Anyone watching an SNL skit can see they are watching a parody and not the real person as most of their stuff uses actors. But given that a number of actors and celebs are on twitter it is possible for many to think he is Jobs. That is the concern since he didn't label himself clearly as a joke. And his comments could do a lot of damage.
I don't know, some of the skits are very good, if I was flipping channels I might be fooled.
In all seriousness, if the guy is truly pretending to be Steve and telling people he is Steve Jobs of Apple then that is criminal. However, still seems like Apple likes to crush people who poke fun at them. Maybe I'm not taking it serious enough, don't know, I don't claim to be any of the wise men I posted quotes from. I'm quite humble enough to admit that I'm probably more of a fool.
What all you genius' are forgetting is that Mr. Jobs was okay with "Fake Steve Jobs" (another seriously lame, unfunny parody), and it went on for years. He is even quoted as saying he thought it was (occasionally) funny.
So everyone jumping on the obvious meme of Apple being "over-controlling," or Steve Jobs being "wound too tight" are just wrong. This meme is what *really* wise people used to call a popular misconception.
It's more likely that someone posting a tweet about Apple products having shotguns in them, is the root of all the commotion. That's not only not funny it's directly disparaging and defamatory.
If this idiot "christof" had any real talent, he could get a laugh without resorting to stupidity, violence and insults. If it really *was* a "parody" account, it would be more intelligent and, you know ... actually parody the guy instead of just saying a lot of dumb stuff.
Hmmm, guess I misjudged this one, if what you say is true then I hope Apple puts the biggest boot they got on him.
I don't really follow twitter, guess I should stick to things I know about. My apologies.
Nother wiseman once said "don't f*ck with someone using their name especially if they are woth many billions of dollars!".
Until that billion dollar man f*cks with the guy that has nothing to lose and gets his head cracked? Money wont help him then. You sue someone for everything they have, then they have nothing to lose.
I don't see the twitter stuff as much different than some SNL skits, Steve needs to lighten up a bit. I doubt anyone out there would describe him as laid back & good humored, he seems pretty tight wound. Just cause they wear jeans & Ts, don't let it fool you, those are uniforms. They uniformly try to look cool by all dressing like Steve Jobs.
It's a lot easier to tell on video that it's not really him.
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Wow, twitter has a "fake" policy? I guess ya have to, after all, so many legit stars use it.
Twitter. The fact that it is popular speaks volumes of our society.
It does have too much mind share. Social networks have value, but a lot of people need to dial it back. Especially web sites, a dozen icons to "share" a page on a social network is stupid.
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What all you genius' are forgetting is that Mr. Jobs was okay with "Fake Steve Jobs" (another seriously lame, unfunny parody), and it went on for years. He is even quoted as saying he thought it was (occasionally) funny.
All true. Though didn't FSJ host his own web site? I'd gather that he would have to be sued to be stopped. Maybe the twitter account isn't something Apple would sue over, but with an available procedure to have the account changed, that would use that system but maybe not resort to a lawsuit, which is hypothetically speaking, of course.
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It's more likely that someone posting a tweet about Apple products having shotguns in them, is the root of all the commotion. That's not only not funny it's directly disparaging and defamatory.
That's so obviously not true that I don't see how it is disparaging and defamatory. I don't believe it could qualify for the legal definition of defamatory.
That's so obviously not true that I don't see how it is disparaging and defamatory. It would be disparaging and defamatory if reasonable people would think it's true, but I don't see how.
You really think that most of the people that comment here are reasonable?
It is obvious Twitter and such are not on his favorite list.
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Here’s the pitch Steve Jobs is making to media companies: Cut your prices, and I’ll help you move a lot of product.
Speaking at the D8 conference, the Apple CEO said he wants to help save journalism because “I don’t want to see us descend into a nation of bloggers myself. I think we need editorial more than ever.” Ahem. Regardless, “What we have to do is figure out a way to get people to start paying for this hard-earned content.” Okay. So how to do that? “Price it aggressively, and go for volume.”.
Cobra Commander nor Batman have sued over their parody accounts. Steve may have billions at his disposal but I'd be a lot more intimidated by one of them.
I know people love to paint this as Apple using it's clout to crush a little guy, but the only real issue here is whether or not the twitter account in question violates twitter's policy on parody, and on the surface it looks like it does.
I work for a fairly small college that has little clout whatsoever (and definitely no billions of dollars) and recently we discovered the name one of our more well-know professors being was used by a twitter account holder. There was no maliciousness behind it; rather, the account was basically just publishing quotes from the professor's works. However, he/she had garnered a lot of followers by using the professor's name to the point where people thought that it indeed was his twitter account. We asked the person to change the account name, but received no response. We then filed a complaint with twitter, making it clear that we didn't want the account removed, but only wanted the name changed. Instead, twitter completely removed the account.
So it seem that twitter takes it's parody policy very seriously, where you're a big company or small college. Apple is completely within it's rights to offer a complaint, and seemingly has done so using the proper channels. Perhaps instead of whining about the situation a person should instead first familiarize themselves with the policy's of a website before embarking on such an endeavour.
What all you genius' are forgetting is that Mr. Jobs was okay with "Fake Steve Jobs" (another seriously lame, unfunny parody), and it went on for years. He is even quoted as saying he thought it was (occasionally) funny. .....
..... If this idiot "christof" had any real talent, he could get a laugh without resorting to stupidity, violence and insults. If it really *was* a "parody" account, it would be more intelligent and, you know ... actually parody the guy instead of just saying a lot of dumb stuff.
100% correct ... like a lot of people this morning, I checked out this site and was really disappointed. I appreciate smart, witty humor .... but nothing that I saw on that site had any of those qualities. It was like reading something that a teenager living in their Moms basement might tweet .... adolescent, moronic and dumb. Oh well, maybe next time ..... \
In all seriousness, if the guy is truly pretending to be Steve and telling people he is Steve Jobs of Apple then that is criminal. However, still seems like Apple likes to crush people who poke fun at them.
Wow ... even if you're on Apples side, you're like ... not! .... must hurt like hell, going through life with a fence post up your ass. ...
Twitter and Apple need to take care in this case that they aren't impairing an individual's right to freedom of speech. Parody and satire are included.
Twitter and Apple need to take care in this case that they aren't impairing an individual's right to freedom of speech. Parody and satire are included.
I gather you don't know your Bill of Rights.
The First Amendment reads,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You are aware that Congress does not mean companies, schools, your parents, etc., etc.
That's so obviously not true that I don't see how it is disparaging and defamatory. It would be disparaging and defamatory if reasonable people would think it's true, but I don't see how.
Jeff this is the internet. It seems somewhat naive to expect to find reasonable people here.
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Anyone watching an SNL skit can see they are watching a parody and not the real person as most of their stuff uses actors. But given that a number of actors and celebs are on twitter it is possible for many to think he is Jobs. That is the concern since he didn't label himself clearly as a joke. And his comments could do a lot of damage.
I don't know, some of the skits are very good, if I was flipping channels I might be fooled.
In all seriousness, if the guy is truly pretending to be Steve and telling people he is Steve Jobs of Apple then that is criminal. However, still seems like Apple likes to crush people who poke fun at them. Maybe I'm not taking it serious enough, don't know, I don't claim to be any of the wise men I posted quotes from. I'm quite humble enough to admit that I'm probably more of a fool.
What all you genius' are forgetting is that Mr. Jobs was okay with "Fake Steve Jobs" (another seriously lame, unfunny parody), and it went on for years. He is even quoted as saying he thought it was (occasionally) funny.
So everyone jumping on the obvious meme of Apple being "over-controlling," or Steve Jobs being "wound too tight" are just wrong. This meme is what *really* wise people used to call a popular misconception.
It's more likely that someone posting a tweet about Apple products having shotguns in them, is the root of all the commotion. That's not only not funny it's directly disparaging and defamatory.
If this idiot "christof" had any real talent, he could get a laugh without resorting to stupidity, violence and insults. If it really *was* a "parody" account, it would be more intelligent and, you know ... actually parody the guy instead of just saying a lot of dumb stuff.
Hmmm, guess I misjudged this one, if what you say is true then I hope Apple puts the biggest boot they got on him.
I don't really follow twitter, guess I should stick to things I know about. My apologies.
Granted, looking at it, I doubt anyone would truly believe it was the real Steve Jobs, but you need to label yourself as a parody.
Everyone needs to lighten up.
People who tell everyone to lighten up need to lighten up.
Nother wiseman once said "don't f*ck with someone using their name especially if they are woth many billions of dollars!".
Until that billion dollar man f*cks with the guy that has nothing to lose and gets his head cracked? Money wont help him then. You sue someone for everything they have, then they have nothing to lose.
I got lawyers up the ass!!
If you must have lawyers, that's the place for 'em.
That an exact quote?
I don't see the twitter stuff as much different than some SNL skits, Steve needs to lighten up a bit. I doubt anyone out there would describe him as laid back & good humored, he seems pretty tight wound. Just cause they wear jeans & Ts, don't let it fool you, those are uniforms. They uniformly try to look cool by all dressing like Steve Jobs.
It's a lot easier to tell on video that it's not really him.
Wow, twitter has a "fake" policy? I guess ya have to, after all, so many legit stars use it.
Twitter. The fact that it is popular speaks volumes of our society.
It does have too much mind share. Social networks have value, but a lot of people need to dial it back. Especially web sites, a dozen icons to "share" a page on a social network is stupid.
What all you genius' are forgetting is that Mr. Jobs was okay with "Fake Steve Jobs" (another seriously lame, unfunny parody), and it went on for years. He is even quoted as saying he thought it was (occasionally) funny.
All true. Though didn't FSJ host his own web site? I'd gather that he would have to be sued to be stopped. Maybe the twitter account isn't something Apple would sue over, but with an available procedure to have the account changed, that would use that system but maybe not resort to a lawsuit, which is hypothetically speaking, of course.
It's more likely that someone posting a tweet about Apple products having shotguns in them, is the root of all the commotion. That's not only not funny it's directly disparaging and defamatory.
That's so obviously not true that I don't see how it is disparaging and defamatory. I don't believe it could qualify for the legal definition of defamatory.
That's so obviously not true that I don't see how it is disparaging and defamatory. It would be disparaging and defamatory if reasonable people would think it's true, but I don't see how.
You really think that most of the people that comment here are reasonable?
It is obvious Twitter and such are not on his favorite list.
Here’s the pitch Steve Jobs is making to media companies: Cut your prices, and I’ll help you move a lot of product.
Speaking at the D8 conference, the Apple CEO said he wants to help save journalism because “I don’t want to see us descend into a nation of bloggers myself. I think we need editorial more than ever.” Ahem. Regardless, “What we have to do is figure out a way to get people to start paying for this hard-earned content.” Okay. So how to do that? “Price it aggressively, and go for volume.”.
http://d8.allthingsd.com/speakers/steve-jobs/
You really think that most of the people that comment here are reasonable?
Maybe I can change that, I don't think it can pass a legal definition of defamation. Otherwise, I'm not sure where you're going there.
Wise man once said that a sign of maturity is whether or not you can laugh at yourself.
while i do wonder if Jobs knows what pure joy and laughter is....the twitter account name was misleading and not obvious it was 'fake'.
Everyone needs to lighten up. Including Apple.
I work for a fairly small college that has little clout whatsoever (and definitely no billions of dollars) and recently we discovered the name one of our more well-know professors being was used by a twitter account holder. There was no maliciousness behind it; rather, the account was basically just publishing quotes from the professor's works. However, he/she had garnered a lot of followers by using the professor's name to the point where people thought that it indeed was his twitter account. We asked the person to change the account name, but received no response. We then filed a complaint with twitter, making it clear that we didn't want the account removed, but only wanted the name changed. Instead, twitter completely removed the account.
So it seem that twitter takes it's parody policy very seriously, where you're a big company or small college. Apple is completely within it's rights to offer a complaint, and seemingly has done so using the proper channels. Perhaps instead of whining about the situation a person should instead first familiarize themselves with the policy's of a website before embarking on such an endeavour.
What all you genius' are forgetting is that Mr. Jobs was okay with "Fake Steve Jobs" (another seriously lame, unfunny parody), and it went on for years. He is even quoted as saying he thought it was (occasionally) funny. .....
..... If this idiot "christof" had any real talent, he could get a laugh without resorting to stupidity, violence and insults. If it really *was* a "parody" account, it would be more intelligent and, you know ... actually parody the guy instead of just saying a lot of dumb stuff.
100% correct ... like a lot of people this morning, I checked out this site and was really disappointed. I appreciate smart, witty humor .... but nothing that I saw on that site had any of those qualities. It was like reading something that a teenager living in their Moms basement might tweet .... adolescent, moronic and dumb. Oh well, maybe next time .....
In all seriousness, if the guy is truly pretending to be Steve and telling people he is Steve Jobs of Apple then that is criminal. However, still seems like Apple likes to crush people who poke fun at them.
Wow ... even if you're on Apples side, you're like ... not! .... must hurt like hell, going through life with a fence post up your ass. ...
If you must have lawyers, that's the place for 'em.
Twitter and Apple need to take care in this case that they aren't impairing an individual's right to freedom of speech. Parody and satire are included.
I gather you don't know your Bill of Rights.
The First Amendment reads,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You are aware that Congress does not mean companies, schools, your parents, etc., etc.
That's so obviously not true that I don't see how it is disparaging and defamatory. It would be disparaging and defamatory if reasonable people would think it's true, but I don't see how.
Jeff this is the internet. It seems somewhat naive to expect to find reasonable people here.