaps the only solution is that everyone needs to be bilingual: a universal world language such as English, and the local tongue of your own cultural roots.
Good point and worth discussing. I'll add that translation technology is going to make it easier for people to keep speaking their own tongues for one thing. That's not an unmixed blessing for it makes people dependent on tech to communicate at all. However, English (for multiple reasons I won't get into in a post) does seem poised to become (for the multi-lingual) nearly everyone's second language. (Which is cool for English speakers at least.)
Not all declining languages end up as relics. Basque (outlawed by the Spanish government for many years) has made a big comeback. Gaelic, tho' hardly as endangered as Cherokee, is also enjoying a large resurgence in Ireland.
And other tongues may yet make a resurgence. Certainly all are worth at least archiving if only in the interest of history and heritage.
That is just cool. This is one of the glimpses into how much Apple cares about how they affect the world around them and the impact they can make.
What a sycophantic answer.
Apple is all over the place when it comes to 'doing the right thing'. Why, for example, did they recently pull the Wikileaks app? Was that doing the right thing? Or was it doing exactly what a morally bankrupt government wishes it to do?
Thinking differently, it seems, doesn't apply when it comes to whistleblowing.
Get real. There are more than 30,000 languages in the world. Should we keep them all alive or devote resources to other goals and have a single language to communicate? Get real.
Have one single language to comm-unicate? Sounds comm-unist (see what I did there? Heh).
http://www.cherokee.org/Culture/Cher...Downloads.aspx
Now I one thing I would be curious to know is the ISO language code used to identify the language in software.
Barf.
Where is Apple's donation to Detroit or Newark, New jersey?
I think they will start helping out cities like Detroit when they stop looting stores after lost or or won ballgames. You know, act like civilized people.
I am glad they did this and may in fact know one of the people involved on the Cherokee side getting this done. I am going to shoot him an email right now. There is another language among the Cherokee that is only spoken by one or two people now. There are others trying to get as much learned and recorded as possible but once the last die, it is gone forever. Language preservation could be a basic historical preservation more valuable than any fossil. Very nice move of Apple.