Asteroid on its way?

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  • Reply 41 of 55
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    the damage isnt linear to size. a 2 km asteroid would not make 1/5th the damage of a 10 km asteroid. this asteroid is nothing like what took out the dinosaurs.

    besides, the odds of it actually hitting something other than water is about 1/1,000,000,000.

    no worries... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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  • Reply 42 of 55
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    [quote]Originally posted by _ alliance _:



    besides, the odds of it actually hitting something other than water is about 1/1,000,000,000.

    no worries...<hr></blockquote>





    Wait a minute...the earth's surface is something like 70% water (give or take a few percentage points). Where then do you get the odds of hitting land to be 1 in a billion? I'm no calculus wizard but seems you're overstating things a tiny bit.



    Either way, a water impact could cause a global catastrophe just the same as hitting land - just not as much debris would be sent into the atmosphere.
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  • Reply 43 of 55
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    [quote]Originally posted by Moogs:

    <strong>





    Wait a minute...the earth's surface is something like 70% water (give or take a few percentage points). Where then do you get the odds of hitting land to be 1 in a billion? I'm no calculus wizard but seems you're overstating things a tiny bit.



    Either way, a water impact could cause a global catastrophe just the same as hitting land - just not as much debris would be sent into the atmosphere.</strong><hr></blockquote>





    odds of it hitting earth to begin w/ = 1/250,000

    odds of it hitting land = 1/4

    multiply together = 1/1,000,000



    if i put a billion originally, it was a mistake, sry.

    is 1 in a million so much more than 1 in a billion...?

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  • Reply 44 of 55
    snofsnof Posts: 98member
    <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/07/29/asteroid.threat.ap/index.html"; target="_blank">Looks like we don't need to worry.</a>



    Damn, there go all my great pre-apocalypse plans.
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  • Reply 45 of 55
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    alliance - I see what you did now. I thought you were saying under the precondition that a 2km asteroid was going to hit the earth, there was only a 1 in a Billion shot it would hit land.



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  • Reply 46 of 55
    rodukroduk Posts: 706member
    [quote]Originally posted by _ alliance _:

    <strong>people, its only 2 km wide.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'd imagine the speed at which its travelling is more important than its size, in terms of the damage likely to be caused.
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  • Reply 47 of 55
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Exactly.
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  • Reply 48 of 55
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Good point, but how much of that is dependant upon gravity / friction with the outer atmosphere? Terminal Velocity anyone?
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  • Reply 49 of 55
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    that article stated that it would effect earth on a "continental level," not at the whole planet level, so i was right on that aspect. its too small to destroy the whole planet. yes, maybe a third or even half, will be left in ruins, but the human race will survive. that was my biggest point. you people act like it would have been the end of the world. yes, it would have changed everything, but there would have been ample opportunity to start over...
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  • Reply 50 of 55
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    If 2 airplanes hitting the WTC can change the world imagine a 2km rock hitting, oh, say China.
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  • Reply 51 of 55
    _ alliance __ alliance _ Posts: 2,070member
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>If 2 airplanes hitting the WTC can change the world imagine a 2km rock hitting, oh, say China.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    i never said it wouldnt "change" the world, just not "destroy" it. please, would u people actually read what i write before criticizing it...?
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  • Reply 52 of 55
    patchoulipatchouli Posts: 402member
    <a href="http://space.com/scienceastronomy/asteroid_scare_020729-1.html"; target="_blank">This article pretty much puts things in order.</a>
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  • Reply 53 of 55
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
    Kinetic energy = 0.5*mass*velocity*velocity



    57Km/s = 57,000 m/s



    For some rough figures, let us assume said asteroid is roughly rectangular: 2Km long and a 400m by 400m cross-section:



    volume in m^3 = 2000*400*400

    = 320,000,000 m^3



    I'm not a geologist, so I'll assume that this thing's density is between metal and rock, about 4000Kg/m^3:



    mass = 320,000,000*4,000

    = 1,280,000,000,000 Kg



    Therefore the approximate kinetic energy is:

    0.5*1,280,000,000,000*57,000*57,000

    = 2,079,360,000,000,000,000,000 joules

    = 2.079*10^21 joules



    One megaton of TNT is 4*10^9 joules:



    2.079*10^21/4*10^9

    = 519,840,000,000 Mtonnes :eek:



    This seems very high. Is 57Km/s correct? I imagine that most of this energy would be used to heat the atmosphere/asteroid/ocean before a "solid" collision, so the velocity would drop considerably in a short time.
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  • Reply 54 of 55
    rodukroduk Posts: 706member
    Well, atleast the above equation seems to prove that velocity is more important than mass in terms of the energy likely to be released. I didn't think that TNT was a very efficient explosive in todays terms, so perhaps that accounts for the high figure.
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  • Reply 55 of 55
    What? I only have 14 more years to live? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
    Looks like you made it longer than expected!
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