I think this is pretty probable. It looks like the top part of the iPhone can be used as the WI-FI and Bluetooth antenna and the whole bottom part that almost goes around the whole phone is going to be network antenna. This way if the hand is covering only the bottom part of the phone now it will have the rest of the metal to connect through.
Plus it now looks symmetrical. Two black bands on one side and the other side.
I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 5 will keep the form factor of iPhone 4. Apple did it once with 3G, why not again.
Great post and most likely scenario except this is the Verizon iPhone not iPhone 4GS IMO...
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Originally Posted by ClemyNX
The problem did not came from the junction itself, but by the fact that covering it made a bridge between the two metallic bands therefore changing the resonance frequency of the antenna that could no longer receive the network field. Making more junctions would allow more antennas on each iPhone, so that even if you cover one, another keeps on working.
See above post, yes the problem is the hand bridging the two antennas and covering up the entire bottom section of the phone... If the phone is now just two antennas (top section for WiFi, middle+bottom section for cell signal (the bottom two seams are cosmetic)) it would now make sense.
That said this is probably the Verizon iPhone4 not iPhone 4GS etc IMO.
Except that it s not clear at all. These photos could be totally fake.
And keep in mind that Apple has taken the stance that there is no issue with the antenna design. They say the problem is ATT reception quality and hit greedy media
So the only way to 'address' that is to dump ATT and get a restraint order on the media.
Nope Apple said all smartphones have weak spots and the iPhone 4 has a weak spot at the seam, which is true. They did say it is still the antenna with the best reception of any iPhone, which is also true, if you are not touching the weak spot.
What about them? They don't exist, except in the minds of ever cranky self-appointed "fan boy police."
The "iPhone is really great" crowd? Sure. The "not really seeing a problem with the antenna" crowd? You bet. But claiming that some substantial number of people are flatly calling each iteration of the iPhone "perfect" is a pretty shabby strawman.
If they continually believe that there are no issues with any iPhone that need addressing or things that need improving, isn't that basically calling it perfect?
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Especially when compared to the actual fair numbers of people determined to fault Apple at every turn, many of them hanging around hereabouts.
Perhaps this explains the "How did this get past Apple quality control" comments that have been going around. If quality control or security testing staff at Apple did their jobs, they could be viewed as "people determined to fault Apple at every turn". So better for those guys to stay silent? In fact, why even hire QC staff at all, if all they are going to do is "fault Apple"?
Apple is a member of YouTube's "Content Verification Program." No one could have content removed under the name "Apple, Inc." without using the private CVP system for reporting it. If you see a video removed with the name of a big company, you are guaranteed that the named company reported it.
Except that it s not clear at all. These photos could be totally fake.
And keep in mind that Apple has taken the stance that there is no issue with the antenna design. They say the problem is ATT reception quality and hit greedy media
So the only way to 'address' that is to dump ATT and get a restraint order on the media.
You'll notice that I said it "seems clear". This is a personal perception of mine, and it may turn out to be wrong, but this is how it seems to me at the moment. Of course Apple will not admit to 100% responsibility for antenna-gate, nor would I if I were them. However, they also admitted that the iPhone, like all other phones suffers weaknesses, and who out there doesn't believe Apple will attempt to minimize these weaknesses with their eventual re-design? Of course they will, it's a no-brainer. If they end up not being able to significantly improve the antenna issue, then they just won't comment on their efforts, but if they do improve it you can bet they will let the world know about their breakthrough technology that puts them above all other handset makers. Either way, whether they succeed or not, it seems clear that they are trying to address the antenna issue.
Yes. I know that. And who's to say that's really Apple Inc.?
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Who says Apple's the one to have taken it down?
I would hope that just anybody couldn't contact Google and make copyright takedown requests in Apple's name. Maybe that is the case, but it doesn't seem likely.
I could be misremembering this, but I believe there are only 2 "metal sections" (the cellular and wifi/bluetooth antennas) in the current IP4 design. Some of the "gaps" are merely cosmetic and the "sections" are actually joined internally. So, the number and position of "gaps" doesn't necessarily tell us a whole lot about the actual antenna design.
Yes and no. I think if it was about cosmetics then Steve would prioritise having fewer gaps than having more in order for them to be symmetrical. I was surprised that he didn't didn't disguise them further the first time around by locating the gaps at the headphone jack and the 30 pin connector socket.
I think this means the antennae sections will be at the top and base of the device and the two straight metal sections on the sides will serve to separate the two antennae as far from each other as possible. Regardless of the minimal impact on sales Antennagate was a PR fiasco the first time around. An antennae redesign was virtually guaranteed this time around.
Apple does no launches on Mondays. They always did Tuesdays so the press wouldn't have to fly on Sunday. If there was a launch, we'd have seen invites early this week. It's not happening.
Apple does no launches on Mondays. They always did Tuesdays so the press wouldn't have to fly on Sunday. If there was a launch, we'd have seen invites early this week. It's not happening.
Verizon just announced a January 11 eventttttttttttttt
Personally, I don't think it's the fifth gen iPhone.
Why?
Because if you look at it, now there's 4 antennas as opposed to 3, as there were in the iPhone 4. So basically, you have the same antennas for the iPhone 4 (Bluetooth/WiFi/GPS, and GSM. But now its bluetooth/WiFi/GPS, and CDMA) plus a fourth antenna that could be used for LTE.
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I think this is pretty probable. It looks like the top part of the iPhone can be used as the WI-FI and Bluetooth antenna and the whole bottom part that almost goes around the whole phone is going to be network antenna. This way if the hand is covering only the bottom part of the phone now it will have the rest of the metal to connect through.
Plus it now looks symmetrical. Two black bands on one side and the other side.
I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 5 will keep the form factor of iPhone 4. Apple did it once with 3G, why not again.
Great post and most likely scenario except this is the Verizon iPhone not iPhone 4GS IMO...
The problem did not came from the junction itself, but by the fact that covering it made a bridge between the two metallic bands therefore changing the resonance frequency of the antenna that could no longer receive the network field. Making more junctions would allow more antennas on each iPhone, so that even if you cover one, another keeps on working.
See above post, yes the problem is the hand bridging the two antennas and covering up the entire bottom section of the phone... If the phone is now just two antennas (top section for WiFi, middle+bottom section for cell signal (the bottom two seams are cosmetic)) it would now make sense.
That said this is probably the Verizon iPhone4 not iPhone 4GS etc IMO.
CDMA can use a SIM called R-UIM. China Unicom uses them.
Oh yeah, China Telecom does use them.
Except that it s not clear at all. These photos could be totally fake.
And keep in mind that Apple has taken the stance that there is no issue with the antenna design. They say the problem is ATT reception quality and hit greedy media
So the only way to 'address' that is to dump ATT and get a restraint order on the media.
Nope Apple said all smartphones have weak spots and the iPhone 4 has a weak spot at the seam, which is true. They did say it is still the antenna with the best reception of any iPhone, which is also true, if you are not touching the weak spot.
And poof.. the video is taken down with a Copyright notice from Apple. Bingo.
Who says Apple's the one to have taken it down?
Who says Apple's the one to have taken it down?
YouTube says it "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Apple, Inc."
What about them? They don't exist, except in the minds of ever cranky self-appointed "fan boy police."
The "iPhone is really great" crowd? Sure. The "not really seeing a problem with the antenna" crowd? You bet. But claiming that some substantial number of people are flatly calling each iteration of the iPhone "perfect" is a pretty shabby strawman.
If they continually believe that there are no issues with any iPhone that need addressing or things that need improving, isn't that basically calling it perfect?
Especially when compared to the actual fair numbers of people determined to fault Apple at every turn, many of them hanging around hereabouts.
Perhaps this explains the "How did this get past Apple quality control" comments that have been going around. If quality control or security testing staff at Apple did their jobs, they could be viewed as "people determined to fault Apple at every turn". So better for those guys to stay silent? In fact, why even hire QC staff at all, if all they are going to do is "fault Apple"?
YouTube says it "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Apple, Inc."
Yes. I know that. And who's to say that's really Apple Inc.?
Yes. I know that. And who's to say that's really Apple Inc.?
1) They have a very official looking Apple Channel on YouTube which I can only assume was long ago verified.2) Since Google owns YouTube I find it hard to believe that some unknown source sent YouTube through some unofficial channel.
Except that it s not clear at all. These photos could be totally fake.
And keep in mind that Apple has taken the stance that there is no issue with the antenna design. They say the problem is ATT reception quality and hit greedy media
So the only way to 'address' that is to dump ATT and get a restraint order on the media.
You'll notice that I said it "seems clear". This is a personal perception of mine, and it may turn out to be wrong, but this is how it seems to me at the moment. Of course Apple will not admit to 100% responsibility for antenna-gate, nor would I if I were them. However, they also admitted that the iPhone, like all other phones suffers weaknesses, and who out there doesn't believe Apple will attempt to minimize these weaknesses with their eventual re-design? Of course they will, it's a no-brainer. If they end up not being able to significantly improve the antenna issue, then they just won't comment on their efforts, but if they do improve it you can bet they will let the world know about their breakthrough technology that puts them above all other handset makers. Either way, whether they succeed or not, it seems clear that they are trying to address the antenna issue.
Yes. I know that. And who's to say that's really Apple Inc.?
Who says Apple's the one to have taken it down?
I would hope that just anybody couldn't contact Google and make copyright takedown requests in Apple's name. Maybe that is the case, but it doesn't seem likely.
http://www.iosnoops.com/2011/01/06/c...-launch-rumor/
I could be misremembering this, but I believe there are only 2 "metal sections" (the cellular and wifi/bluetooth antennas) in the current IP4 design. Some of the "gaps" are merely cosmetic and the "sections" are actually joined internally. So, the number and position of "gaps" doesn't necessarily tell us a whole lot about the actual antenna design.
Yes and no. I think if it was about cosmetics then Steve would prioritise having fewer gaps than having more in order for them to be symmetrical. I was surprised that he didn't didn't disguise them further the first time around by locating the gaps at the headphone jack and the 30 pin connector socket.
I think this means the antennae sections will be at the top and base of the device and the two straight metal sections on the sides will serve to separate the two antennae as far from each other as possible. Regardless of the minimal impact on sales Antennagate was a PR fiasco the first time around. An antennae redesign was virtually guaranteed this time around.
Looks like the phone will be launched early next week, can't wait
http://www.iosnoops.com/2011/01/06/c...-launch-rumor/
I look forward to it. If only SO THAT THESE BLOODY VERIZON RUMOURS CAN FINALLY, FINALLY COME TO AN END!!!!
Looks like the phone will be launched early next week, can't wait
http://www.iosnoops.com/2011/01/06/c...-launch-rumor/
Apple does no launches on Mondays. They always did Tuesdays so the press wouldn't have to fly on Sunday. If there was a launch, we'd have seen invites early this week. It's not happening.
Looks like the phone will be launched early next week, can't wait
http://www.iosnoops.com/2011/01/06/c...-launch-rumor/
Apple does no launches on Mondays. They always did Tuesdays so the press wouldn't have to fly on Sunday. If there was a launch, we'd have seen invites early this week. It's not happening.
Verizon just announced a January 11 eventttttttttttttt
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...eculation.html
Verizon just announced a January 11 eventttttttttttttt
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...eculation.html
And as I've said for the past three years, I'll believe it when Steve Jobs stands on stage in front of a Verizon logo or I'm holding one in my hand.
Verizon's CEO himself said that they would not be launching the iPhone, Apple would.
Why?
Because if you look at it, now there's 4 antennas as opposed to 3, as there were in the iPhone 4. So basically, you have the same antennas for the iPhone 4 (Bluetooth/WiFi/GPS, and GSM. But now its bluetooth/WiFi/GPS, and CDMA) plus a fourth antenna that could be used for LTE.
(courtesy of Engadet.com)