<strong>pepsi is better than coke. though i must say that, when you get coke at a bar, on tap, its really good. also, pepsi is more like amd or Apple than intel and ms. intel/ms make the popular (in sales) version of their trade, pepsi/Apple make the second most popular (yet, better) product.
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Pepsi IS NOT better than Coke.
And your analogy is the worst piece of shit I've ever heard.
I remember drinking Mr Pibb and that stuff was pretty good. I think it's a Coca-Cola beverage. Dr Pepper is Pepsi? I went to Burger King today, and they have Coke prudcts, but I got some Dr Pepper in my mix drink (mixed a bunch of em together), so that strikes me as being rather odd.
Pepsi Twist (and Diet Coke with "lemon") are the right idea, poorly implemented. In Europe they put a slice of lemon in colas quite often when you get them in the restaurant. Cola is great with lemon.
The problem is that Pepsi and Coke, for whatever reason (I think that either a) they're cheap bastards or b) there's problems with the ingredients going bad), put in a mix of citric and ascorbic acid, not actual lemon juice. End result? It just tastes "tart", not lemony.
Pepsi (or Coke) with lemon juice is great, though.
<strong>Wow, crazy. Here in Portland, every Pepsi vendor (both fountain and bottle) keeps Dr. Pepper & Pepsi stuff together. And when the theater chain switched from Coke products to Pepsi products, they brought in Dr. Pepper, and when they switched back to Coke products, Pepsi disappeared. Dr. Pepper must not only be bottled by Pepsi but distributed by Pepsi distributors.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, I'm sure your local Pepsi bottler/distributor there in Portland also has the contract for Dr Pepper. Here in the Twin Cities I think Dr Pepper/Seven Up is independently bottled; fountain Dr Pepper can be hard to find.
The way it works is this: The parent companies, PepsiCo in New York and Coca-Cola in Atlanta, sell syrup to local companies that bottle and distribute it, because selling syrup is a much higher-profit business than actually bottling and distributing it (higher overhead costs).
Most Coke bottlers, though, are in fact controlled by Coke (the biggest is Coca-Cola Enterprises; technically it's a separate company so Coke can keep those lower-profit bottling operations off its balance sheet). Pepsi bottlers have historically been more independent, but today many are consolidating more along the Coke model.
Coke bottlers toed the company line and stuck with Coke products, but Pepsi bottlers often picked up independent contracts to fill gaps in the Pepsi lineup, like Dr Pepper and 7Up. With consolidation, that's becoming less and less the case. You may have seen on that Web site I linked to that the biggest Pepsi bottler, <a href="http://www.pbg.com/"; target="_blank">Pepsi Bottling Group</a>, will <a href="http://www.dpsu.com/nr_pbg.html"; target="_blank">no longer bottle</a> 7Up in favor of Sierra Mist, PepsiCo's own lemon-lime drink.
My grandfather was once part owner of a Pepsi bottler in North Dakota. They sold out to Carl Pohlad in the '70s, and now it's part of a big company called <a href="http://www.pepsiamericas.com"; target="_blank">PepsiAmericas</a> that bottles and distributes Pepsi in much of the Midwest.
Probably much more than you wanted to know ... sorry
You know, I've long been intrigued by the "Dr. Pepper/no Dr. Pepper" rules.
There's a HUGE Coca-Cola bottling plant in my hometown of Chattanooga, TN. Went there for a field trip in third grade and I distinctly remember Dr. Pepper signage out front, as well as trucks, cases, etc. In other words, Dr. Pepper was/is bottled at that Coca-Cola facility.
Granted, this was about half a gazillion years ago.
If you go to a Pepsico restaurant (KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut), they have Pepsi. BUT, they also have Dr. Pepper.
However, some Subways and McDonald's and Burger Kings carry Coca-Cola AND Dr. Pepper (no Pepsi).
There's always that damn unknown vibe when you go through life as a Dr. Pepper man.
It's a total crap shoot when you go to new, strange restaurants.
My absolute biggest dread is asking the waitress for a Coke (just knowing it's more common, I usually ask for it in restaurants). She'll go "is Pepsi okay?". After I finish gagging and jerking around on the floor for 2-3 minutes, I'll ask "Do you have Dr. Pepper?".
About 60% of the time they do, and all is right with the universe and I'm a happy little clam.
It's that damn 40% of the time where they go "we have DIET Pepsi, Mountain Dew, yak piss and Mr. Pibb..." that I usually feel that the air has been kicked from my lungs and that life is suddenly a cruel, nasty joke.
I'm not above toting in a 20oz. Dr. Pepper purchased just minutes earlier at a 7-11 if I know I'm going to a restaurant that has neither Coke or Dr. Pepper. I just ask for a glass of ice and proceed to serve myself Dr. Pepper during the meal.
It's garnered me a couple of weird looks, but they're always cool with it. I explain that if I drink Pepsi I may very well die right there in the booth. That usually makes them back off.
I did, however, recently opt for a Mr. Pibb at place a couple of weeks ago. Tastes like Vicks Formula 44 cough syrup with a Johnson's Baby Wipe dipped in it.
Burger King, KFC, Taco Bell, etc. are no longer owned by PepsiCo. And outside the US, 7UP is considered a Pepsi-Cola brand. They even had Star Wars characters on the cans outside the US when Episode 1 was being marketed to death.
I drink Perrier and juice squeeze...but vanilla coke got me drinking some pop again....vanilla coke is good stuff....pepsi blue sounds wrong....and red pepper sounds strange....Pepsi does have big hit pop stars in their adverts....only more reason to hate them I guess.
I do enjoy rootbeer though...never gets old even when I wasn't drinking much pop, root beer still appealed to me....henry weinhards and ibc...and even a&w is good stuff.
I also like hansens....thats not really pop though...I mean it is...but its not all mutated like most pops(well its less mutated)
<strong>Burger King, KFC, Taco Bell, etc. are no longer owned by PepsiCo. And outside the US, 7UP is considered a Pepsi-Cola brand. They even had Star Wars characters on the cans outside the US when Episode 1 was being marketed to death.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm sure you're right ... soft-drink ownership rights outside the U.S. are so byzantine I can't keep track anymore. Here in the U.S. antitrust rules prevent the Big Two from buying the smaller brands. In the mid-'80s Pepsi tried to buy 7UP and Coke tried to buy Dr Pepper. The FTC blocked both deals and Dr Pepper merged with 7UP instead.
Coke was the original just like apple, but now isnt as popular. Pepsi is the cheap immitator, just like microsoft and all the teeny-boppers make it popular... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
as for Dr. Pepper... in the supermaket I work at, Dr. Pepper comes from the Coke distros... there IS a CD distro that has sunkist, A&W etc... and a Pepsi distro that has 7up, brisk, and well, pepsi... (and others, im not going to list very soda we sell...)
intrestingly enoug i have not seen pepsi blue, or Dr. pepper red... Code red didnt sell well so we dont carry it, and mountain dew is a slow seller as well...
Vanilla coke is the only "new" drink that is carried, the "twists" dont sell either.... go figure...
I hate soda anyways... the store sellls it at cost, it is heavy to carry and is a waste of space and money (in terms of running a supermarket and nutritional value...) hell the only reason we sell it is to get people into the store... the scarry part is that it is cheaer to buy soda then it is to buy water..... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> what is this country coming to? I cant wait to be able to move to Europe or even canada... :eek:
i definately think diet pepsi is better than diet coke.
i used to not know the difference. unfortunately i grew up and can't stand the taste of diet coke. when i go to a coke restaurant i order sprite.
i don't liek diet pepsi twist. why would i? it tastes bad. i also don't like vanilla so vanilla coke is out of the question.
i tried red fusion the other day and to me it tasted exactly like dr pepper. so basically it was gross. am i starting to sound picky? hah.
i've never heard of this pepsi blue but from these posts it sounds disguisting.
the only interesting fact i know about either company is that way back int he day coke had the chance to buy out pepsi and they didnt because they didn't see them as competition. i heard that on the book on tape version of For God, Country, and Coca-Cola. i was forced to listen to that book in my friends car all the way to the mall of america. ehhh long trip for a high schooler.
<strong>Coke was the original just like apple, but now isnt as popular. Pepsi is the cheap immitator, just like microsoft and all the teeny-boppers make it popular... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Whatever...more like Coke is the status quo. When people order a cola at a restaurant, most likely they ask for a Coke. How many countless people have passed by my dorm room and asked "Hey, is that Mac Windows?"
Coke was first sold in 1886. Pepsi appeared in 1898. So what? The first Apple computer came after many other PCs before it.
<strong>I'm sure it's better than Vanilla Coke. That stuff is terrible. It has just enough vanilla in it that it makes it taste weird, but not really enough to have its own taste.
But I don't like pop too much anyway, so why am I talking?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree, I like Cherry Coke, but Vanilla Coke is nasty.
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[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>
<strong>I forgot to mention that Pibb Extra is great too! Its like Mr. Pibb only it tastes MORE.
.....hope that made sense
Don't lie. Pibb Xtra is a sham. There isn't anything "Xtra" about it, it's just an alternate recipe!
<strong>pepsi is better than coke. though i must say that, when you get coke at a bar, on tap, its really good. also, pepsi is more like amd or Apple than intel and ms. intel/ms make the popular (in sales) version of their trade, pepsi/Apple make the second most popular (yet, better) product.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Pepsi IS NOT better than Coke.
And your analogy is the worst piece of shit I've ever heard.
I remember drinking Mr Pibb and that stuff was pretty good. I think it's a Coca-Cola beverage. Dr Pepper is Pepsi? I went to Burger King today, and they have Coke prudcts, but I got some Dr Pepper in my mix drink (mixed a bunch of em together), so that strikes me as being rather odd.
Pepsi just can't hang.
<strong>If you gotta have soda, you gotta get
Jones Soda
Great Stuff... Bought some today as a matter of fact!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
For a minute I thought you were talking about Jim Jones and his special Kool Aid.
Pepsi Twist (and Diet Coke with "lemon") are the right idea, poorly implemented. In Europe they put a slice of lemon in colas quite often when you get them in the restaurant. Cola is great with lemon.
The problem is that Pepsi and Coke, for whatever reason (I think that either a) they're cheap bastards or b) there's problems with the ingredients going bad), put in a mix of citric and ascorbic acid, not actual lemon juice. End result? It just tastes "tart", not lemony.
Pepsi (or Coke) with lemon juice is great, though.
<strong>Wow, crazy. Here in Portland, every Pepsi vendor (both fountain and bottle) keeps Dr. Pepper & Pepsi stuff together. And when the theater chain switched from Coke products to Pepsi products, they brought in Dr. Pepper, and when they switched back to Coke products, Pepsi disappeared. Dr. Pepper must not only be bottled by Pepsi but distributed by Pepsi distributors.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, I'm sure your local Pepsi bottler/distributor there in Portland also has the contract for Dr Pepper. Here in the Twin Cities I think Dr Pepper/Seven Up is independently bottled; fountain Dr Pepper can be hard to find.
The way it works is this: The parent companies, PepsiCo in New York and Coca-Cola in Atlanta, sell syrup to local companies that bottle and distribute it, because selling syrup is a much higher-profit business than actually bottling and distributing it (higher overhead costs).
Most Coke bottlers, though, are in fact controlled by Coke (the biggest is Coca-Cola Enterprises; technically it's a separate company so Coke can keep those lower-profit bottling operations off its balance sheet). Pepsi bottlers have historically been more independent, but today many are consolidating more along the Coke model.
Coke bottlers toed the company line and stuck with Coke products, but Pepsi bottlers often picked up independent contracts to fill gaps in the Pepsi lineup, like Dr Pepper and 7Up. With consolidation, that's becoming less and less the case. You may have seen on that Web site I linked to that the biggest Pepsi bottler, <a href="http://www.pbg.com/"; target="_blank">Pepsi Bottling Group</a>, will <a href="http://www.dpsu.com/nr_pbg.html"; target="_blank">no longer bottle</a> 7Up in favor of Sierra Mist, PepsiCo's own lemon-lime drink.
My grandfather was once part owner of a Pepsi bottler in North Dakota. They sold out to Carl Pohlad in the '70s, and now it's part of a big company called <a href="http://www.pepsiamericas.com"; target="_blank">PepsiAmericas</a> that bottles and distributes Pepsi in much of the Midwest.
Probably much more than you wanted to know ... sorry
[ 07-25-2002: Message edited by: CaseCom ]</p>
There's a HUGE Coca-Cola bottling plant in my hometown of Chattanooga, TN. Went there for a field trip in third grade and I distinctly remember Dr. Pepper signage out front, as well as trucks, cases, etc. In other words, Dr. Pepper was/is bottled at that Coca-Cola facility.
Granted, this was about half a gazillion years ago.
If you go to a Pepsico restaurant (KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut), they have Pepsi. BUT, they also have Dr. Pepper.
However, some Subways and McDonald's and Burger Kings carry Coca-Cola AND Dr. Pepper (no Pepsi).
There's always that damn unknown vibe when you go through life as a Dr. Pepper man.
It's a total crap shoot when you go to new, strange restaurants.
My absolute biggest dread is asking the waitress for a Coke (just knowing it's more common, I usually ask for it in restaurants). She'll go "is Pepsi okay?". After I finish gagging and jerking around on the floor for 2-3 minutes, I'll ask "Do you have Dr. Pepper?".
About 60% of the time they do, and all is right with the universe and I'm a happy little clam.
It's that damn 40% of the time where they go "we have DIET Pepsi, Mountain Dew, yak piss and Mr. Pibb..." that I usually feel that the air has been kicked from my lungs and that life is suddenly a cruel, nasty joke.
I'm not above toting in a 20oz. Dr. Pepper purchased just minutes earlier at a 7-11 if I know I'm going to a restaurant that has neither Coke or Dr. Pepper. I just ask for a glass of ice and proceed to serve myself Dr. Pepper during the meal.
It's garnered me a couple of weird looks, but they're always cool with it. I explain that if I drink Pepsi I may very well die right there in the booth. That usually makes them back off.
I did, however, recently opt for a Mr. Pibb at place a couple of weeks ago. Tastes like Vicks Formula 44 cough syrup with a Johnson's Baby Wipe dipped in it.
:eek:
I drink Perrier and juice squeeze...but vanilla coke got me drinking some pop again....vanilla coke is good stuff....pepsi blue sounds wrong....and red pepper sounds strange....Pepsi does have big hit pop stars in their adverts....only more reason to hate them I guess.
I do enjoy rootbeer though...never gets old even when I wasn't drinking much pop, root beer still appealed to me....henry weinhards and ibc...and even a&w is good stuff.
I also like hansens....thats not really pop though...I mean it is...but its not all mutated like most pops(well its less mutated)
<strong>Burger King, KFC, Taco Bell, etc. are no longer owned by PepsiCo. And outside the US, 7UP is considered a Pepsi-Cola brand. They even had Star Wars characters on the cans outside the US when Episode 1 was being marketed to death.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm sure you're right ... soft-drink ownership rights outside the U.S. are so byzantine I can't keep track anymore. Here in the U.S. antitrust rules prevent the Big Two from buying the smaller brands. In the mid-'80s Pepsi tried to buy 7UP and Coke tried to buy Dr Pepper. The FTC blocked both deals and Dr Pepper merged with 7UP instead.
as for Dr. Pepper... in the supermaket I work at, Dr. Pepper comes from the Coke distros... there IS a CD distro that has sunkist, A&W etc... and a Pepsi distro that has 7up, brisk, and well, pepsi... (and others, im not going to list very soda we sell...)
intrestingly enoug i have not seen pepsi blue, or Dr. pepper red... Code red didnt sell well so we dont carry it, and mountain dew is a slow seller as well...
Vanilla coke is the only "new" drink that is carried, the "twists" dont sell either.... go figure...
I hate soda anyways... the store sellls it at cost, it is heavy to carry and is a waste of space and money (in terms of running a supermarket and nutritional value...) hell the only reason we sell it is to get people into the store... the scarry part is that it is cheaer to buy soda then it is to buy water..... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
<strong>When did this Red Fusion happen? I like Dr. Pepper but never heard of this.</strong><hr></blockquote>
ECK! It's like strawberry soda. Bleh!
i used to not know the difference. unfortunately i grew up and can't stand the taste of diet coke. when i go to a coke restaurant i order sprite.
i don't liek diet pepsi twist. why would i? it tastes bad. i also don't like vanilla so vanilla coke is out of the question.
i tried red fusion the other day and to me it tasted exactly like dr pepper. so basically it was gross. am i starting to sound picky? hah.
i've never heard of this pepsi blue but from these posts it sounds disguisting.
the only interesting fact i know about either company is that way back int he day coke had the chance to buy out pepsi and they didnt because they didn't see them as competition. i heard that on the book on tape version of For God, Country, and Coca-Cola. i was forced to listen to that book in my friends car all the way to the mall of america. ehhh long trip for a high schooler.
<strong>Coke was the original just like apple, but now isnt as popular. Pepsi is the cheap immitator, just like microsoft and all the teeny-boppers make it popular... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Whatever...more like Coke is the status quo. When people order a cola at a restaurant, most likely they ask for a Coke. How many countless people have passed by my dorm room and asked "Hey, is that Mac Windows?"
Coke was first sold in 1886. Pepsi appeared in 1898. So what? The first Apple computer came after many other PCs before it.
<strong>I'm sure it's better than Vanilla Coke. That stuff is terrible. It has just enough vanilla in it that it makes it taste weird, but not really enough to have its own taste.
But I don't like pop too much anyway, so why am I talking?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree, I like Cherry Coke, but Vanilla Coke is nasty.