The four SATA 2 ports on ALL Sandy Bridge chipsets are affected.
The two SATA 3 ports however are not affected.
I thought Intel was not including SATA3 support standard on the boards with Sandy Bridge. They were waiting for Ivy Bridge. Did I miss that change or are we just speaking of the way OEMs have been adding SATA3 after the fact for a whole year+ already and continue to do it?
I thought Intel was not including SATA3 support standard on the boards with Sandy Bridge. They were waiting for Ivy Bridge. Did I miss that change or are we just speaking of the way OEMs have been adding SATA3 after the fact for a whole year+ already and continue to do it?
What this article doesn't mention, for some reason, is that Intel stated that there no concern for data loss, just a slowing down of SATA based devices.
Like all I/O devices, ala hard drives, DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.
IM just Wondering if updates to Appmes laptop line are only going to cone once a year...
I get the feeling that EVERYTHING from Apple is only going to get annual updates from now on. The Macs will be out 30-60 days after Intel hits full volume on their new chips and they'll move the release dates for iPhones, iPads, iPods and software around to make it look like there's always something new.
Except for the MacBook Air and usual iPod event September 1 there hasn't been a hardware update since July 27. Given that the MacBook, MBPro and iMac are now delayed until at least April, the month predicted to see the iPad 2, I think we can safely say we're in the middle of the longest hardware drought since SJ returned to Apple.
Personally I'm going to wait another year for an Ivy Bridge iMac and a handheld of some sort. By 2012 the iPod touch might have a 5-6" big brother with 3G capability.
LOLOL! Oh, man! Did you just come up with that?! It's hilarious! It's like, you took something said pertaining to a different overblown issue, and applied it to another issue...sarcastically! Can I have permission to use that as a forum signature? I'll make sure to cite you as the source, since I want to make absolutely sure you get credit for starting what will no doubt be a hilarious trend. Well played, sir...well played.
Interesting that nobody is talking about the 24p video out bug that means this is useless for any home theater use... Useless? Yes, because while this wonderful new design does awesome transcoding, truly awesome ... It only works if you don't install a video card however if you don't install a proper video card you'll get these nasty hitches on your screen when you attempt to play a 24p movie.
The numbers escape me ATM however what it comes down to is 24p video isn't exactly 24 frames per second on NTSC based systems... It's more like 23.976 when intel does it's rounding up to 24 it's quite noticeable.
So in short, you can either have 'fixed' 24p output via a 3rd party video card thus disabling the quick transcoding.... OR ... You can have quick transcoding with wonky movie playback.
Oh and intel has indicated this issue will not be fixed until a followup chip comes out in late 2012 or 2013.
One bit of hope has popped up that seems to allow the fast transcoding WHILE a 3rd party video card is installed... I'm thinking this will only be made available to Windows users... This 'fix' was not created by intel but some 3rd party software developer.
Interesting that nobody is talking about the 24p video out bug that means this is useless for any home theater use... Useless? Yes, because while this wonderful new design does awesome transcoding, truly awesome ... It only works if you don't install a video card however if you don't install a proper video card you'll get these nasty hitches on your screen when you attempt to play a 24p movie.
The numbers escape me ATM however what it comes down to is 24p video isn't exactly 24 frames per second on NTSC based systems... It's more like 23.976 when intel does it's rounding up to 24 it's quite noticeable.
So in short, you can either have 'fixed' 24p output via a 3rd party video card thus disabling the quick transcoding.... OR ... You can have quick transcoding with wonky movie playback.
Oh and intel has indicated this issue will not be fixed until a followup chip comes out in late 2012 or 2013.
One bit of hope has popped up that seems to allow the fast transcoding WHILE a 3rd party video card is installed... I'm thinking this will only be made available to Windows users... This 'fix' was not created by intel but some 3rd party software developer.
Go AMD.
AMD stock is up 4.54% after the news was released regarding Intel.
in unrelated news, Apple's new MacBook line will be powered by the 2.6GHz quad core A6 chip.
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Originally Posted by msantti
Frankly, this is not as silly as it may sound.
If he means the Toshiba Tecra A6, it is silly.
If he means the next ARM Cortex A8, it is also silly. MacOS would need to be program for ANOTHER transition. If MB use iOS and A8, that will get more battery life. But Apple said touch is not good for laptops and desktops.
LOLOL! Oh, man! Did you just come up with that?! It's hilarious! It's like, you took something said pertaining to a different overblown issue, and applied it to another issue...sarcastically! Can I have permission to use that as a forum signature? I'll make sure to cite you as the source, since I want to make absolutely sure you get credit for starting what will no doubt be a hilarious trend. Well played, sir...well played.
Quite frankly, I doubt that this will affect the MacBook Pro launches at all. Why? SATA 3.
The problem with these chipsets resides in the SATA 2 (3GB/s) ports. Intel has specifically stated that there are no problems with the SATA 3 ports, of which there are 2 on the chipset. How many SATA devices are there on a MacBook Pro? 2, the HDD and the ODD. Do the math.
Heck, Apple may be able to get a deal on slightly defective PCH chips.
This saddens meas I was thinking A Sandy Bridge Mini would be a fantastic HTPC.
Hopefully the Apple blogs will pick up on this. I still can see another Core 2 Mini coming or Apple switching to AMD. I would think that Apple would realize this is a common use for the Mini.
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Originally Posted by DaveGee
Interesting that nobody is talking about the 24p video out bug that means this is useless for any home theater use... Useless? Yes, because while this wonderful new design does awesome transcoding, truly awesome ... It only works if you don't install a video card however if you don't install a proper video card you'll get these nasty hitches on your screen when you attempt to play a 24p movie.
The numbers escape me ATM however what it comes down to is 24p video isn't exactly 24 frames per second on NTSC based systems... It's more like 23.976 when intel does it's rounding up to 24 it's quite noticeable.
So in short, you can either have 'fixed' 24p output via a 3rd party video card thus disabling the quick transcoding.... OR ... You can have quick transcoding with wonky movie playback.
Oh and intel has indicated this issue will not be fixed until a followup chip comes out in late 2012 or 2013.
One bit of hope has popped up that seems to allow the fast transcoding WHILE a 3rd party video card is installed... I'm thinking this will only be made available to Windows users... This 'fix' was not created by intel but some 3rd party software developer.
"Since this issue affected some of the chipset units shipped and produced in the fourth quarter of 2010, the company will take a charge against cost of goods sold, which is expected to reduce the fourth quarter gross margin percentage by approximately 4 percentage points from the previously reported 67.5 percent," Intel said.
The quad-core late 2009 iMac was the first generation of iMacs to use the Core i5 and Core i7 chipsets. Then came the quad-core mid-2010 iMac which uses the second generation of Core i5 and Core i7 chipsets.
Are you really, really sure that the current quad-core iMac is not affected, especially the models manufactured and sold during the months of November 2010 and December 2010?
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The four SATA 2 ports on ALL Sandy Bridge chipsets are affected.
The two SATA 3 ports however are not affected.
I thought Intel was not including SATA3 support standard on the boards with Sandy Bridge. They were waiting for Ivy Bridge. Did I miss that change or are we just speaking of the way OEMs have been adding SATA3 after the fact for a whole year+ already and continue to do it?
I thought Intel was not including SATA3 support standard on the boards with Sandy Bridge. They were waiting for Ivy Bridge. Did I miss that change or are we just speaking of the way OEMs have been adding SATA3 after the fact for a whole year+ already and continue to do it?
They're not supporting USB 3 until then.
What this article doesn't mention, for some reason, is that Intel stated that there no concern for data loss, just a slowing down of SATA based devices.
Like all I/O devices, ala hard drives, DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.
in unrelated news, Apple's new MacBook line will be powered by the 2.6GHz quad core A6 chip.
Frankly, this is not as silly as it may sound.
Like all I/O devices, ala hard drives, DVD, Blu-Ray, etc.
Rather it slow down than lose data.
IM just Wondering if updates to Appmes laptop line are only going to cone once a year...
I get the feeling that EVERYTHING from Apple is only going to get annual updates from now on. The Macs will be out 30-60 days after Intel hits full volume on their new chips and they'll move the release dates for iPhones, iPads, iPods and software around to make it look like there's always something new.
Except for the MacBook Air and usual iPod event September 1 there hasn't been a hardware update since July 27. Given that the MacBook, MBPro and iMac are now delayed until at least April, the month predicted to see the iPad 2, I think we can safely say we're in the middle of the longest hardware drought since SJ returned to Apple.
Personally I'm going to wait another year for an Ivy Bridge iMac and a handheld of some sort. By 2012 the iPod touch might have a 5-6" big brother with 3G capability.
SATA has become just toooo fast.
This new feature slowly nurses you to more reasonable speeds.
LOLOL! Oh, man! Did you just come up with that?! It's hilarious! It's like, you took something said pertaining to a different overblown issue, and applied it to another issue...sarcastically! Can I have permission to use that as a forum signature? I'll make sure to cite you as the source, since I want to make absolutely sure you get credit for starting what will no doubt be a hilarious trend. Well played, sir...well played.
Oh geez.
It was a joke, I laughed, so lighten up
This isn't even new news. It was reported some time ago.
Um, it's new, today.
The numbers escape me ATM however what it comes down to is 24p video isn't exactly 24 frames per second on NTSC based systems... It's more like 23.976 when intel does it's rounding up to 24 it's quite noticeable.
So in short, you can either have 'fixed' 24p output via a 3rd party video card thus disabling the quick transcoding.... OR ... You can have quick transcoding with wonky movie playback.
Oh and intel has indicated this issue will not be fixed until a followup chip comes out in late 2012 or 2013.
One bit of hope has popped up that seems to allow the fast transcoding WHILE a 3rd party video card is installed... I'm thinking this will only be made available to Windows users... This 'fix' was not created by intel but some 3rd party software developer.
Rather it slow down than lose data.
Tell that to Data Centers.
Interesting that nobody is talking about the 24p video out bug that means this is useless for any home theater use... Useless? Yes, because while this wonderful new design does awesome transcoding, truly awesome ... It only works if you don't install a video card however if you don't install a proper video card you'll get these nasty hitches on your screen when you attempt to play a 24p movie.
The numbers escape me ATM however what it comes down to is 24p video isn't exactly 24 frames per second on NTSC based systems... It's more like 23.976 when intel does it's rounding up to 24 it's quite noticeable.
So in short, you can either have 'fixed' 24p output via a 3rd party video card thus disabling the quick transcoding.... OR ... You can have quick transcoding with wonky movie playback.
Oh and intel has indicated this issue will not be fixed until a followup chip comes out in late 2012 or 2013.
One bit of hope has popped up that seems to allow the fast transcoding WHILE a 3rd party video card is installed... I'm thinking this will only be made available to Windows users... This 'fix' was not created by intel but some 3rd party software developer.
Go AMD.
AMD stock is up 4.54% after the news was released regarding Intel.
in unrelated news, Apple's new MacBook line will be powered by the 2.6GHz quad core A6 chip.
Frankly, this is not as silly as it may sound.
If he means the Toshiba Tecra A6, it is silly.
If he means the next ARM Cortex A8, it is also silly. MacOS would need to be program for ANOTHER transition. If MB use iOS and A8, that will get more battery life. But Apple said touch is not good for laptops and desktops.
LOLOL! Oh, man! Did you just come up with that?! It's hilarious! It's like, you took something said pertaining to a different overblown issue, and applied it to another issue...sarcastically! Can I have permission to use that as a forum signature? I'll make sure to cite you as the source, since I want to make absolutely sure you get credit for starting what will no doubt be a hilarious trend. Well played, sir...well played.
The problem with these chipsets resides in the SATA 2 (3GB/s) ports. Intel has specifically stated that there are no problems with the SATA 3 ports, of which there are 2 on the chipset. How many SATA devices are there on a MacBook Pro? 2, the HDD and the ODD. Do the math.
Heck, Apple may be able to get a deal on slightly defective PCH chips.
Hopefully the Apple blogs will pick up on this. I still can see another Core 2 Mini coming or Apple switching to AMD. I would think that Apple would realize this is a common use for the Mini.
Interesting that nobody is talking about the 24p video out bug that means this is useless for any home theater use... Useless? Yes, because while this wonderful new design does awesome transcoding, truly awesome ... It only works if you don't install a video card however if you don't install a proper video card you'll get these nasty hitches on your screen when you attempt to play a 24p movie.
The numbers escape me ATM however what it comes down to is 24p video isn't exactly 24 frames per second on NTSC based systems... It's more like 23.976 when intel does it's rounding up to 24 it's quite noticeable.
So in short, you can either have 'fixed' 24p output via a 3rd party video card thus disabling the quick transcoding.... OR ... You can have quick transcoding with wonky movie playback.
Oh and intel has indicated this issue will not be fixed until a followup chip comes out in late 2012 or 2013.
One bit of hope has popped up that seems to allow the fast transcoding WHILE a 3rd party video card is installed... I'm thinking this will only be made available to Windows users... This 'fix' was not created by intel but some 3rd party software developer.
"Since this issue affected some of the chipset units shipped and produced in the fourth quarter of 2010, the company will take a charge against cost of goods sold, which is expected to reduce the fourth quarter gross margin percentage by approximately 4 percentage points from the previously reported 67.5 percent," Intel said.
The quad-core late 2009 iMac was the first generation of iMacs to use the Core i5 and Core i7 chipsets. Then came the quad-core mid-2010 iMac which uses the second generation of Core i5 and Core i7 chipsets.
Are you really, really sure that the current quad-core iMac is not affected, especially the models manufactured and sold during the months of November 2010 and December 2010?